Coronavirus COVID-19

[BDKJMU]

Freedom!

One coronavirus survivor manages her medical bills in color-coded folders: green, red and tan for different types of documents. A man whose father died of the virus last fall uses an Excel spreadsheet to organize the outstanding debts. It has 457 rows, one for each of his father’s bills, totaling over $1 million.

These are people who are facing the financial version of long-haul Covid: They’ve found their lives and finances upended by medical bills resulting from a bout with the virus.

Their desks and coffee tables have stacks of billing documents. They are fluent in the jargon of coronavirus medical coding, after hundreds of hours of phone calls discussing the charges with hospitals, doctors and insurers.

“People think there is some relief program for medical bills for coronavirus patients,” said Jennifer Miller, a psychologist near Milwaukee who is working with a lawyer to challenge thousands in outstanding debt from two emergency room visits last year. “It just doesn’t exist.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/upsh ... wlZf4WzTDc

Send China the bill.

[89Hen]

I made it up. Made as much sense as "evasion" as a reply. I can't be more clear on my pro-life position and never evade any question on it.

Ok.

So you don’t worry about a woman’s body in a pregnancy?

Worry in what way? I'm guessing you want to skip to woman's life in danger, incest and rape and not talk about 99% of the abortions?

[AZGrizFan]

Freedom!

One coronavirus survivor manages her medical bills in color-coded folders: green, red and tan for different types of documents. A man whose father died of the virus last fall uses an Excel spreadsheet to organize the outstanding debts. It has 457 rows, one for each of his father’s bills, totaling over $1 million.

These are people who are facing the financial version of long-haul Covid: They’ve found their lives and finances upended by medical bills resulting from a bout with the virus.

Their desks and coffee tables have stacks of billing documents. They are fluent in the jargon of coronavirus medical coding, after hundreds of hours of phone calls discussing the charges with hospitals, doctors and insurers.

“People think there is some relief program for medical bills for coronavirus patients,” said Jennifer Miller, a psychologist near Milwaukee who is working with a lawyer to challenge thousands in outstanding debt from two emergency room visits last year. “It just doesn’t exist.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/upsh ... wlZf4WzTDc

Freedom, yes. Or do you believe we should blow up the system for the six sigma outliers?

[kalm]

Freedom!



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/upsh ... wlZf4WzTDc

Freedom, yes. Or do you believe we should blow up the system for the six sigma outliers?

I don’t know what that means.

[kalm]

Ok.

So you don’t worry about a woman’s body in a pregnancy?

Worry in what way? I'm guessing you want to skip to woman's life in danger, incest and rape and not talk about 99% of the abortions?

Well you said you don’t care what a women does with her body and that’s not the body you’re worried about.

Seems odd.

[LeadBolt]

So let me get this straight, I should get vaccinated (I have), and wear a mask on my body to protect others, even though I have health issues that cause heart rate elevation and blood o2 to be depleted (which wearing a mask does) which are dangerous for me to possibly protect others because it’s not my body, my choice.

A pregnant woman should be allowed an abortion that absolutely results in the death of another person because it’s her body and her choice, whether or not it is a danger to her health.

Did I get that right?


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[kalm]

So let me get this straight, I should get vaccinated (I have), and wear a mask on my body to protect others, even though I have health issues that cause heart rate elevation and blood o2 to be depleted (which wearing a mask does) which are dangerous for me to possibly protect others because it’s not my body, my choice.

A pregnant woman should be allowed an abortion that absolutely results in the death of another person because it’s her body and her choice, whether or not it is a danger to her health.

Did I get that right?


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You probably shouldn’t wear a mask and just stay home. If you do, it doesn’t have to be your whole body. I’d recommend just the face.

[SeattleGriz]

What happened to the variants?

[AZGrizFan]

So let me get this straight, I should get vaccinated (I have), and wear a mask on my body to protect others, even though I have health issues that cause heart rate elevation and blood o2 to be depleted (which wearing a mask does) which are dangerous for me to possibly protect others because it’s not my body, my choice.

A pregnant woman should be allowed an abortion that absolutely results in the death of another person because it’s her body and her choice, whether or not it is a danger to her health.

Did I get that right?


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Lib logic in a nutshell.

[AZGrizFan]

Freedom, yes. Or do you believe we should blow up the system for the six sigma outliers?

I don’t know what that means.

Of course.

[89Hen]

Worry in what way? I'm guessing you want to skip to woman's life in danger, incest and rape and not talk about 99% of the abortions?

Well you said you don’t care what a women does with her body and that’s not the body you’re worried about.

Seems odd.

Ask a direct question kalm and stop beating around the bush. I don't give a rats ass what a woman does to her body. I don't give a rats ass what a man does to his body. What part of that isn't clear?

[UNI88]

Well you said you don’t care what a women does with her body and that’s not the body you’re worried about.

Seems odd.

Ask a direct question kalm and stop beating around the bush. I don't give a rats ass what a woman does to her body. I don't give a rats ass what a man does to his body. What part of that isn't clear?

I don't think 89 actually stated that he doesn't "care about what a woman does with her body". He did state "that's not the body I'm worried about" because he's worried about the baby's body. 89 has been very consistent in his views on abortion. He believes the baby is a life worth saving. You can disagree with him but don't try to twist his words and views to make him look like the bad guy.

[CID1990]

Here’s a couple Harvard economists who are friendly to President Biden, undercutting Democrat claims about the sluggish economic recovery

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... obs-market

The good news is that all the helicopter money keeping parents at home is driving the inflation bump that will force them all back to work

winning, I guess


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[kalm]

Well you said you don’t care what a women does with her body and that’s not the body you’re worried about.

Seems odd.

Ask a direct question kalm and stop beating around the bush. I don't give a rats ass what a woman does to her body. I don't give a rats ass what a man does to his body. What part of that isn't clear?

“Being anti abortion and anti vax are not in conflict of each other in any way.”

Remember...this was your initial statement.

Are pregnant women immune to covid? Or can they all just socially distance and not go to prenatal Dr.’s appointments?

[kalm]

Ask a direct question kalm and stop beating around the bush. I don't give a rats ass what a woman does to her body. I don't give a rats ass what a man does to his body. What part of that isn't clear?

I don't think 89 actually stated that he doesn't "care about what a woman does with her body". He did state "that's not the body I'm worried about" because he's worried about the baby's body. 89 has been very consistent in his views on abortion. He believes the baby is a life worth saving. You can disagree with him but don't try to twist his words and views to make him look like the bad guy.

I didn’t twist his words. I’m looking for clarity. Aside from the obvious all life being worthy of concern, see my reply above.

[kalm]

Here’s a couple Harvard economists who are friendly to President Biden, undercutting Democrat claims about the sluggish economic recovery

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... obs-market

The good news is that all the helicopter money keeping parents at home is driving the inflation bump that will force them all back to work

winning, I guess


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It seems like we’ve suffered less economically than we should have through the pandemic. Can some of the inflation also be due to supply chain issues?

And perhaps people are figuring out the value of sacrificing one low wage in the household in order to stay home with the wee ones?

Not claiming to know anything, just spit balling...but interesting stuff for sure.

[89Hen]

Ask a direct question kalm and stop beating around the bush. I don't give a rats ass what a woman does to her body. I don't give a rats ass what a man does to his body. What part of that isn't clear?

“Being anti abortion and anti vax are not in conflict of each other in any way.”

Remember...this was your initial statement.

Are pregnant women immune to covid? Or can they all just socially distance and not go to prenatal Dr.’s appointments?

What in the hell are you talking about?? The initial implication was that one can't be pro-life and anti-vax because of "my body, my choice". That's the assertion to which I was addressing. Not taking the vaccine is your body, your choice. Pro-life is NOT your body, your choice. It's the life inside that isn't making the choice to be killed.

[kalm]

“Being anti abortion and anti vax are not in conflict of each other in any way.”

Remember...this was your initial statement.

Are pregnant women immune to covid? Or can they all just socially distance and not go to prenatal Dr.’s appointments?

What in the hell are you talking about?? The initial implication was that one can't be pro-life and anti-vax because of "my body, my choice". That's the assertion to which I was addressing. Not taking the vaccine is your body, your choice. Pro-life is NOT your body, your choice. It's the life inside that isn't making the choice to be killed.

Thank you for the follow up.

I’ll admit it’s a cheap association you were dismissing and not taking the vaccine is indeed a choice. But so is abortion. Unless an abortion only involves the fetus.

Strike the word “can’t” from the above because you can...regardless of hypocrisy. Strike the words “in any way” and your counter argument is less confusing because there is a way...you just don’t like it.

And I’m anti-abortion too. It’s just not my body.

[89Hen]

there is a way...you just don’t like it.

Incorrect.

[AZGrizFan]

Here’s a couple Harvard economists who are friendly to President Biden, undercutting Democrat claims about the sluggish economic recovery

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... obs-market

The good news is that all the helicopter money keeping parents at home is driving the inflation bump that will force them all back to work

winning, I guess


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It seems like we’ve suffered less economically than we should have through the pandemic. Can some of the inflation also be due to supply chain issues?

And perhaps people are figuring out the value of sacrificing one low wage in the household in order to stay home with the wee ones?

Not claiming to know anything, just spit balling...but interesting stuff for sure.

The hundreds of thousands of ruined business owners and those who lost the 8,000,000 missing jobs might disagree with your first sentence.

[SeattleGriz]

Gotta love the CDC. Changing the rules on what constitutes a positive case only for post vaccination cases.

So on the front end, pretty much anything counts as a positive COVID case, but post vaccination, we go to a much more stringent ruleset...like we used to have.

[AZGrizFan]

Gotta love the CDC. Changing the rules on what constitutes a positive case only for post vaccination cases.

So on the front end, pretty much anything counts as a positive COVID case, but post vaccination, we go to a much more stringent ruleset...like we used to have.

Makes perfect sense. They got the election result they wanted, so s’all good now.

[BDKJMU]

Here’s a couple Harvard economists who are friendly to President Biden, undercutting Democrat claims about the sluggish economic recovery

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... obs-market

The good news is that all the helicopter money keeping parents at home is driving the inflation bump that will force them all back to work

winning, I guess


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It seems like we’ve suffered less economically than we should have through the pandemic. Can some of the inflation also be due to supply chain issues?

And perhaps people are figuring out the value of sacrificing one low wage in the household in order to stay home with the wee ones?

Not claiming to know anything, just spit balling...but interesting stuff for sure.

5.7 trillion in funny $$ over the last 13 months into a 21 trillion economy, how could you not have high inflation?

[kalm]

It seems like we’ve suffered less economically than we should have through the pandemic. Can some of the inflation also be due to supply chain issues?

And perhaps people are figuring out the value of sacrificing one low wage in the household in order to stay home with the wee ones?

Not claiming to know anything, just spit balling...but interesting stuff for sure.

The hundreds of thousands of ruined business owners and those who lost the 8,000,000 missing jobs might disagree with your first sentence.

Did I say there was no suffering?

The unemployment numbers and the lack of a long term downturn in the market are surprising considering...

[SeattleGriz]

Gotta love the CDC. Changing the rules on what constitutes a positive case only for post vaccination cases.

So on the front end, pretty much anything counts as a positive COVID case, but post vaccination, we go to a much more stringent ruleset...like we used to have.

Makes perfect sense. They got the election result they wanted, so s’all good now.

In addition to not accepting any PCR tests above a cycle threshold of 28, the patient ALSO has to either be hospitalized or die, to be counted as a breakthrough COVID case.

Those will make for some wonderful numbers in regard to vaccine effectiveness. Essentially zero breakthrough cases!