Dover used to draw 135,000 (max capacity) in the stands and another 30K or so in the infield on race weekends. They have since removed over 80,000 seats and still can't sellout. They just gave one of their two race dates up to Nashville Speedway.
NASCAR has been steadily declining for about 15 years. Recent events are simply helping to accelerate the decline.
I think you place too much importance on attendance; attendance for most leagues (except maybe MLS) is on the decline.
NASCAR's focus should be growing the streaming experience, which they're doing successfully. That and data analytics is where future money lies. Additionally the car manufacturers, sponsors, networks, and advertisers have been pressuring NASCAR for years to make the sport more inclusive and they likely had a lot to say regarding the rebel flag. Do you think companies today want their brands tied to stuff like that?
Those guys are worth way more money than ticket sales ever will be.
There's declining attendance, and then there's just cratering attendance. I think NASCAR is certainly well on target to get rid of the Confederate flag (and probably at least a decade too late), but outside of current events/protests discussions, NASCAR has been on life support now for a couple of years. Like '93 said, a place like Dover has seen a drop of much more than 50%, and they used to have two races and now just have one, and people don't show up to that one race either. Some tracks don't even have races anymore. The sport itself is dying, and it was dying long before there were SJW's looking at the sport.
I think you place too much importance on attendance; attendance for most leagues (except maybe MLS) is on the decline.
NASCAR's focus should be growing the streaming experience, which they're doing successfully. That and data analytics is where future money lies. Additionally the car manufacturers, sponsors, networks, and advertisers have been pressuring NASCAR for years to make the sport more inclusive and they likely had a lot to say regarding the rebel flag. Do you think companies today want their brands tied to stuff like that?
Those guys are worth way more money than ticket sales ever will be.
There's declining attendance, and then there's just cratering attendance. I think NASCAR is certainly well on target to get rid of the Confederate flag (and probably at least a decade too late), but outside of current events/protests discussions, NASCAR has been on life support now for a couple of years. Like '93 said, a place like Dover has seen a drop of much more than 50%, and they used to have two races and now just have one, and people don't show up to that one race either. Some tracks don't even have races anymore. The sport itself is dying, and it was dying long before there were SJW's looking at the sport.
More like 75% (160k to 40k..)
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I think you place too much importance on attendance; attendance for most leagues (except maybe MLS) is on the decline.
NASCAR's focus should be growing the streaming experience, which they're doing successfully. That and data analytics is where future money lies. Additionally the car manufacturers, sponsors, networks, and advertisers have been pressuring NASCAR for years to make the sport more inclusive and they likely had a lot to say regarding the rebel flag. Do you think companies today want their brands tied to stuff like that?
Those guys are worth way more money than ticket sales ever will be.
There's declining attendance, and then there's just cratering attendance. I think NASCAR is certainly well on target to get rid of the Confederate flag (and probably at least a decade too late), but outside of current events/protests discussions, NASCAR has been on life support now for a couple of years. Like '93 said, a place like Dover has seen a drop of much more than 50%, and they used to have two races and now just have one, and people don't show up to that one race either. Some tracks don't even have races anymore. The sport itself is dying, and it was dying long before there were SJW's looking at the sport.
I don't know if dying is the word. In the end, any sport will be as big or small as the amount of fans it has and NASCAR will always have its fans, even if it means a shrunk down version of itself. If the PBA is sill alive, NASCAR will certainly survive too.
I'm ok with a smaller series; hopefully it'd mean a return to more variety. NASCAR needs to become like Supercars (again).
93henfan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:06 pm
Thankfully we're only a week and a half away from the F1 season opener. FInally, some real racing to watch.
And for the record, I root for the negro in F1, because I'm progressive.
Best racecar driver in the world.
This short season will be interesting. Any damage during a hairy start or mechanical failure will be amplified in the standings. Plus, Leclerc looks like worthy competition and those Honda power units at Red Bull are getting better every year.