SDHornet wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:13 am
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:10 am
It was reading MLK that I realized that there's a stark difference between promoting and understanding violence.
By your logic, I can say that you approve of violence as well by not condemning the systemic items in place which 'cause people to die, live sickly, meager, or oppressed lives. Of course I don't agree with your logic, but drawn out violence and immediate violence is still violence.
And which systemic items may that be?
An entire legal and economic system built by those in power. The simple fact is that law is not only created by those in power, but they choose who must follow it and how. That's the hard thing for many people to understand. We want to believe in the abstract notions of justice and fairness...that of a just world. The truth is, that can't exist until democracy reigns and hierarchic systems are removed.
And when you get the bogeymen of mob rule (which seems to pervade mostly conservative thoughts, but liberals too), it's often a form of projection. They themselves are the monsters who need the laws (and guess who bypasses those laws?).
As for MLK, I think this article sums up my thoughts:
https://timeline.com/by-the-end-of-his- ... e177a8c87b
“Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena,” he told the assembled crowd of mostly white doctors and academics. “They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking.”
“Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the white man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the white man. These are often difficult things to say but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.”
Negro and white can be substituted (or not) for poor and privileged, and you get the same things.
The experience of taking.