I'm guessing that a white professor would not get arrested in his own living room and hauled down to the station for disrespecting an officer...clenz wrote:If we want racism to go away we need to stop talking about it and making race the center of our focus.
People need to stop focusing on what color the cop and professor are, why should that matter?
What should matter in this country is what people do, how people act, and what they stand for. Not the color of their skin.
just guessI'm betting he would if he acted the same way.Chizzang wrote:I'm guessing that a white professor would not get arrested in his own living room and hauled down to the station for disrespecting an officer...clenz wrote:If we want racism to go away we need to stop talking about it and making race the center of our focus.
People need to stop focusing on what color the cop and professor are, why should that matter?
What should matter in this country is what people do, how people act, and what they stand for. Not the color of their skin.
The pig. The pigs always have the best dope.Grizalltheway wrote:Which one of them is bringing the bud...?
Meh... no chanceclenz wrote:I'm betting he would if he acted the same way.Chizzang wrote:
I'm guessing that a white professor would not get arrested in his own living room and hauled down to the station for disrespecting an officer...
I would have been hauled downtown if I had not shown my ID, according to the officers that showed up at my door at 5:00am, when my alarm went off by mistake.clenz wrote:I'm betting he would if he acted the same way.Chizzang wrote:
I'm guessing that a white professor would not get arrested in his own living room and hauled down to the station for disrespecting an officer...
Chizzang wrote:It's all cool - everybody wins ultimately in this one
Cambridge cops will learn that a Harvard Professorial ID card should suffice as identification... and that you're going to get "verbally confronted" when you expect somebody in their own living room to provide more information than that.. PERIOD...
How many distinguished old dudes in a three piece suit (in their living rooms) need to come up with more than that as proof of who they are...?
When you get arrested and jailed on your own property I'll side with you on this one...wideright82 wrote:Chizzang wrote:It's all cool - everybody wins ultimately in this one
Cambridge cops will learn that a Harvard Professorial ID card should suffice as identification... and that you're going to get "verbally confronted" when you expect somebody in their own living room to provide more information than that.. PERIOD...
How many distinguished old dudes in a three piece suit (in their living rooms) need to come up with more than that as proof of who they are...?
It suffices as id that he is a real person. Not that he lives there, Cleets. I can't show my Villanova ID and expect someone to think I live anywhere on the main line, because I don't, but I have ID for the school. It's called **** respect, Gates wanted it, but didn't have the respect enough to let the cop do his job and show a **** lisence. It wasn't that he was just another uppity nig, it was that he was acting nigg--ish, the man is trying to bring me down, I don't have to do anything bull ****, woah is the black man. Until white people aren't all targeted by black as racists, I'll believe it, but it is about time some people learn most white peopel don't give a flying **** what color your skin is, and if they did, you can sure as **** bet a kenyan wouldn't be in the white house.
sorry... I ain't having any of that... Chizzang wrote:When you get arrested and jailed on your own property I'll side with you on this one...wideright82 wrote:
It suffices as id that he is a real person. Not that he lives there, Cleets. I can't show my Villanova ID and expect someone to think I live anywhere on the main line, because I don't, but I have ID for the school. It's called **** respect, Gates wanted it, but didn't have the respect enough to let the cop do his job and show a **** lisence. It wasn't that he was just another uppity nig, it was that he was acting nigg--ish, the man is trying to bring me down, I don't have to do anything bull ****, woah is the black man. Until white people aren't all targeted by black as racists, I'll believe it, but it is about time some people learn most white peopel don't give a flying **** what color your skin is, and if they did, you can sure as **** bet a kenyan wouldn't be in the white house.
Until then... there's more at play here
BOTH individuals wanted respect and neither was giving any ground - and that should never be the reason for arresting cuffing and jailing a citizen on their own property in their own home...
Fair enough...wideright82 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
When you get arrested and jailed on your own property I'll side with you on this one...
Until then... there's more at play here
BOTH individuals wanted respect and neither was giving any ground - and that should never be the reason for arresting cuffing and jailing a citizen on their own property in their own home...
Agree to disagree then Cleetster
Chizzang wrote:Fair enough...wideright82 wrote:
Agree to disagree then Cleetster
Please understand I have a bias against the notion that a law exists allowing American Citizens to be handcuffed and arrested simply because (and for no other reason) they pissed off a police officer... it simply opens the door wide - for suspicious factors regarding arrests
But I respectfully agree to disagree on this one...
Do you mean to say Professor Isaac Hayes-Gates??Cap'n Cat wrote:Cap'n Cat issues final ruling on the matter. It is decreed:
1. Obama should have reserved judgment before speaking as he did.
2. Officer Crowley does not, in fact, like blacks and was overly forceful with the Professor.
3. Professor Hayes used some unnecessary ghetto talk in dealing with Officer Crowley, thus enraging the latter.
Cap'n Cat's recommended remedy: Round of beers for all, shake hands, smile. Reppies for Obama for manning up and admitting he was wrong.
The Cap'n hath spoken.
Long live Cap'n Cat
"Approach, knave, and lick my stinking furry bunger until it is red raw."
And Biden probably ordered a Guinness Stout. Red, Light, Blue... and Brown!JoltinJoe wrote:So the prof ordered Red Stripe; the prez ordered Bud Light; and the officer ordered Blue Moon?
Red, Light & Blue!
Ivytalk wrote:And Biden probably ordered a Guinness Stout. Red, Light, Blue... and Brown!JoltinJoe wrote:So the prof ordered Red Stripe; the prez ordered Bud Light; and the officer ordered Blue Moon?
Red, Light & Blue!
Biden was prolly drinking Oban/rocks and an Iron City chaser. mafuckersD1B wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
And Biden probably ordered a Guinness Stout. Red, Light, Blue... and Brown!
Fuck, Biden could kick the crap atta all those mafuckers.
From Katie's Bar in Wilmington, he is that tough.D1B wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
And Biden probably ordered a Guinness Stout. Red, Light, Blue... and Brown!
Fuck, Biden could kick the crap atta all those mafuckers.
Dubya never pulled the race card and had it blow up in his face before.Cap'n Cat wrote:
Took that fvck, Dubya, five years to own up that "mistakes were made" in the Iraq thing.[/size]
I'll take a prez like that any day.
As always, you can lick my wrinkled grommet if you don't agree with me.
Pure, unadulterated BS. He never "manned up". He had his people cover his ass. If he'd come out and admit he fucked up it would be GONE by now.Cap'n Cat wrote:You're right, Jon, and others.dbackjon wrote:He fucked up. Shouldn't have commented on it until he had all the facts.
But, let's look at something. The motherfvcker manned up to it the next goddamned day and is doing some diplomacy over it, bringing people together to discuss it.
Took that fvck, Dubya, five years to own up that "mistakes were made" in the Iraq thing.
I'll take a prez like that any day.
As always, you can lick my wrinkled grommet if you don't agree with me.
AZGrizFan wrote:Pure, unadulterated BS. He never "manned up". He had his people cover his ass. If he'd come out and admit he fucked up it would be GONE by now.Cap'n Cat wrote:
You're right, Jon, and others.
But, let's look at something. The motherfvcker manned up to it the next goddamned day and is doing some diplomacy over it, bringing people together to discuss it.
Took that fvck, Dubya, five years to own up that "mistakes were made" in the Iraq thing.
I'll take a prez like that any day.
As always, you can lick my wrinkled grommet if you don't agree with me.
AZGrizFan wrote:Pure, unadulterated BS. He never "manned up". He had his people cover his ass. If he'd come out and admit he fucked up it would be GONE by now.Cap'n Cat wrote:
You're right, Jon, and others.
But, let's look at something. The motherfvcker manned up to it the next goddamned day and is doing some diplomacy over it, bringing people together to discuss it.
Took that fvck, Dubya, five years to own up that "mistakes were made" in the Iraq thing.
I'll take a prez like that any day.
As always, you can lick my wrinkled grommet if you don't agree with me.
The problem is that you have a positive feedback loop with negative racial attitudes. You have incidents like the OJ trial (whether or not you think he was guilty, the fact is the race issue was allowed to take over whereas they should have stuck with the evidence), the Duke Lacrosse case, and all the successful lawsuits that proved that affirmative action programs have resulted in lesser qualified minorities being admitted into education programs over more qualified whites. These things result in less sympathy by whites for problems that are legitimate and not imagined by victim mentality. When there's less sympathy for black people, black people get their feelings hurt (as anyone would in that situation) and are less likely to recognize a good bit of the blame for black social problems are not the fault of racism or whites. This leads to more incidents like ones aforementioned. Repeat process.clenz wrote:If we want racism to go away we need to stop talking about it and making race the center of our focus.
People need to stop focusing on what color the cop and professor are, why should that matter?
What should matter in this country is what people do, how people act, and what they stand for. Not the color of their skin.
