2024 Primary

[SeattleGriz]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Would LOVE that ticket. I’ll apply to be Noem’s personal assistant.

No shit. So glad she carries herself well, and isn't just a pretty face.

[UNI88]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Would LOVE that ticket. I’ll apply to be Noem’s personal assistant.

That's the Palin Kiss of Death.

[kalm]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Two huge Trump loyalists. Neither very smart. Ted Cruz with less punchable faces.

[SeattleGriz]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Two huge Trump loyalists. Neither very smart. Ted Cruz with less punchable faces.

Not very smart. As opposed to which democratic genius you put up? DeSantis would tear you a new one like Idaho through the EWU defense.

[AZGrizFan]

Would LOVE that ticket. I’ll apply to be Noem’s personal assistant.

That's the Palin Kiss of Death.

[AZGrizFan]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Two huge Trump loyalists. Neither very smart. Ted Cruz with less punchable faces.

They would run circles around the plagerizer in chief and Blowme Harris.

[UNI88]

Two huge Trump loyalists. Neither very smart. Ted Cruz with less punchable faces.

They would run circles around the plagerizer in chief and Blowme Harris.

It will be a historic all female Democratic ticket in 2024 - Harris & Duckworth. You heard it here first (unless it doesn't happen and then I didn't proclaim it)

[kalm]

They would run circles around the plagerizer in chief and Blowme Harris.

It will be a historic all female Democratic ticket in 2024 - Harris & Duckworth. You heard it here first (unless it doesn't happen and then I didn't proclaim it)

Duckworth seems reasonable and earnest. Your thoughts? (more as a person than a presidential candidate).

[AZGrizFan]

It will be a historic all female Democratic ticket in 2024 - Harris & Duckworth. You heard it here first (unless it doesn't happen and then I didn't proclaim it)

Duckworth seems reasonable and earnest. Your thoughts? (more as a person than a presidential candidate).

Man, she checks a lot of boxes.

She is the first Thai American woman elected to Congress, the first person born in Thailand elected to Congress, the first woman with a disability elected to Congress, the first female double amputee in the Senate, and the first senator to give birth while in office.

[UNI88]

It will be a historic all female Democratic ticket in 2024 - Harris & Duckworth. You heard it here first (unless it doesn't happen and then I didn't proclaim it)

Duckworth seems reasonable and earnest. Your thoughts? (more as a person than a presidential candidate).

From what I know about her, I would agree with that assessment. She's a D that I would consider voting for.

[SeattleGriz]

It will be a historic all female Democratic ticket in 2024 - Harris & Duckworth. You heard it here first (unless it doesn't happen and then I didn't proclaim it)

Duckworth seems reasonable and earnest. Your thoughts? (more as a person than a presidential candidate).

I step up and say it. Duckworth is an idiot. If she would step out from her handlers and show us who she truly is, I could back her, but her bullshit veneer is fraught with donor money right now.

[houndawg]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

The Tinfoil Ticket!

[SeattleGriz]

DeSantis/Noem.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

The Tinfoil Ticket!

Of course, the liberal tropes will never go away. I also would expect DeSantis to be labeled stupid and racist, while attacking Noem with sexist attacks.

[HI54UNI]

It won't be Kristi Noem. There's dirt on her, like using the state owned airplane for personal trips. People in SD don't care but it won't play well on national news.

[AZGrizFan]

It won't be Kristi Noem. There's dirt on her, like using the state owned airplane for personal trips. People in SD don't care but it won't play well on national news.

Is THAT really enough these days? Honestly....

[Winterborn]

I hope she is. But I also don’t believe it’ll happen.

Her flip flopping on support for Trump shows that her character and integrity is similar to other politicians and former NYC property developers.

I would like to see someone who appears to have more character and spine. Someone like Sasse but the MAGAts would never go for him.

I used to like her and only slightly leaning away from voting for her (based on the last year) if she was on the ticket right now. Between her flip-flopping on other issues (not Trump) and her stances that align with large donor money contributions I am questioning her integrity.

For me the jury is still deliberating on Sasse. I don't trust any politician.

[Winterborn]

It won't be Kristi Noem. There's dirt on her, like using the state owned airplane for personal trips. People in SD don't care but it won't play well on national news.

She also has the ongoing flap with the local tribes that can easily be spun to paint her in a bad light.

[Ibanez]

We can post articles and speeches of every politician, including Trump, back pedaling or flip-flopping or whatever you want to call it. What's your point?

AZ already asked me what my point was, and I replied. Try to keep up.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 5#p1353385

You didn't answer my answer. Every politician flip-flops. What makes Haley different?


I suspect it has to do with she's moving on from Trump and the MAGAt crowd can't handle someone having an thought other than, " Trump is great!" MAGA has shown it doesn't tolerate anyone not towing the company line and ANYBODY that exercises any intellectual independence is a RINO, outcast, vilified, etc...

[Ibanez]

It won't be Kristi Noem. There's dirt on her, like using the state owned airplane for personal trips. People in SD don't care but it won't play well on national news.

Pssh. That's nothing.

[kalm]

Her flip flopping on support for Trump shows that her character and integrity is similar to other politicians and former NYC property developers.

I would like to see someone who appears to have more character and spine. Someone like Sasse but the MAGAts would never go for him.

I used to like her and only slightly leaning away from voting for her (based on the last year) if she was on the ticket right now. Between her flip-flopping on other issues (not Trump) and her stances that align with large donor money contributions I am questioning her integrity.

For me the jury is still deliberating on Sasse. I don't trust any politician.

That’s where I’m at.

I value integrity more than ideology. The problem is the system has cancelled integrity. It rewards corruption, glad handing, and established power. Hypocrisy and ideas no longer matter. Only the game.

It’s how illiberal cunts like Hillary win nominations for the supposedly “liberal” party. Or why Cuomo will get a pass despite the nursing home scandal and is paying more of a price for boorish behavior at parties. Or why DeSantis and Noem are the hot item in the primary thread. Or why Lindsey Graham will re-elected.

[kalm]

AZ already asked me what my point was, and I replied. Try to keep up.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 5#p1353385

You didn't answer my answer. Every politician flip-flops. What makes Haley different?


I suspect it has to do with she's moving on from Trump and the MAGAt crowd can't handle someone having an thought other than, " Trump is great!" MAGA has shown it doesn't tolerate anyone not towing the company line and ANYBODY that exercises any intellectual independence is a RINO, outcast, vilified, etc...

For me it’s the opposite. It took her what? One week to go back and try and kiss the ring?

[AZGrizFan]

I used to like her and only slightly leaning away from voting for her (based on the last year) if she was on the ticket right now. Between her flip-flopping on other issues (not Trump) and her stances that align with large donor money contributions I am questioning her integrity.

For me the jury is still deliberating on Sasse. I don't trust any politician.

That’s where I’m at.

I value integrity more than ideology. The problem is the system has cancelled integrity. It rewards corruption, glad handing, and established power. Hypocrisy and ideas no longer matter. Only the game.

It’s how illiberal cunts like Hillary win nominations for the supposedly “liberal” party. Or why Cuomo will get a pass despite the nursing home scandal and is paying more of a price for boorish behavior at parties. Or why DeSantis and Noem are the hot item in the primary thread. Or why Lindsey Graham will re-elected.

See?

MORE areas of agreement.

[Ibanez]

You didn't answer my answer. Every politician flip-flops. What makes Haley different?


I suspect it has to do with she's moving on from Trump and the MAGAt crowd can't handle someone having an thought other than, " Trump is great!" MAGA has shown it doesn't tolerate anyone not towing the company line and ANYBODY that exercises any intellectual independence is a RINO, outcast, vilified, etc...

For me it’s the opposite. It took her what? One week to go back and try and kiss the ring?

I'm just curious. Politicians are always going to pander, flip-flop, etc... Look at Lindsey Graham - he's been in politics over 20 years and has been on every side of an issue. He's gone back on his word to limit himself to terms (that was like 3 elections ago). Look at what he said about Trump...now he's attached at the hip. Same with Cruz. Cruz' family was personally attacked. His wife was essentially called ugly...and yet Cruz flips and sucks off The Don b/c it's politically smart for him.

So for flip flops and going back on your word...it means jack shit. They all do, they all do it quicker than some and the cultists from both sides don't really care. What's changed...? The GOP now has it's lord and savior and can't stomach the idea of someone not engaging in group think.

[Winterborn]

You didn't answer my answer. Every politician flip-flops. What makes Haley different?


I suspect it has to do with she's moving on from Trump and the MAGAt crowd can't handle someone having an thought other than, " Trump is great!" MAGA has shown it doesn't tolerate anyone not towing the company line and ANYBODY that exercises any intellectual independence is a RINO, outcast, vilified, etc...

For me it’s the opposite. It took her what? One week to go back and try and kiss the ring?

Everybody changes their mind it is how they change their mind that is the question.

[Ibanez]

That’s where I’m at.

I value integrity more than ideology. The problem is the system has cancelled integrity. It rewards corruption, glad handing, and established power. Hypocrisy and ideas no longer matter. Only the game.

It’s how illiberal cunts like Hillary win nominations for the supposedly “liberal” party. Or why Cuomo will get a pass despite the nursing home scandal and is paying more of a price for boorish behavior at parties. Or why DeSantis and Noem are the hot item in the primary thread. Or why Lindsey Graham will re-elected.

See?

MORE areas of agreement.

Agree, 100%. Haley could get my vote - not sure about anyone else. Honestly - not sure why I would give any career politician my vote. They're part of the problem.

Spoiler: show

I've been bemoaning the loss of integrity on here and have been getting chided for it. Is integrity now en vogue?