Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 5 eyes country?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:08 pm Holy crap. Been surfing Twitter the last couple days and oh man it doesn't disappoint.
Did you know that John Roberts was a buddy of Epstein's and has been getting blackmailed by a 5 eyes country before he was a Justice?
That and a guy pulled an HG Wells and posted this multiple tweet thread about how all Military have been activated, jets were scrambled, nationwide unrest, etc. Hilarious because you could tell he was kidding, but about 70% of the people believed him. Master Trolling.
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Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and the US.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:54 pmForgive my ignorance, but what is a 5 eyes country?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:08 pm Holy crap. Been surfing Twitter the last couple days and oh man it doesn't disappoint.
Did you know that John Roberts was a buddy of Epstein's and has been getting blackmailed by a 5 eyes country before he was a Justice?
That and a guy pulled an HG Wells and posted this multiple tweet thread about how all Military have been activated, jets were scrambled, nationwide unrest, etc. Hilarious because you could tell he was kidding, but about 70% of the people believed him. Master Trolling.
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I am shocked!
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/01/03/st ... -election/
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/01/03/st ... -election/
Still No Chain of Custody Documents Produced in Georgia for 76 Percent of Absentee Ballots Cast in Drop Boxes Two Months Ago in Presidential Election
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Tennessee Star? Sounds legit.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:18 am I am shocked!
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/01/03/st ... -election/
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Ah, the old Michael Mann deflection. How'd that work out for you?kalm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:50 amTennessee Star? Sounds legit.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:18 am I am shocked!
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/01/03/st ... -election/
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Quite well, actually.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:17 amAh, the old Michael Mann deflection. How'd that work out for you?
Are these the type of sources you select because they quickly fit your narrative and you simply don’t bother to verify?
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kalm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:49 amQuite well, actually.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:17 am
Ah, the old Michael Mann deflection. How'd that work out for you?
Are these the type of sources you select because they quickly fit your narrative and you simply don’t bother to verify?
If you bothered to read the article, they were referencing a records request from another site, for the counties in Georgia, in which they can under the law.
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Mann was vindicated. I won.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:06 amQuite well? You were proven to ignore the truth because you simply didn't like a sources name, even though that source simply posted court documents proving Mann had not provided data or methodology. Then Cid stepped in and verified you were wrong.
If you bothered to read the article, they were referencing a records request from the counties in Georgia, in which they can under the law.
I did read the article. Did you read their about page and source watch info? Those are the next places a one should go after reading a piece like that. One tell is a “news” site not linking to other articles or only linking to their own previous articles on the issue in a super duper slick case building information loop.
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Provide proof Mann won, because the Canadian court documents said otherwise. Better yet, how about a link to his data and methodology?kalm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:11 amMann was vindicated. I won.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:06 am
Quite well? You were proven to ignore the truth because you simply didn't like a sources name, even though that source simply posted court documents proving Mann had not provided data or methodology. Then Cid stepped in and verified you were wrong.
If you bothered to read the article, they were referencing a records request from the counties in Georgia, in which they can under the law.
I did read the article. Did you read their about page and source watch info? Those are the next places a one should go after reading a piece like that. One tell is a “news” site not linking to other articles or only linking to their own previous articles on the issue in a super duper slick case building information loop.![]()
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Already had this battle. I can produce a 2nd place trophy for you if you’d like.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:15 amProvide proof Mann won, because the Canadian court documents said otherwise. Better yet, how about a link to his data and methodology?kalm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:11 am
Mann was vindicated. I won.
I did read the article. Did you read their about page and source watch info? Those are the next places a one should go after reading a piece like that. One tell is a “news” site not linking to other articles or only linking to their own previous articles on the issue in a super duper slick case building information loop.![]()
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Way to back down.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:25 amAlready had this battle. I can produce a 2nd place trophy for you if you’d like.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:15 am
Provide proof Mann won, because the Canadian court documents said otherwise. Better yet, how about a link to his data and methodology?![]()
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I’d forgotten about the Canadian court argument until you mentioned it. Without looking at the thread, I’m now positive I won.
Don’t be a sore loser. The 2nd place trophy I’m looking at is really nice!
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To even find it necessary to do this indicates a serious concern. They too are apparently shocked by how bat shit crazy the cult is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived.
Given these factors, particularly at a time when U.S. forces are engaged in active operations around the world, it is all the more imperative that the transition at the Defense Department be carried out fully, cooperatively and transparently. Acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller and his subordinates — political appointees, officers and civil servants — are each bound by oath, law and precedent to facilitate the entry into office of the incoming administration, and to do so wholeheartedly. They must also refrain from any political actions that undermine the results of the election or hinder the success of the new team.
We call upon them, in the strongest terms, to do as so many generations of Americans have done before them. This final action is in keeping with the highest traditions and professionalism of the U.S. armed forces, and the history of democratic transition in our great country.
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If I were Kevin Mccarthy, after Pelosi brought COVID positive Reps in to vote today, I would require all reps to get tested and bank on false positives and then blame it all on Pelosi. 
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“The egregious ploy to reject electors may enhance the political ambition of some, but dangerously threatens our Democratic Republic. The congressional power to reject electors is reserved for the most extreme and unusual circumstances. These are far from it. More Americans participated in this election than ever before, and they made their choice. President Trump’s lawyers made their case before scores of courts; in every instance, they failed. The Justice Department found no evidence of irregularity sufficient to overturn the election. The Presidential Voter Fraud Commission disbanded without finding such evidence.
“My fellow Senator Ted Cruz and the co-signers of his statement argue that rejection of electors or an election audit directed by Congress would restore trust in the election. Nonsense. This argument ignores the widely perceived reality that Congress is an overwhelmingly partisan body; the American people wisely place greater trust in the federal courts where judges serve for life. Members of Congress who would substitute their own partisan judgement for that of the courts do not enhance public trust, they imperil it.
“Were Congress to actually reject state electors, partisans would inevitably demand the same any time their candidate had lost. Congress, not voters in the respective states, would choose our presidents.
“Adding to this ill-conceived endeavor by some in Congress is the President’s call for his supporters to come to the Capitol on the day when this matter is to be debated and decided. This has the predictable potential to lead to disruption, and worse.
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“My fellow Senator Ted Cruz and the co-signers of his statement argue that rejection of electors or an election audit directed by Congress would restore trust in the election. Nonsense. This argument ignores the widely perceived reality that Congress is an overwhelmingly partisan body; the American people wisely place greater trust in the federal courts where judges serve for life. Members of Congress who would substitute their own partisan judgement for that of the courts do not enhance public trust, they imperil it.
“Were Congress to actually reject state electors, partisans would inevitably demand the same any time their candidate had lost. Congress, not voters in the respective states, would choose our presidents.
“Adding to this ill-conceived endeavor by some in Congress is the President’s call for his supporters to come to the Capitol on the day when this matter is to be debated and decided. This has the predictable potential to lead to disruption, and worse.
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Listened to the audio clip last night of Trump’s phone call.
Holy shit balls. Dude really is a two bit thug wannabe mob boss. 25th amendment now please.
(Also happens to be his best argument in criminal proceedings).
Holy shit balls. Dude really is a two bit thug wannabe mob boss. 25th amendment now please.
(Also happens to be his best argument in criminal proceedings).
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You got it all wrong. This was a perfect phone call.
Just because Trump is begging (like a bitch) for Georgia to find enough votes to overturn an election doesn't mean Trump is doing anything wrong.
Just because Trump is using coercion as a tactic, doesn't mean Trump is doing anything wrong.
Trump is the good guy here. He only cares about the integrity of our elections and nothing more. It's not like him and the GOP are attempting a coup or anything like that.
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Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:46 amYou got it all wrong. This was a perfect phone call.
Just because Trump is begging (like a bitch) for Georgia to find enough votes to overturn an election doesn't mean Trump is doing anything wrong.
Just because Trump is using coercion as a tactic, doesn't mean Trump is doing anything wrong.
Trump is the good guy here. He only cares about the integrity of our elections and nothing more. It's not like him and the GOP are attempting a coup or anything like that.
Intentional or certifiable, he’s burning it all down on the way out. His congressional supporters are in a tight spot to say the least and you know there’s talk going on right now among the faithful on how to save the party.
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I read the transcript. Hardly a two bit thug. In fact I was stunned at how uncooperative Georgia has been.
Trump would make a claim, Raffensberger would refute it by saying they had investigated, and when Trump would ask for a copy of the report, they wouldn't provide it.
My understanding is the meeting was to try and reconcile differences before it goes to court.
Trump's lawyer admitted they did the best they could, but that the Georgia SOS had better information. Every time Trump's lawyers asked for the information so they could take out any mistakes from their claims, Raffensberger declined to give them that information.
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Listen to the audio or STFU.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:03 amI read the transcript. Hardly a two bit thug. In fact I was stunned at how uncooperative Georgia has been.
Trump would make a claim, Raffensberger would refute it by saying they had investigated, and when Trump would ask for a copy of the report, they wouldn't provide it.
My understanding is the meeting was to try and reconcile differences before it goes to court.
Trump's lawyer admitted they did the best they could, but that the Georgia SOS had better information. Every time Trump's lawyers asked for the information so they could take out any mistakes from their claims, Raffensberger declined to give them that information.
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More on the conspiracy side. Italy was involved in trying to sway the election. Defense firm Leonardo.
Surprising how many Italian papers are covering this.
Surprising how many Italian papers are covering this.
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I read the transcript and am taking the interpretation of a former federal prosecutor who listened to it and gave his interpretation. I trust his version more than yours.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:05 amListen to the audio or STFU.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:03 am
I read the transcript. Hardly a two bit thug. In fact I was stunned at how uncooperative Georgia has been.
Trump would make a claim, Raffensberger would refute it by saying they had investigated, and when Trump would ask for a copy of the report, they wouldn't provide it.
My understanding is the meeting was to try and reconcile differences before it goes to court.
Trump's lawyer admitted they did the best they could, but that the Georgia SOS had better information. Every time Trump's lawyers asked for the information so they could take out any mistakes from their claims, Raffensberger declined to give them that information.You’re not old enough to claim crazy uncle status...yet.
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Rudy?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:10 amI read the transcript and am taking the advice of a former federal prosecutor who listened to it and gave his interpretation. I trust his version more than yours.
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No. He writes under a psuedonym, but has always been the voice of reason. His articles have always put the skids on crazy Conk talk, especially about the intelligence community.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:12 amRudy?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:10 am
I read the transcript and am taking the advice of a former federal prosecutor who listened to it and gave his interpretation. I trust his version more than yours.
He too thought Trump was wrong when he first heard the headlines and then when he listened to it, he obviously changed his mind.
Like I was saying, he said it was a meeting between the two to try and resolve issues before it goes to court.
When it does go to court, the Trump team will get the information they asked for.
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