Coronavirus COVID-19

[GannonFan]

Wuhan is doing great! Flattened the curve. Beijing is entering lockdown.

We are a republic of states.

If you drill down you get to this page where you can go by state and there are several other options.

Covid Link

Nice link, I like it.

With that said, and just looking at a few (national as well as by states) it seems to paint a pretty good picture for the next few months. There's a tick up for everyone around Sep 1 and going forward from there, but that would seem to be a seasonal projection that may or may not be real. On the whole, we look really good from a hospitalization standpoint, meaning that we can house and treat those that do need that level of care should they get the virus. Couple that with the data that upwards to 50% of COVID deaths so far in the US have been in nursing homes and similar facilities, and that going forward we should be better at protecting those places, and it looks manageable going forward. Still way too many lives lost, but it looks better than we've been.

[kalm]

Kalm, how does it feel to have your own schtick used against you?

He really is taking a foot to the ball in this thread.

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Think of me as Ferris Bueller in the restaurant scene. If I’m taken down...it won’t be by the likes of him.

[Skjellyfetti]

Looks like Houston is around 75% capacity

An increasing number of people in Texas and Florida are being admitted to the hospital because of Covid-19, adding to concern that some of the most populous U.S. states are facing a new wave of illness after lifting lockdown orders.

Coastal states hit by the pandemic early are emerging from months of quarantine having largely flattened the curve of infection, but others whose governors resisted stringent measures are confronting daunting numbers. New cases are ticking up in more than 20 states, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

On Tuesday, Texas posted an 8.3% rise in hospitalizations to a record 2,518, the biggest daily increase since June 4, according to the state health department. The rolling seven-day average climbed to a record 2,243.

In Florida, cumulative hospitalizations rose by 191 to 12,206. On the seven-day basis, they reached 1,021, the highest since May 25.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott scheduled a media briefing to discuss hospital capacity at 1 p.m. central time. In the Houston area, there were 795 patients hospitalized and 247 intensive-care units beds available.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -reopening

[GannonFan]

Looks like Houston is around 75% capacity

An increasing number of people in Texas and Florida are being admitted to the hospital because of Covid-19, adding to concern that some of the most populous U.S. states are facing a new wave of illness after lifting lockdown orders.

Coastal states hit by the pandemic early are emerging from months of quarantine having largely flattened the curve of infection, but others whose governors resisted stringent measures are confronting daunting numbers. New cases are ticking up in more than 20 states, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

On Tuesday, Texas posted an 8.3% rise in hospitalizations to a record 2,518, the biggest daily increase since June 4, according to the state health department. The rolling seven-day average climbed to a record 2,243.

In Florida, cumulative hospitalizations rose by 191 to 12,206. On the seven-day basis, they reached 1,021, the highest since May 25.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott scheduled a media briefing to discuss hospital capacity at 1 p.m. central time. In the Houston area, there were 795 patients hospitalized and 247 intensive-care units beds available.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -reopening

Then something's wrong with Gil's link - granted, just looking at the state of Texas as opposed to drilling down to the city level, but on Gil's link they aren't reporting anything close to 75% capacity, actually just a tenth of that, and that's even with the uncertainty interval being factored in.

[CAA Flagship]

If you drill down you get to this page where you can go by state and there are several other options.

Covid Link

Nice link, I like it.

With that said, and just looking at a few (national as well as by states) it seems to paint a pretty good picture for the next few months. There's a tick up for everyone around Sep 1 and going forward from there, but that would seem to be a seasonal projection that may or may not be real. On the whole, we look really good from a hospitalization standpoint, meaning that we can house and treat those that do need that level of care should they get the virus. Couple that with the data that upwards to 50% of COVID deaths so far in the US have been in nursing homes and similar facilities, and that going forward we should be better at protecting those places, and it looks manageable going forward. Still way too many lives lost, but it looks better than we've been.

Probably "seasonal" in a back to school sense, not necessarily in a weather related sense.

[UNI88]

He really is taking a foot to the ball in this thread.

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Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery so I’m enjoying it. I’ll give Flaggy an E for effort.

Think of me as Ferris Bueller in the restaurant scene. If I’m taken down...it won’t be by the likes of him.

I think you're more Neidermeyer and Flaggy is Otter from Animal House ...

[CAA Flagship]

Looks like Houston is around 75% capacity

An increasing number of people in Texas and Florida are being admitted to the hospital because of Covid-19, adding to concern that some of the most populous U.S. states are facing a new wave of illness after lifting lockdown orders.

Coastal states hit by the pandemic early are emerging from months of quarantine having largely flattened the curve of infection, but others whose governors resisted stringent measures are confronting daunting numbers. New cases are ticking up in more than 20 states, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

On Tuesday, Texas posted an 8.3% rise in hospitalizations to a record 2,518, the biggest daily increase since June 4, according to the state health department. The rolling seven-day average climbed to a record 2,243.

In Florida, cumulative hospitalizations rose by 191 to 12,206. On the seven-day basis, they reached 1,021, the highest since May 25.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott scheduled a media briefing to discuss hospital capacity at 1 p.m. central time. In the Houston area, there were 795 patients hospitalized and 247 intensive-care units beds available.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -reopening

Not to birth a conspiracy here, but I wonder if the admissions criteria has changed with beds available (and elective surgeries still slow). Admitting patients would be a good way to quarantine them for a while and/or have them participate in drug trials.

[CAA Flagship]

He really is taking a foot to the ball in this thread.

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Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery so I’m enjoying it. I’ll give Flaggy an E for effort.

Think of me as Ferris Bueller in the restaurant scene. If I’m taken down...it won’t be by the likes of him.

E for effort? It's more like a W.

[kalm]

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery so I’m enjoying it. I’ll give Flaggy an E for effort.

Think of me as Ferris Bueller in the restaurant scene. If I’m taken down...it won’t be by the likes of him.

I think you're more Neidermeyer and Flaggy is Otter from Animal House ...

Whatev’s, Flounder.

[UNI88]

I think you're more Neidermeyer and Flaggy is Otter from Animal House ...

Whatev’s, Flounder.

Why Flounder?

[kalm]

To follow up on Gil’s Fargo bar post...

Rollercoaster and it’s going to be like this for a year.

“One bar on Jacksonville Beach said on Sunday that it needed to close because customers had been who were Covid-19 positive.

“Our establishment has become aware of positive tests for COVID-19 and have visited our business,” wrote Wreck Tiki Lounge owner Fernando Meza on Facebook, local reports said. “We will be closed the next few days to sanitize the bar and send our staff to get tested.”

Another business in the area, Lynch’s Irish Pub, also announced its closure this weekend after 15 people contracted Covid-19 there.

A woman among those infected told Action News Jax on Monday that all 15, who were friends, had tested positive following a 6 June gathering at the pub”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 68631.html

[HI54UNI]

Whatev’s, Flounder.

Why Flounder?

[UNI88]

Why Flounder?

Thanks Fiver.

I threw that meatball out there and Kalm left it hanging. He was probably too busy staring at some young kayaker in the stands wearing short shorts to notice.

[kalm]

Thanks Fiver.

I threw that meatball out there and Kalm left it hanging. He was probably too busy staring at some young kayaker in the stands wearing short shorts to notice.

I fell asleep watching a CWU professor’s lecture on Spokane area geology.

(You Richard).

[JohnStOnge]

Ok as of yesterday at 4:30 pm CDC had the number of COVID-19 deaths in the United States at 116,140. So the United States death count has now surpassed the ESTIMATED death toll of 116,000 for the 116,000 for the 1957 Asian flu. That means that the absolute number of deaths in the United States for this pandemic is not very definitely higher than the absolute number for any pandemic since 1918.

The per capita death count position remains up in the air. The number of deaths necessary to equal to Hong Kong flu death toll in per capita terms is about 164,000 and that necessary to equal the Asian flu death toll in per capita terms is about 221,000.

Right now the point estimate of the IHME model for COVID-19 deaths by October 1 is about 201,000. If you're wondering, the first run of that model on March 25 point estimate for today was 80,306. 116,000 is within that first run's upper limit of uncertainty (159,440). But the point estimate was lower than where we are now. The upper limit of uncertainty for October 1 is now 269,395.

I think it's a pretty good bet that when all is said and done this is clearly going to be the most deadly pandemic for the United States since the Spanish Flu in both absolute and per capita terms.

[CID1990]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

[JohnStOnge]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

Damn. I completely agree with that.

[kalm]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

Fuck dude. This is so beautifully stated.

[SDHornet]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

America!!! Fuck yeah!!!

If you are under the age of 50 and have no immune system issues, you'll only have like a 98.9% chance of surviving the Chinese Flu if you catch it.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

He really is taking a foot to the ball in this thread.

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Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery so I’m enjoying it. I’ll give Flaggy an E for effort.

Think of me as Ferris Bueller in the restaurant scene. If I’m taken down...it won’t be by the likes of him.

Don't cry rat

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[CID1990]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

America!!! Fuck yeah!!!

If you are under the age of 50 and have no immune system issues, you'll only have like a 98.9% chance of surviving the Chinese Flu if you catch it.

That’s not the point, SD. The point is to avoid proliferation so those who are vulnerable are not at continual risk. You may not be sick but you are spreading it around.

And again, we’re talking about wearing masks, cleaning your dick beaters, and staying 6 feet away from people - and then we go back to normal. And its just basic consideration.

I know it works because I’ve seen it first hand.


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[Ibanez]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

Well said. The wearing of a mask has become us vs hem instead of some patriotic duty to help your fellow man. We don't just look petulant and disrespectful - we are. We've, once again, confirmed everyone's worst suspicions about ourselves.

[Ibanez]

America!!! Fuck yeah!!!

If you are under the age of 50 and have no immune system issues, you'll only have like a 98.9% chance of surviving the Chinese Flu if you catch it.

That’s not the point, SD. The point is to avoid proliferation so those who are vulnerable are not at continual risk. You may not be sick but you are spreading it around.

And again, we’re talking about wearing masks, cleaning your dick beaters, and staying 6 feet away from people - and then we go back to normal. And its just basic consideration.

I know it works because I’ve seen it first hand.


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How dare you expect Americans to 1) give two shits for others and; 2) practice good hygiene!? You can't make me be sanitary!

[kalm]

Well, I’m leaving Thailand in 2 weeks.

Thailand was the first country outside China to have the virus. Thailand’s tourist economy is hugely dependent on the Chinese, and at the time of the outbreak there were hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here.

Social distancing and mask wearing went into effect immediately, along with shutting down nonessential businesses.

Thailand stopped the virus in its tracks. In a country of 70 million, we have had less than 3000 total cases. We have less than 60 deaths. Initially, the curve here was steepening and we even had a couple cases at the embassy. Now, ALL of the active cases are with Thais returning home from abroad, and all people who arrive in country are immediately quarantined.

Thailand now has zero community spread. Literally all of the 100 or so active cases are in quarantine. Everything pretty much reopened 2-3 weeks ago, with distancing and mask rules in place. Asians are generally considerate so this is not a huge deal. No large gatherings or events.

Back in NC, where my dad is in hospice care and my elderly mother is taking care of him, the Altamahaw race track had a couple big events over the last week or so. Nobody distancing, few masks to be seen, it is like nobody gives a damn.

It is surreal to be leaving an Asian country where I have no concern about this virus, and coming back to America where at least 50% of the population seems to have lost its fucking mind. 90% of beating this thing is simply taking personal precautions... distancing, hygiene, masks. That’s it. And it is just simple consideration for your fellow citizens who are more vulnerable. Do those things, and the infection rate eventually drops off to where things can reopen. Thailand has already reopened and believe me when I say, Thailand is a backwards ass country in many respects. But they have consideration for others, particularly their elders, and social distancing was seen as a filial, patriotic duty.

From a distance, we Americans look petulant and disrespectful with no sense of duty, and infection rates reflect that.

America!!! Fuck yeah!!!

If you are under the age of 50 and have no immune system issues, you'll only have like a 98.9% chance of surviving the Chinese Flu if you catch it.

And 28 days of recovery on average if you become symptomatic plus potential long term health issues.

[kalm]

Follow up from a couple of weeks ago...

Jackson Hospital pulmonologist William Saliski cleared his throat as he started describing the dire situation created by the coronavirus pandemic in Montgomery to its City Council before they voted on a mandatory mask ordinance. "It's been a long day, I apologize," he said.

"The units are full with critically-ill COVID patients," Saliski said. About 90% of them are Black. He said hospitals are able to manage for now, but it's not sustainable. "This mask slows that down, 95% protection from something as easy as cloth. ... If this continues the way it's going, we will be overrun."

More doctors followed him to the microphone, describing the dead being carried out within 30 minutes of each other, and doctors being disturbed when people on the street ask them if the media is lying about the pandemic as part of a political ploy

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/st ... 203300001/