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Re: 2020 General Election

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This is interesting. Target Smart, a Democratic organization, was showing how Trump voters were pretty much matching or beating Democrats in early mail in and absentee voting. Interesting the Dems outpaced them from Oct 19th to the election.

https://www.toptradeguru.com/news/dems- ... tes/?amp=1

These are screenshots of Target smart, so it's not website bias. Very peculiar.

For a group so fired up, they sure waited a long time to vote.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:53 pm By immediately casting doubt on our elections simply because he’s losing. He has zero evidence to prove his claims.


He has provided no evidence to support his claims. Do you blindly accept whatever your told?


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No, but apparently you do.
Yeah. That’s what’s happening.

But I’m sure the evidence is forthcoming. Just like Trumps healthcare plan, it’s beautiful and great and will be ready soon.


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UNI88 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:14 pm Image

Read Ibanez's post - exhausting all legal means isn't the issue it's "lying and making false accusations without any evidence. That’s the problem. It’s not the legal challenge. It's his undermining the election with his baseless claims and wanting these votes counted but not not those votes."

Trump needs to grow TF up.
So it’s wrong for him to want them to count the legal votes only, and not the illegally cast ones?

Please explain to me how that’s wrong.
That isn’t what we’re saying, broham.

PROVE THE ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD! He is saying there’s fraud. Prove it. It’s that fucking simple. He says illegal votes are cast. Ok, that’s serious. Back up your claim.


I suspect he’s full of shit since his law suits aren’t gaining much traction. Oh, and there STILL isn’t evidence, aside from the apparent dead guys voting (which has been investigated, btw). Fraud shouldn’t be swept under the rug. But you can’t just throw out an allegation and not back it up.


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I tell ya....Tucker is losing it


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Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
So it’s wrong for him to want them to count the legal votes only, and not the illegally cast ones?

Please explain to me how that’s wrong.
That isn’t what we’re saying, broham.

PROVE THE ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD! He is saying there’s fraud. Prove it. It’s that fucking simple. He says illegal votes are cast. Ok, that’s serious. Back up your claim.


I suspect he’s full of shit since his law suits aren’t gaining much traction. Oh, and there STILL isn’t evidence, aside from the apparent dead guys voting (which has been investigated, btw). Fraud shouldn’t be swept under the rug. But you can’t just throw out an allegation and not back it up.


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Look at my post above yours.

How does a Democratic firm show that Trump supporters are voting at higher rates than Dems during early and absentee voting, only to be crushed by those that weren't fired up enough to mail a ballot before Oct 19?.
.Huh? How!? Huh. :lol:
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm That isn’t what we’re saying, broham.

PROVE THE ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD! He is saying there’s fraud. Prove it. It’s that fucking simple. He says illegal votes are cast. Ok, that’s serious. Back up your claim.


I suspect he’s full of shit since his law suits aren’t gaining much traction. Oh, and there STILL isn’t evidence, aside from the apparent dead guys voting (which has been investigated, btw). Fraud shouldn’t be swept under the rug. But you can’t just throw out an allegation and not back it up.


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Look at my post above yours.

How does a Democratic firm show that Trump supporters are voting at higher rates than Dems during early and absentee voting, only to be crushed by those that weren't fired up enough to mail a ballot before Oct 19?.
.Huh? How!? Huh. :lol:
Let’s figure it out. I’m all for investigating if there’s shenanigans afoot.

It’s interesting to note that in many counties and states, Trump is performing about as well as he did in 2016. perhaps many 3rd party voters in 2016 voted Dem this year. How many more people are voter eligible in 2020 vs 2016? There’s a lot to look at - and it’s worth looking at to ensure the integrity of our elections. We can’t just say someone cheated. Let’s prove it.


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Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:20 pm
SeattleGriz wrote:
Look at my post above yours.

How does a Democratic firm show that Trump supporters are voting at higher rates than Dems during early and absentee voting, only to be crushed by those that weren't fired up enough to mail a ballot before Oct 19?.
.Huh? How!? Huh. :lol:
Let’s figure it out. I’m all for investigating if there’s shenanigans afoot.

It’s interesting to note that in many counties and states, Trump is performing about as well as he did in 2016. perhaps many 3rd party voters in 2016 voted Dem this year. How many more people are voter eligible in 2020 vs 2016? There’s a lot to look at - and it’s worth looking at to ensure the integrity of our elections. We can’t just say someone cheated. Let’s prove it.


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I agree, but you have to realize that proving it isn't possible today. In Nevada, they filed a lawsuit because many of the voters, who were casino workers, left Nevada due to COVID more than 30 days before the election and were ineligible to vote. That lawsuit was pretty fast, but we are nowhere near seeing a judgement
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I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:27 pm In Nevada, they filed a lawsuit because many of the voters, who were casino workers, left Nevada due to COVID more than 30 days before the election and were ineligible to vote.
I feel like this is missing something. Why were they ineligible to vote? They could have requested a mail in ballot... Nevada's cutoff was Oct 14.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:39 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:27 pm In Nevada, they filed a lawsuit because many of the voters, who were casino workers, left Nevada due to COVID more than 30 days before the election and were ineligible to vote.
I feel like this is missing something. Why were they ineligible to vote? They could have requested a mail in ballot... Nevada's cutoff was Oct 14.
COVID shut down Vegas. They left long before the cutoff date to find work elsewhere.
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Vidav wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:37 pm I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
Please. You've seen the memes. If you bought into Trump stealing 2016, Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, then you have no room to criticize.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:44 pm
Vidav wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:37 pm I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
Please. You've seen the memes. If you bought into Trump stealing 2016, Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, then you have no room to criticize.
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Vidav wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:37 pm I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
Well in 2016 Trump WINNING automatically meant election fraud with absolutely no evidence, so at least we’re consistent.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:44 pm
Vidav wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:37 pm I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
Please. You've seen the memes. If you bought into Trump stealing 2016, Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, then you have no room to criticize.
As WC Fields once said, There's a Sucker born every minute. I switch over to listen to the Trump radio station today for a minute. They are into deep tinfoil hat shit. I was hoping with Trump gone, we would get back to some normalicy.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:44 pm
Vidav wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:37 pm I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
Please. You've seen the memes. If you bought into Trump stealing 2016, Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, then you have no room to criticize.
Shouldn't the reverse also be true? Someone who criticized people who bought into Trump stealing 2016, Russia collusion, or Ukraine impeachment has no room to buy into the Dems are stealing 2020.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:01 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:48 pm
It was multiple dead people.
The postal stuff was over several months. So was the back and forth over PA’s election laws. It takes days and weeks to gather evidence, collect affidavits, etc. Weeks more to be expedited through multiple court levels. In 2000 Gore litigated for 37 days, and that was 1 state.
Multiple dead people = slightly better circumstantial evidence.

On the postal "stuff", several months is "just before" relative to the 4 years that Trump was in office. And you're nitpicking the details in order to avoid addressing the underlying issue that Trump's administration was involved in questionable activities that might sway the election.

I'm not as concerned with Trump going to court. My issue with him is his inflammatory rhetoric that he won and the election is being stolen. It's one thing to state that there are irregularities that need to be investigated before the results can be determined, it's another claim victory while simultaneously whining like a baby.

This is just another example of Trump acting like Hillary and failing to be a Leader.
Completely agree. Count every legal ballot. :nod:
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More on the "software glitch".



Politico article on GA also having issues with this system.
The counties use voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems and electronic poll books — used to sign in voters — made by KnowInk.


The companies “uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch,” said Marcia Ridley, elections supervisor at Spalding County Board of Election. That glitch prevented pollworkers from using the pollbooks to program smart cards that the voters insert into the voting machines.
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May as well add the Deep State into the fray. Hammer and Scorecard you say...



A couple of hand count audits should clear this up, no?
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Twitter thread on the Alito order pertaining to the votes received late in PA. Not sure how a re-vote would work if it got to that point. Since some precincts/districts didn't follow the vote segregation order from the PA SC, not sure how you "un-count" those. So basically how would PA validate its results?

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Lol. Alito just reiterates the status quo of the previous order. There was no evidence presented that PA has not been segregating those votes.

But, if that's what you're counting on - good luck. :lol:
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm



I tell ya....Tucker is losing it


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Ummm, he wasn't saying that Biden will literally force you to drink Starbucks coffee. Pleade tell me you realize he was making an analogy there.
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:rofl:

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Vidav wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:37 pm I love that Trump losing automatically means voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence. You guys are hilarious. :lol:
Well in 2016 Trump WINNING automatically meant election fraud with absolutely no evidence, so at least we’re consistent.
So maybe history will repeat itself? Lol




Meanwhile - saw two Qanon fucks were arrested for trying to deliver fake ballots. Hmmm..I wasn’t aware Qanon skewed Democrat.


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Baldy wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm



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Ummm, he wasn't saying that Biden will literally force you to drink Starbucks coffee. Pleade tell me you realize he was making an analogy there.
I know that, Bald One. It’s his “the end is nigh” speech.


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