Cancel Culture thread

[SDHornet]

But according to you, drunk driving is okay, sex with minors is cool, and private businesses deciding not to serve people based on their race is fine. But you draw the line at people who support Trump. I'm not sure you're the poster child for the SJW crowd.

The phenomenon by which people support Trump is the same as that which led to Hitler and Mussolini gaining power during the 20th Century. It's very bad. We just had a guy try to subvert our system of representative government. And it's been obvious for years now that he is the type that would do something like that.

People who support Trump are way more dangerous to you and me than people who drive with a 0.08 BAC are. They are way more dangerous than a 21 year old guy who has sex with a 16 year old girl. They are way more dangerous than someone who refuses to associate with someone else based on race but otherwise minds their own business.

You shilled for a group that was founded by a dude that groomed young boys. But sure, try and spin it as a 21 yo banging a 16 yo.

[AZGrizFan]

Wow I didn't even know exactly what "cancel culture" is until I looked up the definition yesterday and got this:

Cancel culture (or call-out culture) is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles - either online on social media, in the real world, or both. Those who are subject to this ostracism are said to be "canceled."

I like it. That's what I've been saying needs to be done to anyone found to be a Trump supporter. They need to be ostracized. Social outcasts. Lose their jobs and professions. That sort of thing.

How “libertarian” of you. You’ve gone full retard, FFS.

[UNI88]

But according to you, drunk driving is okay, sex with minors is cool, and private businesses deciding not to serve people based on their race is fine. But you draw the line at people who support Trump. I'm not sure you're the poster child for the SJW crowd.

The phenomenon by which people support Trump is the same as that which led to Hitler and Mussolini gaining power during the 20th Century. It's very bad. We just had a guy try to subvert our system of representative government. And it's been obvious for years now that he is the type that would do something like that.

People who support Trump are way more dangerous to you and me than people who drive with a 0.08 BAC are. They are way more dangerous than a 21 year old guy who has sex with a 16 year old girl. They are way more dangerous than someone who refuses to associate with someone else based on race but otherwise minds their own business.

"You are a CS.com treasure" JSO!

[JohnStOnge]

Wow I didn't even know exactly what "cancel culture" is until I looked up the definition yesterday and got this:



I like it. That's what I've been saying needs to be done to anyone found to be a Trump supporter. They need to be ostracized. Social outcasts. Lose their jobs and professions. That sort of thing.

How “libertarian” of you. You’ve gone full retard, FFS.

This is not inconsistent with Libertarianism. This is not government taking action against people for being Trump supporters. It is about that majority of the society that sees Trump support as unacceptable choosing to ostracize Trump supporters. If an employer finds out someone is a Trump supporter, they are free to fire them. Completely libertarian. If someone having a party (after COVID) finds out someone is a Trump supporter, they are free not to invite them. Completely libertarian. If someone finds out that a business owner is a Trump supporter, they are free not to do business with them. Completely libertarian.

And that's what should happen. Trump support should be viewed in the same way as belonging to the Ku Klux Klan is. That person is a pariah socially. Nothing contrary to being a Libertarian about that.

[SDHornet]

Ostracize 75M people. What could go wrong?

Full retard indeed.

[HI54UNI]

But according to you, drunk driving is okay, sex with minors is cool, and private businesses deciding not to serve people based on their race is fine. But you draw the line at people who support Trump. I'm not sure you're the poster child for the SJW crowd.

The phenomenon by which people support Trump is the same as that which led to Hitler and Mussolini gaining power during the 20th Century. It's very bad. We just had a guy try to subvert our system of representative government. And it's been obvious for years now that he is the type that would do something like that.

People who support Trump are way more dangerous to you and me than people who drive with a 0.08 BAC are. They are way more dangerous than a 21 year old guy who has sex with a 16 year old girl. They are way more dangerous than someone who refuses to associate with someone else based on race but otherwise minds their own business.

[kalm]

The phenomenon by which people support Trump is the same as that which led to Hitler and Mussolini gaining power during the 20th Century. It's very bad. We just had a guy try to subvert our system of representative government. And it's been obvious for years now that he is the type that would do something like that.

People who support Trump are way more dangerous to you and me than people who drive with a 0.08 BAC are. They are way more dangerous than a 21 year old guy who has sex with a 16 year old girl. They are way more dangerous than someone who refuses to associate with someone else based on race but otherwise minds their own business.

"You are a CS.com treasure" JSO!

Ha! That he is!

[kalm]

The phenomenon by which people support Trump is the same as that which led to Hitler and Mussolini gaining power during the 20th Century. It's very bad. We just had a guy try to subvert our system of representative government. And it's been obvious for years now that he is the type that would do something like that.

People who support Trump are way more dangerous to you and me than people who drive with a 0.08 BAC are. They are way more dangerous than a 21 year old guy who has sex with a 16 year old girl. They are way more dangerous than someone who refuses to associate with someone else based on race but otherwise minds their own business.

COD approves!

[BDKJMU]

If 47% of the electorate were fired from their jobs, the country would collapse. Any more brilliant ideas?

47% won’t be fired but ostracism is already occurring from families, friends, business relationships, jobs...It will take years to unravel.

Along with the ensuing restored faith in institutions and government, it’s a hallmark of crisis periods.

And a lot of the 47% are sticking together ostracizing the 53%. The ostracism goes both ways.

[AZGrizFan]

How “libertarian” of you. You’ve gone full retard, FFS.

This is not inconsistent with Libertarianism. This is not government taking action against people for being Trump supporters. It is about that majority of the society that sees Trump support as unacceptable choosing to ostracize Trump supporters. If an employer finds out someone is a Trump supporter, they are free to fire them. Completely libertarian. If someone having a party (after COVID) finds out someone is a Trump supporter, they are free not to invite them. Completely libertarian. If someone finds out that a business owner is a Trump supporter, they are free not to do business with them. Completely libertarian.

And that's what should happen. Trump support should be viewed in the same way as belonging to the Ku Klux Klan is. That person is a pariah socially. Nothing contrary to being a Libertarian about that.

It is ENTIRELY against libertarianism and watching your mental gymnastics to try and justify such a dystopian solution to a group that thinks differently than you would be comical if it wasn’t so fucking frightening.

[Ibanez]

Wow I didn't even know exactly what "cancel culture" is until I looked up the definition yesterday and got this:

Cancel culture (or call-out culture) is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles - either online on social media, in the real world, or both. Those who are subject to this ostracism are said to be "canceled."

I like it. That's what I've been saying needs to be done to anyone found to be a Trump supporter. They need to be ostracized. Social outcasts. Lose their jobs and professions. That sort of thing.

JFC. You are so on the wrong side of history. I won't pile on b/c BDK, SD, AZ and Gannon have already said it perfectly.

[kalm]

47% won’t be fired but ostracism is already occurring from families, friends, business relationships, jobs...It will take years to unravel.

Along with the ensuing restored faith in institutions and government, it’s a hallmark of crisis periods.

And a lot of the 47% are sticking together ostracizing the 53%. The ostracism goes both ways.

Maybe 20% are true MAGA’s. Probably around the same number will at some point magically and/or completely disassociate from Trump. The rest are low information voters who don’t really care that much or just root for Team R. Think of them as casual fans at best or tag-alongs who don’t like politics or talking about it.

These numbers are just my estimates and will change over time depending on future activity...but the amount of people losing relationships because they openly hate Trump will be much smaller than those who openly supported Trump.

“He’s an asshole for not supporting Nixon”...said very few ever. Trump will be viewed as worse than Nixon.

[kalm]

Wow I didn't even know exactly what "cancel culture" is until I looked up the definition yesterday and got this:



I like it. That's what I've been saying needs to be done to anyone found to be a Trump supporter. They need to be ostracized. Social outcasts. Lose their jobs and professions. That sort of thing.

JFC. You are so on the wrong side of history. I won't pile on b/c BDK, SD, AZ and Gannon have already said it perfectly.

How is he on the wrong side of history?

[∞∞∞]

"Cancel culture" has been around since the dawn of man; I don't know why anyone thinks America is an exception to the rule. Every society in the history of forever shuns things it finds a threat to its principles (usually through social, economic, legal, or extrajudicial means).

The only major progress our Constitution made was enshrining freedom of speech as a right.

But we've been "cancelling" stuff since day one (minority groups will tell ya). What cancels gets changed with time, it differs with geography, cultures, governments, economic systems...but it's a fundamental survival instinct for a social species like ours.

[89Hen]

Every society in the history of forever shuns things it finds a threat to its principles

Like people that hate the Constitution.

[UNI88]

"Cancel culture" has been around since the dawn of man; I don't know why anyone thinks America is an exception to the rule. Every society in the history of forever shuns things it finds a threat to its principles (usually through social, economic, legal, or extrajudicial means).

The only major progress our Constitution made was enshrining freedom of speech as a right.

But we've been "cancelling" stuff since day one (minority groups will tell ya). What cancels gets changed with time, it differs with geography, cultures, governments, economic systems...but it's a fundamental survival instinct for a social species like ours.

I agree with your post except for the bolded. That is absolute baloney and you should be shunned for typing it.

[Ibanez]

JFC. You are so on the wrong side of history. I won't pile on b/c BDK, SD, AZ and Gannon have already said it perfectly.

How is he on the wrong side of history?

This goes beyond ignoring or excluding someone due to behavior or association. The Cancel Culture is meant to ostracize and punish anyone that doesn't live up to the Woke liberal agenda (that's my opinion). It's a purity movement.

You don't agree with my POV on gender then you're a bigot and i'm gonna dox you, threaten you and make you lose your job.


I don't associate with a sibling but i'm not going to say he should lose his job and suffer just because we disagree on things.

[Ibanez]

"Cancel culture" has been around since the dawn of man; I don't know why anyone thinks America is an exception to the rule. Every society in the history of forever shuns things it finds a threat to its principles (usually through social, economic, legal, or extrajudicial means).

The only major progress our Constitution made was enshrining freedom of speech as a right.

But we've been "cancelling" stuff since day one (minority groups will tell ya). What cancels gets changed with time, it differs with geography, cultures, governments, economic systems...but it's a fundamental survival instinct for a social species like ours.

This goes beyond shunning the village pervert. This is threatening, trying to get you fired and make sure you can't survive b/c you like guns and I don't (or you believe in 2 genders and I don't). I think it goes beyond just avoiding people in society.

[kalm]

How is he on the wrong side of history?

This goes beyond ignoring or excluding someone due to behavior or association. The Cancel Culture is meant to ostracize and punish anyone that doesn't live up to the Woke liberal agenda (that's my opinion). It's a purity movement.

You don't agree with my POV on gender then you're a bigot and i'm gonna dox you, threaten you and make you lose your job.


I don't associate with a sibling but i'm not going to say he should lose his job and suffer just because we disagree on things.

Gotcha.

Cancel culture isn’t a movement. It’s a reaction to societal changes.

Not sure that makes JSO on the wrong side of history though.

[Ibanez]

This goes beyond ignoring or excluding someone due to behavior or association. The Cancel Culture is meant to ostracize and punish anyone that doesn't live up to the Woke liberal agenda (that's my opinion). It's a purity movement.

You don't agree with my POV on gender then you're a bigot and i'm gonna dox you, threaten you and make you lose your job.


I don't associate with a sibling but i'm not going to say he should lose his job and suffer just because we disagree on things.

Gotcha.

Cancel culture isn’t a movement. It’s a reaction to societal changes.

Not sure that makes JSO on the wrong side of history though.

Going after someone and their livelihood because they are Republican (or Democrat) isn't going to end well.

Again, this isn't about shunning someone like Charles Manson or some crazy cult leader who is a danger to others. Today's cancel culture is about shunning BDK on the fact that he voted for Trump. We shouldn't be shunning people b/c they make bad decisions.

[BDKJMU]

And a lot of the 47% are sticking together ostracizing the 53%. The ostracism goes both ways.

Maybe 20% are true MAGA’s. Probably around the same number will at some point magically and/or completely disassociate from Trump. The rest are low information voters who don’t really care that much or just root for Team R. Think of them as casual fans at best or tag-alongs who don’t like politics or talking about it.

These numbers are just my estimates and will change over time depending on future activity...but the amount of people losing relationships because they openly hate Trump will be much smaller than those who openly supported Trump.

“He’s an asshole for not supporting Nixon”...said very few ever. Trump will be viewed as worse than Nixon.

#1. 20% of the electorate? I would agree.
# 2. 20% of the 47% (<10%)? I think its more like #1.

The people losing relationships goes both ways. One person doesn't lose a relationship. If you have 1 MAGA and 9 TDSers, or 9 MAGAs, and 1 TDSer, and they no longer associate with each other, that's 10 people losing a relationship.

And I think there's just as many overwhelmingly MAGA groups, as there are overwhelmingly TDS groups..

[BDKJMU]

Gotcha.

Cancel culture isn’t a movement. It’s a reaction to societal changes.

Not sure that makes JSO on the wrong side of history though.

Going after someone and their livelihood because they are Republican (or Democrat) isn't going to end well.

Again, this isn't about shunning someone like Charles Manson or some crazy cult leader who is a danger to others. Today's cancel culture is about shunning BDK on the fact that he voted for Trump. We shouldn't be shunning people b/c they make bad decisions.

Well thanks...
And

[Ibanez]

Going after someone and their livelihood because they are Republican (or Democrat) isn't going to end well.

Again, this isn't about shunning someone like Charles Manson or some crazy cult leader who is a danger to others. Today's cancel culture is about shunning BDK on the fact that he voted for Trump. We shouldn't be shunning people b/c they make bad decisions.

Well thanks...
And

You're welcome, big guy.

[AZGrizFan]

here's the beauty of it. In my family (10 siblings) there are six conservatives, three TDS'ers and 1 agnostic. Dad and mom are conservative. 23 nieces and nephews, most of whom (with three-five marginal exceptions) are huge TDS'ers/socialists.

If I never speak to the three TDS'ers again, I'm fine with that. If I don't have a relationship with my nieces and nephews, I'm fine with that. I've been called every name you can imagine by them in the past four years...

Turns out, you CAN pick your family....they've chosen to block me, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

[Pwns]

Every grown person I know who grew up in a real large family (granted not all that many) has 1 or 2 siblings they're real close to and 1 or 2 they have little contact with with the rest being in the middle. It's not that hard for me (not someone from a big family) to fathom, honestly.