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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Here's 6 ...
Nefertiti
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:36 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:28 pm

True, and how long does immunity last, 6 months, 1 year or longer.
I think by the time a vaccine comes out (Russian one aside) we will have at least a bit better handle on the life cycle of COVID and the direction it is going.
One would hope we would, but there's no guarantee of that. Everything we and the rest of the world are doing is pinned on us having an incredibly effective vaccine and the ability to have herd immunity. Based on the science we see so far that seems to be pretty wishful thinking, but maybe positive thinking will make it happen. We certainly don't seem to have the stomach to deal with the messy details of what to do if that doesn't happen.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:06 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:36 pm

I think by the time a vaccine comes out (Russian one aside) we will have at least a bit better handle on the life cycle of COVID and the direction it is going.
One would hope we would, but there's no guarantee of that. Everything we and the rest of the world are doing is pinned on us having an incredibly effective vaccine and the ability to have herd immunity. Based on the science we see so far that seems to be pretty wishful thinking, but maybe positive thinking will make it happen. Some certainly don't seem to have the stomach to deal with the messy details of what to do if that doesn't happen.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:06 am

One would hope we would, but there's no guarantee of that. Everything we and the rest of the world are doing is pinned on us having an incredibly effective vaccine and the ability to have herd immunity. Based on the science we see so far that seems to be pretty wishful thinking, but maybe positive thinking will make it happen. Too many certainly don't seem to have the stomach to deal with the messy details of what to do if that doesn't happen.
FYP. ;)
Better? :nod:
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:25 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 am

FYP. ;)
Better? :nod:
I will accept it. :thumb:
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:25 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 am

FYP. ;)
Better? :nod:
What’s your level of tolerance for lives lost?
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kalm wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:20 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:25 am

Better? :nod:
What’s your level of tolerance for lives lost?
In reference to what?
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“Listening to experts to set policy is an elitist approach and I’m very fearful of an elitist approach,” he said. “I’m also fearful that it leads to totalitarianism, especially when you say, ‘Well. We’re doing it for the public good.’” to experts to set policy is an elitist approach and I’m very fearful of elitism.


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GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:23 am
kalm wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:20 am

What’s your level of tolerance for lives lost?
In reference to what?
People don’t have the stomach for.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:35 pm
Until the Bikini Team comes out of quarantine, I won’t believe it!
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:35 pm
Sweden is definitely the one to watch. Hope their numbers continue to trend down. But even their Fauci has admitted they should have been more restrictive with lockdowns. And their death rate is 7%.

In June, Tegnell conceded that too many citizens had died. "If we were to encounter the same disease again... I think we would settle on doing something in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done," he said, the BBC reported.

Not only did COVID-19 not come to a halt, but herd immunity is still "nowhere in sight," according to a Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine study published Tuesday.

"It is clear that not only are the rates of viral infection, hospitalization and mortality (per million population) much higher than those seen in neighboring Scandinavian countries, but also that the time-course of the epidemic in Sweden is different, with continued persistence of higher infection and mortality (as one is inexorably linked to the other) well beyond the few critical weeks period seen in Denmark, Finland and Norway, whose rapid lock-down measures seem to have been initially more successful in curtailing the infection surge," the authors wrote in their academic analysis.


In terms of COVID-19-related deaths, Norway, Denmark and Finland are each believed to be in the hundreds not thousands, current statistics indicate
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Some potentially great news...
BREAKING: Great news.

SalivaDirect received approval this morning from the @US_FDA.

This could be one the first major game changers in fighting the pandemic. Rarely am I this enthusiastic. Here’s why.

Follow if interested.
1. One reason? Saliva.

We already have it. We don’t need to export it from Italy or run out. We don’t need to stick something 4 inches up a kid’s nostril.

But that’s just the start.....
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-zeala ... ay-october
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced early Monday that the country’s general election will be delayed until October, citing concerns over a resurgent coronavirus.

The postponement of the September 19 election until October 17 comes despite New Zealand being one of the most successful countries to curb the pandemic.
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Ivytalk wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:21 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:35 pm
Until the Bikini Team comes out of quarantine, I won’t believe it!
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So this is also encouraging:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/worl ... ticleShare

But, color me cautiously optimistic. It seems like with US media, you can find pretty much whatever you want out there... resilient antibody responses, no antibody response...

And in years past, if it came from the NYT then if it wasn’t on the editorial page you could take it to the bank. But I’ve seen so much sloppy journalism it wouldn’t surprise me if they retract in a week or two citing they got spoofed by fake doctors.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:41 am
Ivytalk wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:21 am

Until the Bikini Team comes out of quarantine, I won’t believe it!
YES! WE NEED CONFIRMATION! QUICK - SEND WINTERBORN OVER THERE TO CONFIRM AND REPORT(POST) BACK.
Ah, the good old days (1990's) when Old Milwaukee could objectify women and Bud Light could make fun of Indian accents in their commercials.

That shit would get boycotted so fast two decades later by this pussified 18-35 buying public.
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93henfan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:17 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:41 am

YES! WE NEED CONFIRMATION! QUICK - SEND WINTERBORN OVER THERE TO CONFIRM AND REPORT(POST) BACK.
Ah, the good old days (1990's) when Old Milwaukee could objectify women and Bud Light could make fun of Indian accents in their commercials.

That shit would get boycotted so fast two decades later by this pussified 18-35 buying public.
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:21 am
93henfan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:17 am

Ah, the good old days (1990's) when Old Milwaukee could objectify women and Bud Light could make fun of Indian accents in their commercials.

That shit would get boycotted so fast two decades later by this pussified 18-35 buying public.
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Five Thirty Eight has pointed out repeatedly that the states that contributed the most to the second peak in cases nationally were contributing little to the first. There was never really anything in the data that showed you could have secondary outbreaks in the same place that were a good bit smaller than the first. I think the potential for outbreaks in many states that have already had them is limited.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:41 am
Ivytalk wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:21 am

Until the Bikini Team comes out of quarantine, I won’t believe it!
YES! WE NEED CONFIRMATION! QUICK - SEND WINTERBORN OVER THERE TO CONFIRM AND REPORT(POST) BACK.
Don't expect a quick answer. :coffee: It is going to take some extensive research and time to confirm the health of each member in the Swedish Bikini Team and to be thorough I will have to check out the woman's beach volleyball teams.

Dback can cover the male sports. :thumb:
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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:11 am
Sweden is definitely the one to watch. Hope their numbers continue to trend down. But even their Fauci has admitted they should have been more restrictive with lockdowns. And their death rate is 7%.
Facui can't say otherwise.

Because if he did it would undercut his own decisions and recommendations. And that would be bad for his continued career in politics........ I mean medicine.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:09 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:41 am

YES! WE NEED CONFIRMATION! QUICK - SEND WINTERBORN OVER THERE TO CONFIRM AND REPORT(POST) BACK.
Don't expect a quick answer. :coffee: It is going to take some extensive research and time to confirm the health of each member in the Swedish Bikini Team and to be thorough I will have to check out the woman's beach volleyball teams.

Dback can cover the male sports. :thumb:
Don't forget the Danish women's curling team is close by and should be checked.

I'll take one for the team and check out the Brazilian women's volleyball teams.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:52 am
Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:09 am

Don't expect a quick answer. :coffee: It is going to take some extensive research and time to confirm the health of each member in the Swedish Bikini Team and to be thorough I will have to check out the woman's beach volleyball teams.

Dback can cover the male sports. :thumb:
Don't forget the Danish women's curling team is close by and should be checked.

I'll take one for the team and check out the Brazilian women's volleyball teams.
Good point. I am probably going to have to apply for an extended visa now.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:52 am Don't forget the Danish women's curling team is close by and should be checked.
Those women were true heroes. They united the US and we were finally able to cheer for a foreign country in the Olympics. They brought us together in a way we have never seen before. We watched every match and had no clue what the rules were. It didn't really matter.

They need to come back and help us heal again. Only they can do it.
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