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BDKJMU wrote:I just saw that one of the donk impeachment managers is no other than Eric Swallwell from the House intel committee, who was caught banging a Chinese spy, and who still peddles the Trump/Russia colusion hoax. Lawl, you can’t make this shit up.. :lol:
1) they were not banging. Didn’t Trumps FBI clear him?
2) most Republicans are still peddling the Stolen Election hoax.

You’re so partisan. Come to the center a bit. We’ve got punch and pie.


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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:33 pm So you got nothing.
Nor do you..
You answered a question with a question. Maybe you should attempt to disprove the fact that Trump is a serial liar. Otherwise, you’re no better than any lefty that can’t answer hard truths about their own party and it’s leaders.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:39 pm
Those clips are unbelievable. No rioter at least inside that building should see less than 20 and many should get life.

It’s sad that the seriousness of that day is being under-appreciated. :ohno:

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kalm wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:39 pm
Those clips are unbelievable. No rioter at least inside that building should see less than 20 and many should get life.

It’s sad that the seriousness of that day is being under-appreciated. :ohno:

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I think at best Trump has accomplice liability for the actions of Jan 6. His words and actions inspired and encouraged the riot. If you think otherwise, then I really don't know what to say. You're just ignoring the obvious and are being intellectually dishonest.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:22 am
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am

Those clips are unbelievable. No rioter at least inside that building should see less than 20 and many should get life.

It’s sad that the seriousness of that day is being under-appreciated. :ohno:

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I think at best Trump has accomplice liability for the actions of Jan 6. His words and actions inspired and encouraged the riot. If you think otherwise, then I really don't know what to say. You're just ignoring the obvious and are being intellectually dishonest.
If you think the below words:
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
inspired and encouraged the riot, then I really don't know what to say. You're just being intellectually dishonest.
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As Trump faces trial in the Senate on charges that he incited the Jan. 6 insurrection, a lawyer for the Proud Boy, Dominic Pezzola, filed a memo in federal court in Washington on Wednesday making an argument Democrats have stressed repeatedly in the impeachment proceedings: that the riot was the culmination of weeks of conspiracies and misinformation spread by the president to overturn the election results.


When he stormed the Capitol, Pezzola was responding to “the entreaties of the then commander in chief, President Trump,” according to the filing by lawyer Jonathan Zucker. “Defendant did not act out of criminal intent but out of conscience, albeit a frighteningly confused and distorted sense of conscience.”
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:51 am
As Trump faces trial in the Senate on charges that he incited the Jan. 6 insurrection, a lawyer for the Proud Boy, Dominic Pezzola, filed a memo in federal court in Washington on Wednesday making an argument Democrats have stressed repeatedly in the impeachment proceedings: that the riot was the culmination of weeks of conspiracies and misinformation spread by the president to overturn the election results.


When he stormed the Capitol, Pezzola was responding to “the entreaties of the then commander in chief, President Trump,” according to the filing by lawyer Jonathan Zucker. “Defendant did not act out of criminal intent but out of conscience, albeit a frighteningly confused and distorted sense of conscience.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing

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So 1 guy. I'm sure the donks will trot out a few others, too, who make the same/similar claim. Out of 800 or so who entered the Capitol Bldg. Out of hundreds of thousands in DC for the rally.
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kalm wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:39 pm
Those clips are unbelievable. No rioter at least inside that building should see less than 20 and many should get life.

It’s sad that the seriousness of that day is being under-appreciated. :ohno:

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yeah. I mean, Romney almost DIED right there. Horrific, certainly. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:22 am
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am

Those clips are unbelievable. No rioter at least inside that building should see less than 20 and many should get life.

It’s sad that the seriousness of that day is being under-appreciated. :ohno:

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yeah. I mean, Romney almost DIED right there. Horrific, certainly. :coffee:
Have you watched the videos? What were they going to do if they had caught Romney, Pelosi, or Pence? Use loud voices to overturn the election results?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:17 am
So 1 guy. I'm sure the donks will trot out a few others, too, who make the same/similar claim. Out of 800 or so who entered the Capitol Bldg. Out of hundreds of thousands in DC for the rally.
No, there are others who have admitted such in court.

Words and actions have consequences.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:43 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:17 am
So 1 guy. I'm sure the donks will trot out a few others, too, who make the same/similar claim. Out of 800 or so who entered the Capitol Bldg. Out of hundreds of thousands in DC for the rally.
No, there are others who have admitted such in court.

Words and actions have consequences.
Like I said. A handful. Out of hundreds of thousands who attended the rally.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:02 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:43 am
No, there are others who have admitted such in court.

Words and actions have consequences.
Like I said. A handful. Out of hundreds of thousands who attended the rally.
You sound like the liberals defending the "mostly peaceful" BLM/AnTiFa riots because only a handful of protesters were violent.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:02 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:43 am

No, there are others who have admitted such in court.

Words and actions have consequences.
Like I said. A handful. Out of hundreds of thousands who attended the rally.
Question - was the permit for the Rally to be at the Capitol? Were they permitted to push and shove the police? Vandalize a building? Ransack offices? Beat up police officers? Were those boxes chanced on the application?

And don't give me the " a handful" bullshit. You routinely paint every liberal, every Democrat with a broad brush.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:41 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:02 pm
Like I said. A handful. Out of hundreds of thousands who attended the rally.
Question - was the permit for the Rally to be at the Capitol? Were they permitted to push and shove the police? Vandalize a building? Ransack offices? Beat up police officers? Were those boxes chanced on the application?

And don't give me the " a handful" bullshit. You routinely paint every liberal, every Democrat with a broad brush.
And there's no evidene that Trump incited any of that.
-FBI said was planned days beforehand.
-It started before Trump finished speaking.
-In Trumps entire 1 hr, 13 min speech, the only comments he said in regards to the Capital were:
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/do ... -january-6
So where's the incitement to go storm the Capitol Building?

Nothing Trump said or did comes even close to convictable incitement in a real court, and it doesn't in this kangaroo court either..
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:43 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:41 pm

Question - was the permit for the Rally to be at the Capitol? Were they permitted to push and shove the police? Vandalize a building? Ransack offices? Beat up police officers? Were those boxes chanced on the application?

And don't give me the " a handful" bullshit. You routinely paint every liberal, every Democrat with a broad brush.
And there's no evidene that Trump incited any of that.
-FBI said was planned days beforehand.
-It started before Trump finished speaking.
-In Trumps entire 1 hr, 13 min speech, the only comments he said in regards to the Capital were:
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/do ... -january-6
So where's the incitement to go storm the Capitol Building?

Nothing Trump said or did comes even close to convictable incitement in a real court, and it doesn't in this kangaroo court either..
You can read his own tweets and hear his speeches. If you don't believe that those words and actions could INSPIRE someone to act, then you're a fool. He had already given tacit approval to violence by his supporters (Charlottesville, Million MAGA Marches). He told them you have to strength and fight.

"You have to fight like hell or won't have a country anymore." Saying that to amped up supporters that believe the election was stolen and the country is in danger is dangerous.

"When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules." you don't see how someone can take that as approval from the Commander in Chief? There are tweets, indictments, interviews of people that were at the Rally and part of the riot that said just that. They were following Trump's orders.

We have to be accountable for our words and actions. Otherwise, I can avoid trouble if someone hears me say I wish Person X would get beaten and then that person then goes and does it.

You're just ignoring a hard truth. Trumps actions and words over the past several months inspired people to act on his behalf. I don't see how you can say otherwise.


Oh, to your question
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And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol
, and we're going to try and give.
If you don't see his past conduct as a provocation, then I don't know what more to say.
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I don't think they was any way House managers were going to get at least 17 members of what is now the totally corrupt Republican Party to vote to make sure the country is spared future damage by Trump anyway, but I think they should have spent less time with the emotional stuff about how bad the incident was and more time making the case that Trump caused it.

Any reasonable person knows that he was a critical factor. Without his behavior it would not have happened. He started off by saying, prior the election, that the only way Biden would win is if there was fraud when that was obviously a ridiculous statement to make. Various State and Federal agencies charged with monitoring such things unanimously concluded that there was not an issue. He had numerous opportunities in court and did a face plant.

He's head of the Executive Branch. He's got access to the best information from various agencies and that information said there wasn't a fraud issue. Yet he persisted in claiming there was this ridiculous degree of fraud and he actually won while knowing it would inflame the situation.

He did things like say to his followers at rallies, "You can't let that happen." This was after the votes were all certified, etc. So what are his followers supposed to do at that point? "You can't let that happen." How are they going to keep that from happening? The election is over. The votes have been certified. The Electoral College has spoken. What remains as recourse?

That sort of thing. Focus on the obvious reality that Trump caused what happened through behavior that is totally intolerable.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:05 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:43 pm
And there's no evidene that Trump incited any of that.
-FBI said was planned days beforehand.
-It started before Trump finished speaking.
-In Trumps entire 1 hr, 13 min speech, the only comments he said in regards to the Capital were:

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/do ... -january-6
So where's the incitement to go storm the Capitol Building?

Nothing Trump said or did comes even close to convictable incitement in a real court, and it doesn't in this kangaroo court either..
You can read his own tweets and hear his speeches. If you don't believe that those words and actions could INSPIRE someone to act, then you're a fool. He had already given tacit approval to violence by his supporters (Charlottesville, Million MAGA Marches). He told them you have to strength and fight.

"You have to fight like hell or won't have a country anymore." Saying that to amped up supporters that believe the election was stolen and the country is in danger is dangerous.

"When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules." you don't see how someone can take that as approval from the Commander in Chief? There are tweets, indictments, interviews of people that were at the Rally and part of the riot that said just that. They were following Trump's orders.

We have to be accountable for our words and actions. Otherwise, I can avoid trouble if someone hears me say I wish Person X would get beaten and then that person then goes and does it.

You're just ignoring a hard truth. Trumps actions and words over the past several months inspired people to act on his behalf. I don't see how you can say otherwise.

Oh, to your question
And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol
, and we're going to try and give.
If you don't see his past conduct as a provocation, then I don't know what more to say.
So what? Saying democrats are terrible "could inspire" someone to do something. That doesn't mean that saying "democrats are terrible" makes you guilty of anything.

-James Hodgkinson was allegedly inspired by Bernie Sanders to go on his shooting spree. Should Sander's have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Nancy Pelosi
*2017 on Trump: “I’m counting down the hours ‘til he’s gone. I plan to pull him out of there by his hair, his little hands and his feet."
*2018 Called for uprisings against the Trump admin.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/m ... n-n1321409
Should Nancy Pelosi have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Maxine Waters incited the very definition of mob violence. "Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out, and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.". Should Maxine Waters have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Cory Booker incited violence when he called for his supporters to go to the Hill today. “go to the Hill today. Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople". Should Corey Booker have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Gov Cuomo on Trump: “He better have an army if he thinks he’s gonna walk down the street in New York. New Yorkers don’t want to have anything to do with him. He can’t have enough bodyguards to walk through New York City.” Should Cuomo have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Chuck Schumer threatening violence against 2 SCOTUS justices: “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” Should Shumer have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Rep Rep. Ayanna Pressley: "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives and unfortunately there’s plenty to go around." Should Pressley have been impeached for inciting violence?

-VP Harris on the BLANTIFA riots: “They’re not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they’re not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not,”. Should Harris have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Sen Kaine called for liberals to “fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box” against Trump and his supporters. Should Kaine have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Obama back in 2008 told rally goers in regards to their Republican neighbors: "I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Or in 2012 in Philly: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl". Should Obama have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Biden this past year: On Trump “I would have “beat the hell out” and "would slap in the mouth" . Should Biden be impeached for inciting violence?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... the-mouth/
https://defconnews.com/2021/01/11/all-t ... impeached/
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/s ... ma-n863918

I could go on and on and on...Bottom line Trump said "peacefully protest". Nowhere did he say "go storm the Capitol". If you think that makes him guilty in this kangaroo court, when literally dozens of donks, have been doing the same, or worse, for years, then you're a fool.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:05 pm

You can read his own tweets and hear his speeches. If you don't believe that those words and actions could INSPIRE someone to act, then you're a fool. He had already given tacit approval to violence by his supporters (Charlottesville, Million MAGA Marches). He told them you have to strength and fight.

"You have to fight like hell or won't have a country anymore." Saying that to amped up supporters that believe the election was stolen and the country is in danger is dangerous.

"When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules." you don't see how someone can take that as approval from the Commander in Chief? There are tweets, indictments, interviews of people that were at the Rally and part of the riot that said just that. They were following Trump's orders.

We have to be accountable for our words and actions. Otherwise, I can avoid trouble if someone hears me say I wish Person X would get beaten and then that person then goes and does it.

You're just ignoring a hard truth. Trumps actions and words over the past several months inspired people to act on his behalf. I don't see how you can say otherwise.

Oh, to your question



If you don't see his past conduct as a provocation, then I don't know what more to say.
So what? Saying democrats are terrible "could inspire" someone to do something. That doesn't mean that saying "democrats are terrible" makes you guilty of anything.

-James Hodgkinson was allegedly inspired by Bernie Sanders to go on his shooting spree. Should Sander's have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Nancy Pelosi
*2017 on Trump: “I’m counting down the hours ‘til he’s gone. I plan to pull him out of there by his hair, his little hands and his feet."
*2018 Called for uprisings against the Trump admin.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/m ... n-n1321409
Should Nancy Pelosi have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Maxine Waters incited the very definition of mob violence. "Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out, and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.". Should Maxine Waters have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Cory Booker incited violence when he called for his supporters to go to the Hill today. “go to the Hill today. Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople". Should Corey Booker have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Gov Cuomo on Trump: “He better have an army if he thinks he’s gonna walk down the street in New York. New Yorkers don’t want to have anything to do with him. He can’t have enough bodyguards to walk through New York City.” Should Cuomo have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Chuck Schumer threatening violence against 2 SCOTUS justices: “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” Should Shumer have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Rep Rep. Ayanna Pressley: "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives and unfortunately there’s plenty to go around." Should Pressley have been impeached for inciting violence?

-VP Harris on the BLANTIFA riots: “They’re not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they’re not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not,”. Should Harris have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Sen Kaine called for liberals to “fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box” against Trump and his supporters. Should Kaine have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Obama back in 2008 told rally goers in regards to their Republican neighbors: "I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Or in 2012 in Philly: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl". Should Obama have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Biden this past year: On Trump “I would have “beat the hell out” and "would slap in the mouth" . Should Biden be impeached for inciting violence?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... the-mouth/
https://defconnews.com/2021/01/11/all-t ... impeached/
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/s ... ma-n863918

I could go on and on and on...Bottom line Trump said "peacefully protest". Nowhere did he say "go storm the Capitol". If you think that makes him guilty in this kangaroo court, when literally dozens of donks, have been doing the same, or worse, for years, then you're a fool.
he also said to fight. Again - why are you ignoring his words? You’re cherry picking to suit your perspective. That’s dishonest.


Here’s the difference between you and I - I have no problem saying If a crime was perpetrated because Pelosi inspired the action then she should account for it. I’m not saying prison but she should be held to account for the power of her words. You lack the testicular fortitude.


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Finally got a little time to review this. Gotta agree with everyone else who has been paying attention. It's over. Trump's going to gain more popularity already above his rock star status and Dems will continue to step on their own dicks.

When will the Left realize lifelong politicians are losers? It takes a total blowhard like Trump to come in, get shit done and then leave unscathed.

If I was the Left, I'd quit talking about Trump, because it simply affirms how they got their ass handed to them from a guy who pretty much went it solo.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:17 pm Finally got a little time to review this. Gotta agree with everyone else who has been paying attention. It's over. Trump's going to gain more popularity already above his rock star status and Dems will continue to step on their own dicks.

When will the Left realize lifelong politicians are losers? It takes a total blowhard like Trump to come in, get shit done and then leave unscathed.

If I was the Left, I'd quit talking about Trump, because it simply affirms how they got their ass handed to them from a guy who pretty much went it solo.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: So what? Saying democrats are terrible "could inspire" someone to do something. That doesn't mean that saying "democrats are terrible" makes you guilty of anything.

-James Hodgkinson was allegedly inspired by Bernie Sanders to go on his shooting spree. Should Sander's have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Nancy Pelosi
*2017 on Trump: “I’m counting down the hours ‘til he’s gone. I plan to pull him out of there by his hair, his little hands and his feet."
*2018 Called for uprisings against the Trump admin.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/m ... n-n1321409
Should Nancy Pelosi have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Maxine Waters incited the very definition of mob violence. "Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out, and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.". Should Maxine Waters have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Cory Booker incited violence when he called for his supporters to go to the Hill today. “go to the Hill today. Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople". Should Corey Booker have been impeached with inciting violence?

-Gov Cuomo on Trump: “He better have an army if he thinks he’s gonna walk down the street in New York. New Yorkers don’t want to have anything to do with him. He can’t have enough bodyguards to walk through New York City.” Should Cuomo have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Chuck Schumer threatening violence against 2 SCOTUS justices: “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” Should Shumer have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Rep Rep. Ayanna Pressley: "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives and unfortunately there’s plenty to go around." Should Pressley have been impeached for inciting violence?

-VP Harris on the BLANTIFA riots: “They’re not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they’re not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not,”. Should Harris have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Sen Kaine called for liberals to “fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box” against Trump and his supporters. Should Kaine have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Obama back in 2008 told rally goers in regards to their Republican neighbors: "I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Or in 2012 in Philly: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl". Should Obama have been impeached for inciting violence?

-Biden this past year: On Trump “I would have “beat the hell out” and "would slap in the mouth" . Should Biden be impeached for inciting violence?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... the-mouth/
https://defconnews.com/2021/01/11/all-t ... impeached/
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/s ... ma-n863918

I could go on and on and on...Bottom line Trump said "peacefully protest". Nowhere did he say "go storm the Capitol". If you think that makes him guilty in this kangaroo court, when literally dozens of donks, have been doing the same, or worse, for years, then you're a fool.
he also said to fight. Again - why are you ignoring his words? You’re cherry picking to suit your perspective. That’s dishonest.


Here’s the difference between you and I - I have no problem saying If a crime was perpetrated because Pelosi inspired the action then she should account for it. I’m not saying prison but she should be held to account for the power of her words. You lack the testicular fortitude.


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Everytime someone utters the word "fight" they don't mean physical violence.
You don't know jack about testicular fortitude..
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:46 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 pm he also said to fight. Again - why are you ignoring his words? You’re cherry picking to suit your perspective. That’s dishonest.

Here’s the difference between you and I - I have no problem saying If a crime was perpetrated because Pelosi inspired the action then she should account for it. I’m not saying prison but she should be held to account for the power of her words. You lack the testicular fortitude.

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Everytime someone utters the word "fight" they don't mean physical violence.
You don't know jack about testicular fortitude.
Neither does Ol' Bone Spurs.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:46 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 pm he also said to fight. Again - why are you ignoring his words? You’re cherry picking to suit your perspective. That’s dishonest.


Here’s the difference between you and I - I have no problem saying If a crime was perpetrated because Pelosi inspired the action then she should account for it. I’m not saying prison but she should be held to account for the power of her words. You lack the testicular fortitude.


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Everytime someone utters the word "fight" they don't mean physical violence.
You don't know jack about testicular fortitude..
True, not every time someone says the word fight that isn't the expected outcome. But when you have a powerful person, who is amping up supporters that are already known to be violent. When you are using proactive words and talking about the threats to their country, and you're calling them patriots and such. When you are being told by your own administration that these people are primed and ready and are dangerous.

When you take all that into consideration, the opportunity for disaster exists. Beyond a reasonable doubt, one can conclude that those supporters would engage in what they truly believed was a threat to their country.


It seems to me that you don't WANT to consider any other outcome. You aren't open to it, and probably because you're such an ardent supporter.



Edit - I know you don't have the guts to challenge your own opinions or accept hard truths. That's evident. It's as plain as the big, hook nose on my face.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:46 pm
Everytime someone utters the word "fight" they don't mean physical violence.
You don't know jack about testicular fortitude.
Neither does Ol' Bone Spurs.
Hell, even Hillary had the balls to show up to hearings. Trump has no balls. He's a gigantic pussy and we've known that since day 1. He has a massive, frail ego and is woefully insecure. He belittles people and bullies them.

If I acted that way, you all would have me on ignore. If you had an employee that acted that way, you'd fire them.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:46 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 pm he also said to fight. Again - why are you ignoring his words? You’re cherry picking to suit your perspective. That’s dishonest.


Here’s the difference between you and I - I have no problem saying If a crime was perpetrated because Pelosi inspired the action then she should account for it. I’m not saying prison but she should be held to account for the power of her words. You lack the testicular fortitude.


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Everytime someone utters the word "fight" they don't mean physical violence.
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Every time someone utters the words “stand down and stand ready” when referring to a terrorism organization they don’t mean physical violence.
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