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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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I wasn't aware of this "Insurrection Act" before the last week. Its been used 19 times in the past by 11 president's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807

H W Bush used it TWICE. How was Trump merely threatening to use it worse than other presidents using it?
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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:40 am Yeah...just like economics...because there’s nothing in between total statist tyranny and reasonable laws. All or nothing baby!
Or leadership. Make a couple (thousand) boneheaded tweets and all of a sudden you're a fascist.

Hyperbole is a two way street in today's society. Why do you call the right out on theirs and rationalize the left's?

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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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Gil Dobie wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:25 pm The meat of it except the beginning and end:
I see a lot of apples and oranges comparisons in the article. George Floyd was killed after trying to pass a counterfeit $20 bill, What are the reason's for the police contacts of each of the unarmed deaths. Poverty also has a lot to do with Blacks being in a higher poverty, higher crime area. 20% of the black population lives in poverty, While 8.7% of whites.

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You are touching on something that frequently gets left out of police statistics - that is what demographics are the biggest consumers of police services -

Minorities and the poor consume around 70% of all police services. That is based on routine calls for service and 911.

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I remember one time I had a loud noise call in a Section 8 housing project called Bayside Manor late at night. Some dude was in the parking lot blasting his car stereo and the residents were calling in on him. I rolled up and asked him to switch it off. As I was talking to him, he asked me if “this is some kind of profiling”.. I told him that if he could point out a white guy for me in Bayside at 1230 am I’d be happy to go check him out. We both laughed


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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:20 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Or leadership. Make a couple (thousand) boneheaded tweets and all of a sudden you're a fascist.

Hyperbole is a two way street in today's society. Why do you call the right out on theirs and rationalize the left's?

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You ask as though being liberal is the same as being “left” in your preconceived tribalistic notions of us vs them.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:57 pm
CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:20 pm
You ask him this as if he is standing outside the left, looking in


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You ask as though being liberal is the same as being “left” in your preconceived tribalistic notions of us vs them.
in a world where nothing makes sense... all we've got left is us vs. them

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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:20 pm You ask him this as if he is standing outside the left, looking in


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You ask as though being liberal is the same as being “left” in your preconceived tribalistic notions of us vs them.
There are clear lines between the modern day American Left and American Right.

88’s observation is correct. You nearly always defend one of them while claiming to be neither.

Your constant word salad about blurred lines notwithstanding


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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:20 pm
kalm wrote:
You ask as though being liberal is the same as being “left” in your preconceived tribalistic notions of us vs them.
There are clear lines between the modern day American Left and American Right.

88’s observation is correct. You nearly always defend one of them while claiming to be neither.

Your constant word salad about blurred lines notwithstanding


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And you do the same from the other side the difference being I can be honest about it...so here we are. :thumb:
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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:20 pm There are clear lines between the modern day American Left and American Right.

88’s observation is correct. You nearly always defend one of them while claiming to be neither.

Your constant word salad about blurred lines notwithstanding


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And you do the same from the other side the difference being I can be honest about it...so here we are. :thumb:
I’ve never pretended to be anything I’m not. I’m conservative. 88 makes the same observation I’ve made numerous times.

You sure do quack like a duck


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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:06 pm
kalm wrote:
And you do the same from the other side the difference being I can be honest about it...so here we are. :thumb:
I’ve never pretended to be anything I’m not. I’m conservative. 88 makes the same observation I’ve made numerous times.

You sure do quack like a duck


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I quack like an open minded duck. AKA liberal.
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This one is really fucking hard to justify...

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kalm wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:36 pm This one is really fucking hard to justify...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfe ... man-pushed
No worries. That old dude is white.
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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:06 pm I’ve never pretended to be anything I’m not. I’m conservative. 88 makes the same observation I’ve made numerous times.

You sure do quack like a duck


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I feel sorry for anyone who self identifies as conservative.

I quack like an open minded duck. AKA liberal.
If I said classical liberal would that unbind your panties?


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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:26 pm
kalm wrote:
I feel sorry for anyone who self identifies as conservative.

I quack like an open minded duck. AKA liberal.
If I said classical liberal would that unbind your panties?


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I enjoy your thoughts and appreciate classical liberalism. I’m just not all that obsessed with trying to define you and simply providing tit for tat.

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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:04 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:36 pm This one is really fucking hard to justify...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfe ... man-pushed
No worries. That old dude is white.
Yep. Must have been 2 liberal cops, since liberals hate old white males..
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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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BDKJMU wrote:I wasn't aware of this "Insurrection Act" before the last week. Its been used 19 times in the past by 11 president's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807

H W Bush used it TWICE. How was Trump merely threatening to use it worse than other presidents using it?
Sometimes the best deterrent to insurrection is to let one run its course

And on that note....

Let’s see, today is a Friday, so I guess we’re on “cops shouldn’t have guns” until tomorrow, when we’ll be back to “only cops should have guns”


https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/ ... need-guns/


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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:20 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:04 pm

No worries. That old dude is white.
Yep. Must have been 2 liberal cops, since liberals hate old white males..
You two just let me know when that cross you’re bearing gets to heavy and I’ll help ya out with it.

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You know you’ve arrived as a nation when you’ve unleashed your own Stasi. But never worry, the Democrats are putting forth a bill!

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Defense plan for a couple officers from today's Strib.

“At all times Mr. Kueng and Mr. Lane turned their attention to that 19-year veteran,” Plunkett said. “[Kueng] was trying — they were trying to communicate that this situation needs to change direction.”

Charging documents show that Lane asked twice if they should roll Floyd onto his side and was rebuffed by Chauvin. Kueng took Floyd’s pulse and told his colleagues, “I couldn’t find one,” according to the criminal complaint.

Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd’s neck for about two minutes after Kueng’s remarks, the charges state.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:20 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:04 pm

No worries. That old dude is white.
Yep. Must have been 2 liberal cops, since liberals hate old white males..
I'm proud that you've taken the first step...
now just imagine that all the cops are liberals and all the protesters are conservatives and rewatch the events

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"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
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"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/612682/

If I were a neonazi and wanted to screw up minority communities as much as possible with minimal effect to white neighborhoods, I'd advocate what these leftists are advocating.

How can people watch how people behave when they know the police are occupied and think these inner city places would be better off with fewer or no cops? : :dunce:
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Chizzang wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:56 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:20 pm
Yep. Must have been 2 liberal cops, since liberals hate old white males..
I'm proud that you've taken the first step...
now just imagine that all the cops are liberals and all the protesters are conservatives and rewatch the events

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:51 am
Well they should be charged with assault, not “suspended”.

These cops are out there embarrassing themselves. :coffee: :coffee:
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