Coronavirus COVID-19

[Skjellyfetti]

~75% of the US population is overweight or obese. Staying away from fat people is unachievable.

and also the primary reason for the high US death rate. But hey, lets punish all the healthy people.

78% of the people in the US that have been hospitalized due to COVID have been overweight or obese.

73.6% of the adults in the US are overweight or obese according to the CDC using 2018 numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

That's slightly higher than you would expect. And, I'd assume our % of people overweight has increased in the last few years as well.

[AZGrizFan]

and also the primary reason for the high US death rate. But hey, lets punish all the healthy people.

78% of the people in the US that have been hospitalized due to COVID have been overweight or obese.

73.6% of the adults in the US are overweight or obese according to the CDC using 2018 numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

That's slightly higher than you would expect. And, I'd assume our % of people overweight has increased in the last few years as well.

Yes. Social media and message boards have created an even BIGGER couch potato generation than those that came before.

[GannonFan]

and also the primary reason for the high US death rate. But hey, lets punish all the healthy people.

78% of the people in the US that have been hospitalized due to COVID have been overweight or obese.

73.6% of the adults in the US are overweight or obese according to the CDC using 2018 numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

That's slightly higher than you would expect. And, I'd assume our % of people overweight has increased in the last few years as well.

It's a reason why Europe, especially western Europe, hasn't fared well either, they're not too far behind us in the obesity race. Amazing, if you're generally unhealthy, you don't have particularly good outcomes when you do get sick. That's a hard message to sell in our culture these days when we've decided that you're fine and beautiful no matter what. Being fat isn't a bad thing anymore, and god forbid you say that it is. Apparently the virus didn't get that memo.

[AZGrizFan]

78% of the people in the US that have been hospitalized due to COVID have been overweight or obese.

73.6% of the adults in the US are overweight or obese according to the CDC using 2018 numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

That's slightly higher than you would expect. And, I'd assume our % of people overweight has increased in the last few years as well.

It's a reason why Europe, especially western Europe, hasn't fared well either, they're not too far behind us in the obesity race. Amazing, if you're generally unhealthy, you don't have particularly good outcomes when you do get sick. That's a hard message to sell in our culture these days when we've decided that you're fine and beautiful no matter what. Being fat isn't a bad thing anymore, and god forbid you say that it is. Apparently the virus didn't get that memo.

well, there's a lot fewer obese people to fat-shame now....

[HI54UNI]

Quick before we lose control over people's lives.

[SeattleGriz]

78% of the people in the US that have been hospitalized due to COVID have been overweight or obese.

73.6% of the adults in the US are overweight or obese according to the CDC using 2018 numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

That's slightly higher than you would expect. And, I'd assume our % of people overweight has increased in the last few years as well.

It's a reason why Europe, especially western Europe, hasn't fared well either, they're not too far behind us in the obesity race. Amazing, if you're generally unhealthy, you don't have particularly good outcomes when you do get sick. That's a hard message to sell in our culture these days when we've decided that you're fine and beautiful no matter what. Being fat isn't a bad thing anymore, and god forbid you say that it is. Apparently the virus didn't get that memo.

Wait until the idea of restricting movement of those with comorbidities to prevent COVID deaths comes up.

[kalm]

It's a reason why Europe, especially western Europe, hasn't fared well either, they're not too far behind us in the obesity race. Amazing, if you're generally unhealthy, you don't have particularly good outcomes when you do get sick. That's a hard message to sell in our culture these days when we've decided that you're fine and beautiful no matter what. Being fat isn't a bad thing anymore, and god forbid you say that it is. Apparently the virus didn't get that memo.

Wait until the idea of restricting movement of those with comorbidities to prevent COVID deaths comes up.

The restrictions were to limit community spread and prevent hospitals from being over-run.

[SeattleGriz]

Wait until the idea of restricting movement of those with comorbidities to prevent COVID deaths comes up.

The restrictions were to limit community spread and prevent hospitals from being over-run.

I understand that. My point was directed at the eroding of civil liberties and where this could eventually end up.

[kalm]

The restrictions were to limit community spread and prevent hospitals from being over-run.

I understand that. My point was directed at the eroding of civil liberties and where this could eventually end up.

Right. So avoid that by killing the disease.

[SeattleGriz]

I understand that. My point was directed at the eroding of civil liberties and where this could eventually end up.

Right. So avoid that by killing the disease.

It goes further than COVID. Look at the medical burden put on our medical system by those that won't help themselves. Eventually they will be required to start doing something to help, like increased premiums, or lose access to society. Can't have people susceptible to a pandemic running around society. They will need to be isolated and protected.

[kalm]

Right. So avoid that by killing the disease.

It goes further than COVID. Look at the medical burden put on our medical system by those that won't help themselves. Eventually they will be required to start doing something to help, like increased premiums, or lose access to society. Can't have people susceptible to a pandemic running around society. They will need to be isolated and protected.

Nah. This is America. We are free to do whatever the fuck we want without consequences.

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota is at around 27% immunity, that includes people that have had covid and are fully vaccinated. I can see things returning to normalcy by June, if the trend continues. We went to a county that was 40+ percent vaccinated, and it appeared near normal. People walking around without mask, the local bakery/diner was full of customers. Main street was full of cars with people going about their business.

[kalm]

Minnesota is at around 27% immunity, that includes people that have had covid and are fully vaccinated. I can see things returning to normalcy by June, if the trend continues. We went to a county that was 40+ percent vaccinated, and it appeared near normal. People walking around without mask, the local bakery/diner was full of customers. Main street was full of cars with people going about their business.

Brazil remains a shit show and Ontario is considering going back to 4 weeks of lockdown. Our numbers are rising again too.

Our next wave may not be as bad because we’ve 1) had a higher infection rate than other countries and 2) vaccine distribution.

[GannonFan]

Minnesota is at around 27% immunity, that includes people that have had covid and are fully vaccinated. I can see things returning to normalcy by June, if the trend continues. We went to a county that was 40+ percent vaccinated, and it appeared near normal. People walking around without mask, the local bakery/diner was full of customers. Main street was full of cars with people going about their business.

Brazil remains a shit show and Ontario is considering going back to 4 weeks of lockdown. Our numbers are rising again too.

Our next wave may not be as bad because we’ve 1) had a higher infection rate than other countries and 2) vaccine distribution.

Yup, we already have people with built-in immunity from having it before and we have an ever increasing vaccination rate. Gil's right, by June 1st or so, you should see pretty much no restrictions - no need for masks, no restrictions for inside venues nor outside events (baseball games, concerts, etc). It'll be hard to convince people of the need for restrictions given the pending immunity.

Just registered for my shots - I'm 1-B in PA due to working in manufacturing. Just opened up registration to 1B's today. Still likely at least a month from getting the shot, but at least I'm in line now.

[kalm]

Brazil remains a shit show and Ontario is considering going back to 4 weeks of lockdown. Our numbers are rising again too.

Our next wave may not be as bad because we’ve 1) had a higher infection rate than other countries and 2) vaccine distribution.

Yup, we already have people with built-in immunity from having it before and we have an ever increasing vaccination rate. Gil's right, by June 1st or so, you should see pretty much no restrictions - no need for masks, no restrictions for inside venues nor outside events (baseball games, concerts, etc). It'll be hard to convince people of the need for restrictions given the pending immunity.

I’m cautiously optimistic Gil is right. But recent studies show the UK strain may increase the hospitalization rate 40-60%. Some of that is re-hospitalization a few months after infection.

The convincing enough people to voluntarily mask up and social distance ship never left harbor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... r.amp.html

[GannonFan]

Yup, we already have people with built-in immunity from having it before and we have an ever increasing vaccination rate. Gil's right, by June 1st or so, you should see pretty much no restrictions - no need for masks, no restrictions for inside venues nor outside events (baseball games, concerts, etc). It'll be hard to convince people of the need for restrictions given the pending immunity.

I’m cautiously optimistic Gil is right. But recent studies show the UK strain may increase the hospitalization rate 40-60%. Some of that is re-hospitalization a few months after infection.

The convincing enough people to voluntarily mask up and social distance ship never left harbor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... r.amp.html

All indicators so far are that vaccines still work against the known variants. This thing is never going away, there'll be variants of this for the next century or so, if not longer.

And nonsense about the masking up thing not happening. It's rare to find anyone not wearing a mask. I think the problems come not out in public, but what people do in their own homes and how wide their bubbles are. You don't see spread a lot in businesses or schools or stores or other places like that. It's in private settings where people have let down their guard.

[SDHornet]

78% of the people in the US that have been hospitalized due to COVID have been overweight or obese.

73.6% of the adults in the US are overweight or obese according to the CDC using 2018 numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

That's slightly higher than you would expect. And, I'd assume our % of people overweight has increased in the last few years as well.

It's a reason why Europe, especially western Europe, hasn't fared well either, they're not too far behind us in the obesity race. Amazing, if you're generally unhealthy, you don't have particularly good outcomes when you do get sick. That's a hard message to sell in our culture these days when we've decided that you're fine and beautiful no matter what. Being fat isn't a bad thing anymore, and god forbid you say that it is. Apparently the virus didn't get that memo.

No shit. But hey, lock everything down.

[SDHornet]

Yup, we already have people with built-in immunity from having it before and we have an ever increasing vaccination rate. Gil's right, by June 1st or so, you should see pretty much no restrictions - no need for masks, no restrictions for inside venues nor outside events (baseball games, concerts, etc). It'll be hard to convince people of the need for restrictions given the pending immunity.

I’m cautiously optimistic Gil is right. But recent studies show the UK strain may increase the hospitalization rate 40-60%. Some of that is re-hospitalization a few months after infection.

The convincing enough people to voluntarily mask up and social distance ship never left harbor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... r.amp.html

Ah yes, gotta keep the fear porn going so these lockdowns can stay in affect.

[Gil Dobie]

I’m cautiously optimistic Gil is right. But recent studies show the UK strain may increase the hospitalization rate 40-60%. Some of that is re-hospitalization a few months after infection.

The convincing enough people to voluntarily mask up and social distance ship never left harbor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... r.amp.html

Ah yes, gotta keep the fear porn going so these lockdowns can stay in affect.

Sorry man, no fear hear about lockdowns. I'm not following the politically biased media promoted by the Iranian hacker farms in Northern Virginia.

[kalm]

I’m cautiously optimistic Gil is right. But recent studies show the UK strain may increase the hospitalization rate 40-60%. Some of that is re-hospitalization a few months after infection.

The convincing enough people to voluntarily mask up and social distance ship never left harbor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... r.amp.html

Ah yes, gotta keep the fear porn going so these lockdowns can stay in affect.

550,000 deaths later and it’s still fear porn over the flu.



Here’s some Fauci fear porn for ya..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... UtwZcdzaIg

[Gil Dobie]

Ah yes, gotta keep the fear porn going so these lockdowns can stay in affect.

550,000 deaths later and it’s still fear porn over the flu.



Here’s some Fauci fear porn for ya..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... UtwZcdzaIg

Don't forget the fearporn about the economy going in the shitter, mask are taking away our freedom, our kids are not getting educated.

As I typed the fear of our kids not getting educated, it appeared to me, those are the same people that are saying that the schools are breeding grounds for the liberal agenda.

[kalm]

550,000 deaths later and it’s still fear porn over the flu.



Here’s some Fauci fear porn for ya..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... UtwZcdzaIg

Don't forget the fearporn about the economy going in the shitter, mask are taking away our freedom, our kids are not getting educated.

As I typed the fear of our kids not getting educated, it appeared to me, those are the same people that are saying that the schools are breeding grounds for the liberal agenda.

Good point.

[UNI88]

Don't forget the fearporn about the economy going in the shitter, mask are taking away our freedom, our kids are not getting educated.

As I typed the fear of our kids not getting educated, it appeared to me, those are the same people that are saying that the schools are breeding grounds for the liberal agenda.

Good point.

Do you really think that are education over the past year as been as good or better than it was before that? Do you really think that our economy hasn't suffered? That the rich didn't get richer while the poor struggled?

[kalm]

Good point.

Do you really think that are education over the past year as been as good or better than it was before that? Do you really think that our economy hasn't suffered? That the rich didn't get richer while the poor struggled?

* our

Of course not. Those things happen during a crisis.

‘We’d fight the axis powers but what about the children and the expenses?’

Btw, another study is out placing WA in the top of 5 of pandemic related economic stability and recovery. Loads of mitigating factors, but I’d say we’re doing remarkably well saving lives without economic catastrophe at least so far.

On another fear porn note...

Can a Georgian use their vaccination card in lieu of other voter ID?

[UNI88]

Do you really think that are education over the past year as been as good or better than it was before that? Do you really think that our economy hasn't suffered? That the rich didn't get richer while the poor struggled?

* our

Of course not. Those things happen during a crisis.

‘We’d fight the axis powers but what about the children and the expenses?’

Btw, another study is out placing WA in the top of 5 of pandemic related economic stability and recovery. Loads of mitigating factors, but I’d say we’re doing remarkably well saving lives without economic catastrophe at least so far.

On another fear porn note...

Can a Georgian use their vaccination card in lieu of other voter ID?

You're the one that responded to Gil's post with "good point" but the economy has gone in the shitter for many and many kids aren't getting the education they were before. It isn't fear porn, it's real. FTR, I'm not arguing against the restrictions but to pretend that they didn't come with costs is sticking your head in the sand stupid.

Yes Washington (and Oregon) has done better than other states. Do you think that's because they were stricter on the lockdowns or maybe because they have more people working jobs that could be done remotely?

Good point for you on the "another fear porn note ...", the reaction to the Georgia election law as Jim Crow could be described as leftist fear porn.