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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:30 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:18 am

Nah, UNI's as misguided as the others who think teaching your kids to reject pleas for help is the same as teaching them to lift others.

Y'all can jerk off about how wrong I am, but he's making a false equivalency. The overarching theme of American history is on my side, so I'm ok being wrong on CS.com...a football site made up of white, older, conservative males who nearly have driven out anyone but...
You're a zealot whose god is government. Like other zealots, you are as certain that your cause is righteous and that it is fated to succeed.
Yes, I want less government but my god is government. Got it. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:30 am You're a zealot whose god is government. Like other zealots, you are as certain that your cause is righteous and that it is fated to succeed.
Yes, I want less government but my god is government. Got it. :lol:
Right there ^^^ is where you show your naiveté Treep.

No society has ever or will ever achieve the social paradise you aspire to without exponentially increasing the size and power of government. You are a lot of things (like completely contradictory) but the one thing you are not is a “less government” advocate.

It is becoming clear why moderates like 88 are increasingly reviled by both right wing ideologues and left wing ideologues (like you).. because they point out that you aren’t wearing a halo. That you are actually absurd and your positions are bereft of consequential or sequential reason.

The more years I put under my belt more I realize the middle way is really the only way forward - but unfortunately groups like yours and the right’s are growing like a virus.




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CID1990 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:00 am
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Yes, I want less government but my god is government. Got it. :lol:
Right there ^^^ is where you show your naiveté Treep.

No society has ever or will ever achieve the social paradise you aspire to without exponentially increasing the size and power of government. You are a lot of things (like completely contradictory) but the one thing you are not is a “less government” advocate.

It is becoming clear why moderates like 88 are increasingly reviled by both right wing ideologues and left wing ideologues (like you).. because they point out that you aren’t wearing a halo. That you are actually absurd and your positions are bereft of consequential or sequential reason.

The more years I put under my belt more I realize the middle way is really the only way forward - but unfortunately groups like yours and the right’s are growing like a virus.




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Just depends how quickly you want change. Fence sitting is often wise and it allows others to do the heavy lifting.
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kalm wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:17 am
CID1990 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:00 am
Right there ^^^ is where you show your naiveté Treep.

No society has ever or will ever achieve the social paradise you aspire to without exponentially increasing the size and power of government. You are a lot of things (like completely contradictory) but the one thing you are not is a “less government” advocate.

It is becoming clear why moderates like 88 are increasingly reviled by both right wing ideologues and left wing ideologues (like you).. because they point out that you aren’t wearing a halo. That you are actually absurd and your positions are bereft of consequential or sequential reason.

The more years I put under my belt more I realize the middle way is really the only way forward - but unfortunately groups like yours and the right’s are growing like a virus.

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Just depends how quickly you want change. Fence sitting is often wise and it allows others to do the heavy lifting.
You're avoiding the irony of Trip stating that he wants less government when nearly everything he advocates for requires more government. You're also avoiding CID's statement that groups like Trip's and the alt-right are growing like a virus.

My opinions are based on my experience and I might be a white boy from a small town in Iowa but I've made some sacrifices and done some "heavy lifting" in my time - from living in the Austin neighborhood (where I was a minority in one of Chicago's most violent neighborhoods) to working to help minorities and women on the south and west sides of Chicago find positions in the construction trades to spending 5 years earning substantially less to substitute teach in an economically depressed school district where the majority of the students were Latino. I've put my money and my time where my mouth is when it comes to helping the less fortunate.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:10 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:30 pm Does anyone know what your rights are in this instance? I've always wondered how much you could legally retaliate to such behavior. No real attacking other than ripping up signs and taking a hat.

Mostly interested about what you are allowed to do if someone steals your hat or sign and won't give it back. Seems to be a common tactic of those on the Left.

Didn't take long for people to identify the 2 cunts. Apparently the mother has already filed charges with the Wilmington, DE PD.
.... The suspects, identified as Olivia Winslow, 21, and Camryn Amy, 21, were arrested by Wilmington police Friday and Saturday and charged with robbery, conspiracy and endangering the welfare of a child, according to Delaware Online. Amy was also charged with offensive touching.....
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:31 am
kalm wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:17 am

Just depends how quickly you want change. Fence sitting is often wise and it allows others to do the heavy lifting.
You're avoiding the irony of Trip stating that he wants less government when nearly everything he advocates for requires more government. You're also avoiding CID's statement that groups like Trip's and the alt-right are growing like a virus.

My opinions are based on my experience and I might be a white boy from a small town in Iowa but I've made some sacrifices and done some "heavy lifting" in my time - from living in the Austin neighborhood (where I was a minority in one of Chicago's most violent neighborhoods) to working to help minorities and women on the south and west sides of Chicago find positions in the construction trades to spending 5 years earning substantially less to substitute teach in an economically depressed school district where the majority of the students were Latino. I've put my money and my time where my mouth is when it comes to helping the less fortunate.
I didn’t out your lack of contributions to society, which are impressive and not surprising. I was referring to change and hopefully progress writ large.

(Imagining a line of stoic centrists marching downtown calmly (almost) yelling “what do we want??? Change!!! When do we want it??? Some time when both sides can finally agree...but not too quickly either!!!)

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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:02 am
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/20/former- ... cheme.html

I'm shocked. SHOCKED!
Only the best people.

I've lost track; what are we up to for arrest counts of former Trump officials?

But yeah, Donny was never involved in anything :lol:. (I know not actually in this case)
Maybe this will get him impeached. :lol: :dunce:

I hope Bannon has the book thrown at him. :nod:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:18 am
CID1990 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:01 am

Holy shit 88 bringing the PAIN lately
Nah, UNI's as misguided as the others who think teaching your kids to reject pleas for help is the same as teaching them to lift others.

Y'all can jerk off about how wrong I am, but he's making a false equivalency. The overarching theme of American history is on my side, so I'm ok being wrong on CS.com...a football site made up of white, older, conservative males who nearly have driven out anyone but...
Trip accusing people of making false equivalencies is quite rich. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:01 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:10 pm
Didn't take long for people to identify the 2 cunts. Apparently the mother has already filed charges with the Wilmington, DE PD.
.... The suspects, identified as Olivia Winslow, 21, and Camryn Amy, 21, were arrested by Wilmington police Friday and Saturday and charged with robbery, conspiracy and endangering the welfare of a child, according to Delaware Online. Amy was also charged with offensive touching.....
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There must be some evidence that they attacked the little boy for there to have been arrests but the video doesn't show that. They did steal a hat.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:13 pm
There must be some evidence that they attacked the little boy for there to have been arrests but the video doesn't show that. They did steal a hat.
They knocked it off the boys head. Also tore up their signs.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:14 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:13 pm

There must be some evidence that they attacked the little boy for there to have been arrests but the video doesn't show that. They did steal a hat.
They knocked it off the boys head. Also tore up their signs.
I'm not saying that they didn't knock it off the kid's head. But it doesn't show up in the video. You can't tell what's going on. They did tear up signage. You can see that.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:48 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:14 pm
They knocked it off the boys head. Also tore up their signs.
I'm not saying that they didn't knock it off the kid's head. But it doesn't show up in the video. You can't tell what's going on. They did tear up signage. You can see that.
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BDKJMU wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:10 pm Didn't take long for people to identify the 2 cunts. Apparently the mother has already filed charges with the Wilmington, DE PD.
.... The suspects, identified as Olivia Winslow, 21, and Camryn Amy, 21, were arrested by Wilmington police Friday and Saturday and charged with robbery, conspiracy and endangering the welfare of a child, according to Delaware Online. Amy was also charged with offensive touching.....
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The kid’s mother is a cunt too

She’s using her own kid as a prop

“Get your hat back baby”

Go get his hat back yourself you shit


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CID1990 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:28 am
The kid’s mother is a cunt too

She’s using her own kid as a prop

“Get your hat back baby”

Go get his hat back yourself you shit

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UNI88 wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:28 am The kid’s mother is a cunt too

She’s using her own kid as a prop

“Get your hat back baby”

Go get his hat back yourself you shit

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:thumb: Maybe she should be charged with endangering the welfare of a child too.
No shit

The two choads were just doing what progressive choads do.. no real surprises there

But the real cringey part for me was how this woman was exposing her kid to that kind of thing


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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:31 am
kalm wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:17 am

Just depends how quickly you want change. Fence sitting is often wise and it allows others to do the heavy lifting.
You're avoiding the irony of Trip stating that he wants less government when nearly everything he advocates for requires more government. You're also avoiding CID's statement that groups like Trip's and the alt-right are growing like a virus.

My opinions are based on my experience and I might be a white boy from a small town in Iowa but I've made some sacrifices and done some "heavy lifting" in my time - from living in the Austin neighborhood (where I was a minority in one of Chicago's most violent neighborhoods) to working to help minorities and women on the south and west sides of Chicago find positions in the construction trades to spending 5 years earning substantially less to substitute teach in an economically depressed school district where the majority of the students were Latino. I've put my money and my time where my mouth is when it comes to helping the less fortunate.
Everything I advocate is less government. The problem is many see gov't as a physical entity, but you completely miss the philosophical point of democracy: for the people by the people. A few understand the underlying points I continually attempt to make but CS has become such a circle jerk of conservatism (and you're a conservative, just not as extreme) that people here miss the forest for the tree, over and over again.

When you increase representation, you take away power from the government and shift it towards the people. With less representation, all you do is give singular individuals more power over the people (aka. increase the size of government).

Look at how big the government is right now due to the flawed nature of our democracy. This wasn't an overnight thing. Our system is built to allow handfuls of people, corporations, and big money swaths of influence. The Constitution itself, in addition to later laws, promotes this gross misrepresentation and growth of government.

People paying taxes to give themselves infrastructure, education, and healthcare is not big government. People wanting more representation is not big government. People wanting expanded voting or civil rights is not big government

A sprawling military industrial complex is big government. Corporate handouts is big government. A legal system which costs individuals an arm and a leg is big government. A police force which steals and kills with no consequence is big government. Laws which suppress votes is big government. The electoral college is big government.

The more power you hand the people, the weaker and smaller government becomes. Take a look at Trump; the majority of Americans neither voted for him nor support his policies, yet his individual power is vast. This is big government. Or take a look at Mitch McConnell; he himself can withhold the ability for the Senate to vote. This is big government.

It's time to pull your head out of the sand and see why people all over the country are upset, on both sides.
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Tripz, your argument collapses of its own weight in the second paragraph of your JSO-length screed. In our republican form of government, a higher number of elected representatives just creates smaller representative districts. The degree of “representation” of each person remains the same. You say nothing about how packing more butts into legislative seats — which increases the cost of government right there— will reduce wasteful spending, cut programs, solve the entitlements problem, or control the military-industrial complex. You just assume that electing 10,000 kids who think like you will solve everything.

If you protest that that is not what you mean by “democracy,” why not create a 330-million-person “New England town meeting” where everybody gets one Internet vote on everything that comes down the pike? Totally inefficient, and you’ve just created a new Leviathan.

Try again.
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Ivytalk wrote:Tripz, your argument collapses of its own weight in the second paragraph of your JSO-length screed. In our republican form of government, a higher number of elected representatives just creates smaller representative districts. The degree of “representation” of each person remains the same. You say nothing about how packing more butts into legislative seats — which increases the cost of government right there— will reduce wasteful spending, cut programs, solve the entitlements problem, or control the military-industrial complex. You just assume that electing 10,000 kids who think like you will solve everything.

If you protest that that is not what you mean by “democracy,” why not create a 330-million-person “New England town meeting” where everybody gets one Internet vote on everything that comes down the pike? Totally inefficient, and you’ve just created a new Leviathan.

Try again.
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:57 pm Tripz, your argument collapses of its own weight in the second paragraph of your JSO-length screed. In our republican form of government, a higher number of elected representatives just creates smaller representative districts. The degree of “representation” of each person remains the same. You say nothing about how packing more butts into legislative seats — which increases the cost of government right there— will reduce wasteful spending, cut programs, solve the entitlements problem, or control the military-industrial complex. You just assume that electing 10,000 kids who think like you will solve everything.

If you protest that that is not what you mean by “democracy,” why not create a 330-million-person “New England town meeting” where everybody gets one Internet vote on everything that comes down the pike? Totally inefficient, and you’ve just created a new Leviathan.

Try again.
You got so close to my point I thought you had it for a second.

More representation = larger inefficiency = smaller government. Things that really matter to the people get through.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:30 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:57 pm Tripz, your argument collapses of its own weight in the second paragraph of your JSO-length screed. In our republican form of government, a higher number of elected representatives just creates smaller representative districts. The degree of “representation” of each person remains the same. You say nothing about how packing more butts into legislative seats — which increases the cost of government right there— will reduce wasteful spending, cut programs, solve the entitlements problem, or control the military-industrial complex. You just assume that electing 10,000 kids who think like you will solve everything.

If you protest that that is not what you mean by “democracy,” why not create a 330-million-person “New England town meeting” where everybody gets one Internet vote on everything that comes down the pike? Totally inefficient, and you’ve just created a new Leviathan.

Try again.
You got so close to my point I thought you had it for a second.

More representation = larger inefficiency = smaller government. Things that really matter to the people get through.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:30 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:57 pm Tripz, your argument collapses of its own weight in the second paragraph of your JSO-length screed. In our republican form of government, a higher number of elected representatives just creates smaller representative districts. The degree of “representation” of each person remains the same. You say nothing about how packing more butts into legislative seats — which increases the cost of government right there— will reduce wasteful spending, cut programs, solve the entitlements problem, or control the military-industrial complex. You just assume that electing 10,000 kids who think like you will solve everything.

If you protest that that is not what you mean by “democracy,” why not create a 330-million-person “New England town meeting” where everybody gets one Internet vote on everything that comes down the pike? Totally inefficient, and you’ve just created a new Leviathan.

Try again.
You got so close to my point I thought you had it for a second.

More representation = larger inefficiency = smaller government. Things that really matter to the people get through.
You really are thick. Just let the “conservative“ old guys have this board and go sell your schtick someplace else.
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:07 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:30 pm
You got so close to my point I thought you had it for a second.

More representation = larger inefficiency = smaller government. Things that really matter to the people get through.
You really are thick. Just let the “conservative“ old guys have this board and go sell your schtick someplace else.
No point in doing it where everyone agrees with me. Maybe you should leave the CS safe space and try it for once. :coffee:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:16 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:07 pm

You really are thick. Just let the “conservative“ old guys have this board and go sell your schtick someplace else.
No point in doing it where everyone agrees with me. Maybe you should leave the CS safe space and try it for once. :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:20 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:16 pm

No point in doing it where everyone agrees with me. Maybe you should leave the CS safe space and try it for once. :coffee:
Safe space? That’s a hot one, Junior birdman. Where else can one duke it out with hardened lefties like Houndy, dback, klam, analprobe, and Chizzang?
Maybe he just likes being laughed at???
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