2020 General Election

[UNI88]

[Ibanez]

Die for Trump? Die for a man that wouldn't give you the time of day? Shit is getting weird.

[kalm]

I lean this way too. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what happens with his supporters and the Republican Party.

[SeattleGriz]

Mentioned it early in this thread that the main attack was going to be if votes were equal as they have to be.

Looks like Texas is bringing a lawsuit.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... rt+News%29

So the lawsuit says the results from those 4 states are unconstitutional? I like how the other states are already calling out Texas a publicity stunt and ridiculous. They claim there are 80k forged ballots in Ga...i'm sure the evidence is on its way. What is the injury to Texas? So what is Georgia executed their election in a certain way, how does that affect the voting rights and election results of Texas? Does Texas have the standing? Can one state say how another chooses it's electors? I'm betting the Supreme Court does nothing.

What does Texas hope to gain? Guess which ballots are "illegal"? I'm not sure how you can fairly and accurately determine that.

OR you can split the 62 EV from the four states. That still wouldn't give Trump 270.

Or a different path meaning...let the state legislatures decide?

I'm interested in what will happen and how the Safe Harbor deadline could affect this.

It's all in how the votes were treated. I know I had to show my ID and present a signature that matched my license.

Did everyone else meet the same standard, or are we going to allow people to simply scribbles on a napkin and count it as a valid vote? Extreme example, but I believe that is what they are getting at.

Remember. When Obama did this, it was hard knuckle politics. Now it's wrong.

[kalm]

So the lawsuit says the results from those 4 states are unconstitutional? I like how the other states are already calling out Texas a publicity stunt and ridiculous. They claim there are 80k forged ballots in Ga...i'm sure the evidence is on its way. What is the injury to Texas? So what is Georgia executed their election in a certain way, how does that affect the voting rights and election results of Texas? Does Texas have the standing? Can one state say how another chooses it's electors? I'm betting the Supreme Court does nothing.

What does Texas hope to gain? Guess which ballots are "illegal"? I'm not sure how you can fairly and accurately determine that.

OR you can split the 62 EV from the four states. That still wouldn't give Trump 270.

Or a different path meaning...let the state legislatures decide?

I'm interested in what will happen and how the Safe Harbor deadline could affect this.

It's all in how the votes were treated. I know I had to show my ID and present a signature that matched my license.

Did everyone else meet the same standard, or are we going to allow people to simply scribbles on a napkin and count it as a valid vote? Extreme example, but I believe that is what they are getting at.

Remember. When Obama did this, it was hard knuckle politics. Now it's wrong.

Why didn’t you just mail it in?

[Ibanez]

So the lawsuit says the results from those 4 states are unconstitutional? I like how the other states are already calling out Texas a publicity stunt and ridiculous. They claim there are 80k forged ballots in Ga...i'm sure the evidence is on its way. What is the injury to Texas? So what is Georgia executed their election in a certain way, how does that affect the voting rights and election results of Texas? Does Texas have the standing? Can one state say how another chooses it's electors? I'm betting the Supreme Court does nothing.

What does Texas hope to gain? Guess which ballots are "illegal"? I'm not sure how you can fairly and accurately determine that.

OR you can split the 62 EV from the four states. That still wouldn't give Trump 270.

Or a different path meaning...let the state legislatures decide?

I'm interested in what will happen and how the Safe Harbor deadline could affect this.

It's all in how the votes were treated. I know I had to show my ID and present a signature that matched my license.

Did everyone else meet the same standard, or are we going to allow people to simply scribbles on a napkin and count it as a valid vote? Extreme example, but I believe that is what they are getting at.

Remember. When Obama did this, it was hard knuckle politics. Now it's wrong.

Texas is saying the 4 states illegally changed their election procedures due to COVID-19. Texas is asking to set aside/not count/throw away millions of votes from residents of states other than Texas. What's the injury to Texas? Hasn't a similar case been filed with the Supreme Court and thrown out?

Besides, this is just a publicity stunt. The AG is a Trump loyalists and wants to have a future in Republican politics. This is all for show.

Btw - does anyone find it ironic that an AG under FBI Investigation for criminal conduct and actually was indicted on fraud charges is now trying to sue in the name of fairness and the law?

FTR - my signature is essentially "M" with scribbles.

[AZGrizFan]

I lean this way too. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what happens with his supporters and the Republican Party.

Yeah. Because Edward Norton played a card player in a movie once, and his DAD is a prosecutor, he's now the political expert defining Trump's every move.

This is a long way of Norton saying "I have zero fucking clue why Trump's doing this, but here's my conspiracy theory".

[AZGrizFan]

It's all in how the votes were treated. I know I had to show my ID and present a signature that matched my license.

Did everyone else meet the same standard, or are we going to allow people to simply scribbles on a napkin and count it as a valid vote? Extreme example, but I believe that is what they are getting at.

Remember. When Obama did this, it was hard knuckle politics. Now it's wrong.

Texas is saying the 4 states illegally changed their election procedures due to COVID-19. Texas is asking to set aside/not count/throw away millions of votes from residents of states other than Texas. What's the injury to Texas? Hasn't a similar case been filed with the Supreme Court and thrown out?

Besides, this is just a publicity stunt. The AG is a Trump loyalists and wants to have a future in Republican politics. This is all for show.

Btw - does anyone find it ironic that an AG under FBI Investigation for criminal conduct and actually was indicted on fraud charges is now trying to sue in the name of fairness and the law?

FTR - my signature is essentially "M" with scribbles.

First of all, EVERYTHING done in politics is done for future political gain, so, no shit sherlock.

Secondly, Texas' "injury" is having to put up with Biden (or worse, HARRIS) as President for the next four years!

[Ibanez]

Texas is saying the 4 states illegally changed their election procedures due to COVID-19. Texas is asking to set aside/not count/throw away millions of votes from residents of states other than Texas. What's the injury to Texas? Hasn't a similar case been filed with the Supreme Court and thrown out?

Besides, this is just a publicity stunt. The AG is a Trump loyalists and wants to have a future in Republican politics. This is all for show.

Btw - does anyone find it ironic that an AG under FBI Investigation for criminal conduct and actually was indicted on fraud charges is now trying to sue in the name of fairness and the law?

FTR - my signature is essentially "M" with scribbles.

First of all, EVERYTHING done in politics is done for future political gain, so, no shit sherlock.

Secondly, Texas' "injury" is having to put up with Biden (or worse, HARRIS) as President for the next four years!

You missed my point, not surprising.

[SeattleGriz]

It's all in how the votes were treated. I know I had to show my ID and present a signature that matched my license.

Did everyone else meet the same standard, or are we going to allow people to simply scribbles on a napkin and count it as a valid vote? Extreme example, but I believe that is what they are getting at.

Remember. When Obama did this, it was hard knuckle politics. Now it's wrong.

Why didn’t you just mail it in?

I did. But to get to that point I had to prove who I was.

Not everyone in the election had to do that, and I believe that is the crux of the case.

[AZGrizFan]

First of all, EVERYTHING done in politics is done for future political gain, so, no shit sherlock.

Secondly, Texas' "injury" is having to put up with Biden (or worse, HARRIS) as President for the next four years!

You missed my point, not surprising.

I answered your question. What "point", exactly, did I miss?

[UNI88]

You missed my point, not surprising.

I answered your question. What "point", exactly, did I miss?

Maybe the irony of an AG under FBI Investigation for criminal conduct who was indicted on fraud charges now trying to sue in the name of fairness and the law.

[Skjellyfetti]

I have no idea if it's a plan, but I would expect all the weak stuff to come first. Ain't going straight to the Supreme Court. It's got to lose it's way there.

Aw shucks. I guess it turns out, all they had was weak stuff.

Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Reverse Pennsylvania Election Results
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/94423051 ... n-resultse

[JohnStOnge]

Mentioned it early in this thread that the main attack was going to be if votes were equal as they have to be.

Looks like Texas is bringing a lawsuit.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... rt+News%29

Yes one more indication that the Republican Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Biden won. Now we've had to endure a month of Republicans trying to turn us into a banana republic where the guy who clearly lost the election gets to stay in office anyway.

[SeattleGriz]

Mentioned it early in this thread that the main attack was going to be if votes were equal as they have to be.

Looks like Texas is bringing a lawsuit.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... rt+News%29

Yes one more indication that the Republican Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Biden won. Now we've had to endure a month of Republicans trying to turn us into a banana republic where the guy who clearly lost the election gets to stay in office anyway.

You got a problem with following the law, Mr Cheater?

[UNI88]

Mentioned it early in this thread that the main attack was going to be if votes were equal as they have to be.

Looks like Texas is bringing a lawsuit.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... rt+News%29

Yes one more indication that the Republican Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Biden won. Now we've had to endure a month of Republicans trying to turn us into a banana republic where the guy who clearly lost the election gets to stay in office anyway.

Yes one more indication that the Democratic Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Trump won. We had to endure nearly three months of Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats trying to turn us into a banana republic by replacing the guy who clearly won the election.

Did you speak up against that farce?

[JohnStOnge]

Though I would not put anything past the corrupt Republican Party at this point, we can hope that is holds:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... bidens-win

Other than Wisconsin, every state appears to have met the safe harbor deadline, which means Congress has to accept the electoral votes that will be cast next week and sent to the Capitol for counting on Jan. 6. Those votes will elect Biden as the country's next president.

This is ridiculous anyway. Biden won the election and it wasn't even that close. The Republican Party has now identified itself as a threat to our Democratic Republic form of of government. At this point anybody who continues to vote Republican is either horribly ignorant or willfully corrupt.

[JohnStOnge]

Yes one more indication that the Republican Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Biden won. Now we've had to endure a month of Republicans trying to turn us into a banana republic where the guy who clearly lost the election gets to stay in office anyway.

Yes one more indication that the Democratic Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Trump won. We had to endure nearly three months of Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats trying to turn us into a banana republic by replacing the guy who clearly won the election.

Did you speak up against that farce?

No because Trump did commit an offense that merited impeachment and removal from office. The reason it didn't happen is because the Republicans controlled the Senate. Right now we are seeing just how corrupt the Republican Party is. The Republicans in the Senate were corrupt then and they are corrupt now.

There is a difference between Congress impeaching a President because of high crimes and/or misdemeanors and trying to overturn the results of a fair election.

[BDKJMU]

Yes one more indication that the Democratic Party is totally corrupt. We had an election. Trump won. We had to endure nearly three months of Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats trying to turn us into a banana republic by replacing the guy who clearly won the election.

Did you speak up against that farce?

No because Trump did commit an offense that merited impeachment and removal from office. The reason it didn't happen is because the Republicans controlled the Senate. Right now we are seeing just how corrupt the Republican Party is. The Republicans in the Senate were corrupt then and they are corrupt now.

There is a difference between Congress impeaching a President because of high crimes and/or misdemeanors and trying to overturn the results of a fair election.

And what pray tell was that?

[AZGrizFan]

I answered your question. What "point", exactly, did I miss?

Maybe the irony of an AG under FBI Investigation for criminal conduct who was indicted on fraud charges now trying to sue in the name of fairness and the law.

That’s was the entire point of your post?

[UNI88]

Maybe the irony of an AG under FBI Investigation for criminal conduct who was indicted on fraud charges now trying to sue in the name of fairness and the law.

That’s was the entire point of your post?

My post?

[AZGrizFan]

That’s was the entire point of your post?

My post?

Sorry. I didn’t’ look at who posted that.

[HI54UNI]

I haven't looked at the Texas case to see if this is really in there but this is floating around on the interwebs. Would be interesting to have a President Biden and VP Pence.

[Gil Dobie]

Had to laugh, someone said Biden has won more times in Georgia than the Falcons.

[SDHornet]

Oh not counting the affidavits either? There's fraud and evidence of it. Enough evidence to overturn anything? Probably not.

This isn't about fraud.

There's always going to be fraud and it should be weeded out whenever its founded and those that deal in it should be punished. But was there widespread fraud in several states to swing the election? No.

Trumps actions are about undermining our election process and sowing seeds of doubt. The pattern is so painfully obvious - because it's his usual M.O.

We had 4 years of "Trump is an illegitimate president because Russia" (looking at you jelly) with Hillary still not accepting defeat 4 years later and it's Trump that is sowing the seeds of doubt? Be serious.

When Trump exhausts his legal challenges, he'll move on to the next grift.