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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:11 pm
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And, are they security guards?
What part of 'police department' did you not understand?

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SDHornet wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:06 pm
Sad what happened, hopefully more facts come out. Unfortunately riots already erupted with likely more to come. :ohno:

I read that Blake had 3 domestic abuse charges against him in the past as well as sexual assault. Doesn't mean his is in the wrong in this situation though.
Also in 2015:
Racine police say K9 Dozer had to help officers take a man into custody when the man refused to go quietly into custody after he pulled a gun at a local bar.

Jacob Blake, 24, of Racine, was charged Monday in Racine County Circuit Court with one felony count of resisting arrest causing a soft tissue injury to a police officer and one misdemeanor count each of carrying a concealed weapon, carrying a firearm while intoxicated, endangering safety-use of a dangerous weapon, and disorderly conduct. If convicted, he will face up to 8-1/2 years in prison and/or up to $50,000 in fines.

According to the criminal complaint, Blake and two women were at the Brass Monkey tavern, 1436 Junction Avenue, Saturday when Blake got into an argument with another patron and pulled a black handgun. Blake pointed the gun at the other man, and the magazine fell to the floor. The bartender told Blake to leave, and he did but then pointed the gun through the window at patrons inside the bar before walking south on Junction Avenue.

Police say they encountered a woman walking on Junction who was in the bar with Blake, but she said she didn’t know what happened and that her friends left without her in a silver SUV. A few moments later, officers were advised that a silver SUV was traveling north on Junction with a male subject driving who matched the description of Blake, and they initiated a traffic stop in the 1200 block of Racine Avenue.

Believing the driver was armed, police conducted a high risk traffic stop, the complaint reads, and ordered Blake to put his hands out the window of the vehicle. Instead, Blake exited the SUV and started walking toward officers and ignored commands to get down on the ground. Officers forced Blake to the ground and ordered him to put his hands behind his back. When Blake refused to comply, K9 Dozer was deployed to force the defendant into compliance.

While police were at the hospital with Blake so he could be treated for the wound he obtained from K9 Dozer, officers say he refused to answer questions, but he did submit to a legal blood draw to determine his level of intoxication. At the time he was taken into custody, Blake was searched and police say he had a holster on his hip but no gun. A subsequent search of the SUV turned up a black handgun on the floor behind the drivers seat. A box of ammunition was also found, and two loaded magazines were discovered in Blake’s coat.

The defendant’s blood alcohol level came back at .144, according to the criminal complaint.

Blake remains in the Racine County Jail on a $5,000 cash bond. He will next be in court Oct. 1 for his preliminary hearing.
https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-d ... kVidND8fTg

But like Floyd (long criminal rap sheet) the left will make Blake into a saint..
https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-d ... kVidND8fTg
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Winterborn wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:45 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:36 pm


If the police are disbanded the criminals will take over inner city neighborhoods and wealthy people will hire private security. Trip will claim that it's racist, toxic and privileged and come full circle to demand that the rich pay for security to protect the less fortunate.
I hear that Blackwater does a good job in the security department.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:59 pm
SDHornet wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:06 pm
Sad what happened, hopefully more facts come out. Unfortunately riots already erupted with likely more to come. :ohno:

I read that Blake had 3 domestic abuse charges against him in the past as well as sexual assault. Doesn't mean his is in the wrong in this situation though.
Also in 2015:
Racine police say K9 Dozer had to help officers take a man into custody when the man refused to go quietly into custody after he pulled a gun at a local bar.

Jacob Blake, 24, of Racine, was charged Monday in Racine County Circuit Court with one felony count of resisting arrest causing a soft tissue injury to a police officer and one misdemeanor count each of carrying a concealed weapon, carrying a firearm while intoxicated, endangering safety-use of a dangerous weapon, and disorderly conduct. If convicted, he will face up to 8-1/2 years in prison and/or up to $50,000 in fines.

According to the criminal complaint, Blake and two women were at the Brass Monkey tavern, 1436 Junction Avenue, Saturday when Blake got into an argument with another patron and pulled a black handgun. Blake pointed the gun at the other man, and the magazine fell to the floor. The bartender told Blake to leave, and he did but then pointed the gun through the window at patrons inside the bar before walking south on Junction Avenue.

Police say they encountered a woman walking on Junction who was in the bar with Blake, but she said she didn’t know what happened and that her friends left without her in a silver SUV. A few moments later, officers were advised that a silver SUV was traveling north on Junction with a male subject driving who matched the description of Blake, and they initiated a traffic stop in the 1200 block of Racine Avenue.

Believing the driver was armed, police conducted a high risk traffic stop, the complaint reads, and ordered Blake to put his hands out the window of the vehicle. Instead, Blake exited the SUV and started walking toward officers and ignored commands to get down on the ground. Officers forced Blake to the ground and ordered him to put his hands behind his back. When Blake refused to comply, K9 Dozer was deployed to force the defendant into compliance.

While police were at the hospital with Blake so he could be treated for the wound he obtained from K9 Dozer, officers say he refused to answer questions, but he did submit to a legal blood draw to determine his level of intoxication. At the time he was taken into custody, Blake was searched and police say he had a holster on his hip but no gun. A subsequent search of the SUV turned up a black handgun on the floor behind the drivers seat. A box of ammunition was also found, and two loaded magazines were discovered in Blake’s coat.

The defendant’s blood alcohol level came back at .144, according to the criminal complaint.

Blake remains in the Racine County Jail on a $5,000 cash bond. He will next be in court Oct. 1 for his preliminary hearing.
https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-d ... kVidND8fTg

But like Floyd (long criminal rap sheet) the left will make Blake into a saint..
https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-d ... kVidND8fTg
Figures you have this man convicted and tried already, just like you did Ahmaud Arberry.
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So the BLM rioters last night, according to local media, a combination of ransacked, looted, torched:
-used car dealership & lot
-charter school
-law firm
-courthouse
-a dinosaur museum :suspicious:
-public library (like any of them would use it) :lol:
-USPS building- yeah, that will help people mail ballots for Biden. :lol:
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:15 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:59 pm

Also in 2015:

https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-d ... kVidND8fTg

But like Floyd (long criminal rap sheet) the left will make Blake into a saint..
https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-d ... kVidND8fTg
Figures you have this man convicted and tried already, just like you did Ahmaud Arberry.
Figures you would ignore his violent criminal history when looking at the current situation.
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Peaceful Protest in Kenosha today, so far.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:24 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:15 pm


Figures you have this man convicted and tried already, just like you did Ahmaud Arberry.
Figures you would ignore his violent criminal history when looking at the current situation.
So we should vote against Trump because he hired hookers, went bankrupt, and cheated people out of money in the past?
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The crowd gathers near the front of the Kenosha County Courthouse on Monday night in response to Sunday night's officer-involved shooting of Jacob Blake.

KENOSHA NEWS PHOTO BY DAN TRUTTSCHEL

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DKI, community band to repair damage from protests

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Tear gas and rubber bullets clearing out the protest.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:10 pm
Winterborn wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:45 pm


I hear that Blackwater does a good job in the security department.
Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009. Became XE Services in 2009, then Academi in 2011. 2014 merged with Triple Canopy & other security companies under the Constellis Group.
Really? They seem awful real to me, no matter if they are part of a conglomerate or not. :coffee:

https://www.blackwaterusa.com/
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:41 pm
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Looks like they're helping each other board up their businesses as if there was a hurricane on Lake Michigan or something.

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There is/was an open warrant on Blake from a July 6th hearing in connection to a domestic abuse case from which he was charged with 3rd degree sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:10 pm
Winterborn wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:45 pm

I hear that Blackwater does a good job in the security department.
Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009. Became XE Services in 2009, then Academi in 2011. 2014 merged with Triple Canopy & other security companies under the Constellis Group.
Whoosh...

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Winterborn wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:46 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:10 pm

Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009. Became XE Services in 2009, then Academi in 2011. 2014 merged with Triple Canopy & other security companies under the Constellis Group.
Really? They seem awful real to me, no matter if they are part of a conglomerate or not. :coffee:

https://www.blackwaterusa.com/
The original 'Blackwater' apparently no longer exists. They are 'Academi' now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi
https://www.academi.com/
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:25 pm
Peaceful Protest in Kenosha today, so far.

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Just peaceful fires.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:00 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:25 pm
Peaceful Protest in Kenosha today, so far.

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Just peaceful fires.

Those don't look like protest to me. And yes there were peaceful protest. What do you have against peaceful protest?

And yes, rioters and looters should be procecuted.
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Winterborn wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:07 pm
There is/was an open warrant on Blake from a July 6th hearing in connection to a domestic abuse case from which he was charged with 3rd degree sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct.
According to the Insider

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A warrant for his arrest was active when he was shot — though there has been no suggestion so far that this was related to his encounter with the police.
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Here is what Karen or in this case Chryl from facebook is saying.

Chryl Schuster
I've been inundated by people asking my thoughts on the Kenosha/Jacob Blake shooting. Here's my take:
1. Don't forget the media has an agenda and it tends to not involve waiting for full information before rocketing their version in front of as many uninformed people as possible.
2. Police were called because Jacob Blake was waving a knife around in a gas station (not because he was roaming the countryside as a non-violent friendly fellow). While en route, dispatch informed police that Blake had an outstanding warrant in regard to his recent sexual assault and domestic abuse charges.
3. Police deployed a taser and it failed, as they are prone to do more than we'd like, despite being a great tool.
4. My research thus far, very early, is showing that Blake said he had a gun in the car and was going to go get it. He continued to brandish the knife while disregarding officer commands to drop it, which would have ended the situation PEACEFULLY, if he'd have complied with such lawful orders.
5. When he reached into the car, officers fired. Why? Because he already has one weapon and says he's getting a gun next from the location he's reaching into.
I'll continue to whether the public opinion storm and wait for all facts but these seem to be what has been established for me thus far.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:03 am
Winterborn wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:07 pm
There is/was an open warrant on Blake from a July 6th hearing in connection to a domestic abuse case from which he was charged with 3rd degree sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct.
According to the Insider

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A warrant for his arrest was active when he was shot — though there has been no suggestion so far that this was related to his encounter with the police.
Which is why we should be withholding judgment till all the facts are known.
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UNI88 wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:38 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:10 pm

Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009. Became XE Services in 2009, then Academi in 2011. 2014 merged with Triple Canopy & other security companies under the Constellis Group.
Whoosh...
Just a typical BDK reaction. Sees the obvious but doesn't look beyond the surface.
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Winterborn wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:41 am
Gil Dobie wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:03 am


According to the Insider

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A warrant for his arrest was active when he was shot — though there has been no suggestion so far that this was related to his encounter with the police.
Which is why we should be withholding judgment till all the facts are known.
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Fire, EMS won’t go into most scenes without the police - get ready for them to not respond to all kinds of calls... like domestics with injuries

Your second statement reminds me of some of those “black people do X” statements over in the gorillas thread - blanket statement and just as dumb


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The rare times they actually protect the public isn't enough to overcome their vast criminal enterprise. The mafia fed and clothed the poor, and even protected people. They were still criminals doing whatever they wanted to stay in power.

This nationwide network of gangs needs to be reigned in for freedom to thrive.

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