That's were we disagree, I no problem with anyone practicing their religion in a public space. My problem is when government forces religion on people.89Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:55 pmPublic schools, public places... both are and should be freedoms from. That's why I sent my kids to private school where half the parents were liberals and half were conservatives. We had an incredibly tight knit community of folks with different beliefs. Hell, I went to a friends house to watch the Obama inauguration because they were so excited he won.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:36 pm
Freedom from religion to me, means removing religion. Removing religion from schools, removing religion from public spaces and eventually removing religion entirely. This basically separates people, divides people, instead of meeting each other and learning from each other.![]()
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We would need to define public space and what's going on. If a church group wants to have a revival at a park and applies for the permits, that's fine. I was really talking about the gov spending money on religious things in a public space.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:10 pmThat's were we disagree, I no problem with anyone practicing their religion in a public space. My problem is when government forces religion on people.89Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:55 pm
Public schools, public places... both are and should be freedoms from. That's why I sent my kids to private school where half the parents were liberals and half were conservatives. We had an incredibly tight knit community of folks with different beliefs. Hell, I went to a friends house to watch the Obama inauguration because they were so excited he won.![]()
In either case, you're straying from the original point. One of your four tenets was not an actual freedom.

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You will have to explain it to me then. My original intent was in more English terms.89Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:18 pmWe would need to define public space and what's going on. If a church group wants to have a revival at a park and applies for the permits, that's fine. I was really talking about the gov spending money on religious things in a public space.
In either case, you're straying from the original point. One of your four tenets was not an actual freedom.
Freedom to own guns
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Yeah, exactly.
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Didn't say you were, but you knew that already.
The topic of the conversation was about the Left with their talking points and false narratives. I easily and quickly supplied you with several straight from a Leftist.
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There's already's HI54UNI's corollary to Godwin's Law for the Koch Brothers.
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Banning and freedom from are very different. I don't think very many people want to ban religion. There are a lot more who would ban guns though.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:22 pmYou will have to explain it to me then. My original intent was in more English terms.89Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:18 pm
We would need to define public space and what's going on. If a church group wants to have a revival at a park and applies for the permits, that's fine. I was really talking about the gov spending money on religious things in a public space.
In either case, you're straying from the original point. One of your four tenets was not an actual freedom.
Freedom to own guns
Banning Guns
Freedom of Religion
Banning all Religion.

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That may be true.

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AOC has and others have used similar verbiage, especially with respect to the Green New Deal.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:06 pmAnd they literally said we are all going to die?Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:15 am
Agree to disagree. AOC and more than a few others have given speeches with that message on a variety of topics (Environment, Pandemic, etc.).
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Loads of excitement with this ticket...
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Yup, including Harris who is on record as supporting a "mandatory buyback". For those too dumb to get it, that means confiscation.
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She is on the record for being for and against nearly everything.
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They are getting close to FCS ratings.
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Republican convention numbers will be in the shitter as well. Conventions are just glorified pep rallies and mean bupkes. I’m surprised anybody watches them, other than political wankers like Analjelly.
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AOC endorses Sanders in her "speech", and later clarifies on Twitter.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... s-n1237218The New York Democrat, who was given a 60-second slot for her remarks, opened her quick speech by offering her thanks to a “mass people’s movement working to establish 21st century social, economic, and human rights, including guaranteed health care, higher education, living wages, and labor rights for all people in the United States.”
She ended by seconding the nomination of Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., to be her party's presidential nominee, a symbolic move.
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That she nominated Sanders at a convention designed to formally nominate Biden, however, caused a bit of confusion on Twitter among those who tuned in. Ocasio-Cortez took to Twitter after her speech to clear up the point of her remarks.
If you were confused, no worries!
Convention rules require roll call & nominations for every candidate that passes the delegate threshold.
I was asked to 2nd the nom for Sen. Sanders for roll call.
I extend my deepest congratulations to @JoeBiden - let’s go win in November.https://t.co/uI92P3UfLn
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) August 19, 2020
It came as little surprise that Ocasio-Cortez — like Sanders, a democratic socialist — used her slot to formally back Sanders, who she also endorsed and campaigned for during the primaries.
But it was notable that Ocasio-Cortez — one of the most outspoken, progressive and youngest members of Congress — spent no time pushing the specific policies that she and Sanders have championed. She did not mention by name any of the signature policies that she and Sanders support, including the Green New Deal or Medicare for All, nor did she namecheck Joe Biden or President Donald Trump.
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She also wants to ban private health insurance. Remember the donk debate.
Harris- rated the most liberal senator in the Senate in 2019..
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It is a pageant meant to make politicians feel good and that is about it.
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I went with the Lakers getting upset by the Blazers.

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He’s got skin in the game- literally93henfan wrote:Not sure if Comey is out of touch or trollmaster level 11.
He's one of those JSO "conservatives," no?
He’s praying for an expeditious shutdown of Mr. Durham right around 20 January.
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I did as well. After 5 minutes I gave up and switched over to a rerun of Ice Road Truckers.
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