Miami Apartment Building Collapse

[andy7171]

a.k.a. "projects"

What’s the alternative?

Invade the Palouse!

[CAA Flagship]

What’s the alternative?

Invade the Palouse!

Now that's the kind of forward thinking we need more of around here.

[89Hen]

a.k.a. "projects"

What’s the alternative?

Build more small "towns". My county has a hearing tonight where they are talking about removing zoning in residential areas. If this were to pass, my next door neighbor could sell her house to a builder that can put up a small apartment building. I live in a single family neighborhood. I would burn the place down.

[Ibanez]

What’s the alternative?

Build more small "towns". My county has a hearing tonight where they are talking about removing zoning in residential areas. If this were to pass, my next door neighbor could sell her house to a builder that can put up a small apartment building. I live in a single family neighborhood. I would burn the place down.

My town, at a town hall meetings 4 months ago, said they made a huge mistake allowing a massive development to occur. Now they're trying to retain any small town charm they can.

[SDHornet]

What’s the alternative?

Build more small "towns". My county has a hearing tonight where they are talking about removing zoning in residential areas. If this were to pass, my next door neighbor could sell her house to a builder that can put up a small apartment building. I live in a single family neighborhood. I would burn the place down.

Didn't some Orange Man that posted a lot of mean tweets warn us of this?

[kalm]

What’s the alternative?

Build more small "towns". My county has a hearing tonight where they are talking about removing zoning in residential areas. If this were to pass, my next door neighbor could sell her house to a builder that can put up a small apartment building. I live in a single family neighborhood. I would burn the place down.

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

[HI54UNI]

Build more small "towns". My county has a hearing tonight where they are talking about removing zoning in residential areas. If this were to pass, my next door neighbor could sell her house to a builder that can put up a small apartment building. I live in a single family neighborhood. I would burn the place down.

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

That's the problem. Many libs don't like that.

[89Hen]

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

Fewer people will need to go to offices going forward and along with the "towns" are mixed use, so you can have your offices near home.

[kalm]

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

That's the problem. Many libs don't like that.

Do you like urban sprawl?

[Gil Dobie]

Build more small "towns". My county has a hearing tonight where they are talking about removing zoning in residential areas. If this were to pass, my next door neighbor could sell her house to a builder that can put up a small apartment building. I live in a single family neighborhood. I would burn the place down.

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

The original railroads plotted towns as they were built.

[CAA Flagship]

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

The original railroads plotted towns as they were built.

[GannonFan]

I personally like that idea and see the possibilities, but doesn’t that also open the door to more sprawl, fuel usage, or need for mass transit? I know Spokane County is constantly dealing with the state’s growth management act. And we have room out here.

The original railroads plotted towns as they were built.

Too long ago. Rail works best in really concentrated spaces. We just have too much room and the desire for people to have space. Building a lot more rail now, in places where it doesn't exist, makes almost no sense, especially when we also are saying that more and more people don't need to go into offices to work. It's great that people like the rail system in Europe or in parts of Japan, but those demographics and distribution of people aren't the same here and aren't going to be.

Even makes less sense to devote any money to new rail not only for the work at home reason, but for the coming advent of automated cars. We can get to the "Minority Report" transportation where basically every individual car is it's own train.

[BDKJMU]

Thank God the local governments and Biden wants to build more high rises.

a.k.a. "projects"

What’s the alternative?

Low rises.

[kalm]

The original railroads plotted towns as they were built.

Too long ago. Rail works best in really concentrated spaces. We just have too much room and the desire for people to have space. Building a lot more rail now, in places where it doesn't exist, makes almost no sense, especially when we also are saying that more and more people don't need to go into offices to work. It's great that people like the rail system in Europe or in parts of Japan, but those demographics and distribution of people aren't the same here and aren't going to be.

Even makes less sense to devote any money to new rail not only for the work at home reason, but for the coming advent of automated cars. We can get to the "Minority Report" transportation where basically every individual car is it's own train.

There is more than just commuting. Our old hood is developing fast and services (everything from grocery to medical to parks) is lagging behind. There’s also the issues of who controls utilities, city annexation vs. unincorporated county services, etc. everyone wants the services, for cheap, and the cities and pols are fighting over control and votes.

Complicated issues but I agree there are some things that will take care of themselves through tech. Not sure if that prevents sprawl as much as we’d like tho.

[GannonFan]

Too long ago. Rail works best in really concentrated spaces. We just have too much room and the desire for people to have space. Building a lot more rail now, in places where it doesn't exist, makes almost no sense, especially when we also are saying that more and more people don't need to go into offices to work. It's great that people like the rail system in Europe or in parts of Japan, but those demographics and distribution of people aren't the same here and aren't going to be.

Even makes less sense to devote any money to new rail not only for the work at home reason, but for the coming advent of automated cars. We can get to the "Minority Report" transportation where basically every individual car is it's own train.

There is more than just commuting. Our old hood is developing fast and services (everything from grocery to medical to parks) is lagging behind. There’s also the issues of who controls utilities, city annexation vs. unincorporated county services, etc. everyone wants the services, for cheap, and the cities and pols are fighting over control and votes.

Complicated issues but I agree there are some things that will take care of themselves through tech. Not sure if that prevents sprawl as much as we’d like tho.

Assuming that sprawl is something to avoid - maybe some people like everything (and everyone) being spread out.

[∞∞∞]

The original railroads plotted towns as they were built.

Too long ago. Rail works best in really concentrated spaces. We just have too much room and the desire for people to have space. Building a lot more rail now, in places where it doesn't exist, makes almost no sense, especially when we also are saying that more and more people don't need to go into offices to work. It's great that people like the rail system in Europe or in parts of Japan, but those demographics and distribution of people aren't the same here and aren't going to be.

Even makes less sense to devote any money to new rail not only for the work at home reason, but for the coming advent of automated cars. We can get to the "Minority Report" transportation where basically every individual car is it's own train.

It took time, but passenger railway infrastructure has really benefitted Virginia: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transpor ... nger-rail/

Not saying it'll work in every state, but Virginia can serve as a model for some. 80% of its citizens have easy access to rail now.

[CID1990]

Too long ago. Rail works best in really concentrated spaces. We just have too much room and the desire for people to have space. Building a lot more rail now, in places where it doesn't exist, makes almost no sense, especially when we also are saying that more and more people don't need to go into offices to work. It's great that people like the rail system in Europe or in parts of Japan, but those demographics and distribution of people aren't the same here and aren't going to be.

Even makes less sense to devote any money to new rail not only for the work at home reason, but for the coming advent of automated cars. We can get to the "Minority Report" transportation where basically every individual car is it's own train.

It took time, but passenger railway infrastructure has really benefitted Virginia: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transpor ... nger-rail/

Not saying it'll work in every state, but Virginia can serve as a model for some. 80% of its citizens have easy access to rail now.

The VRE is what almost got me looking at Fredricksburg. If not for my wife I’d have done it.


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[Gil Dobie]

The original railroads plotted towns as they were built.

Too long ago. Rail works best in really concentrated spaces. We just have too much room and the desire for people to have space. Building a lot more rail now, in places where it doesn't exist, makes almost no sense, especially when we also are saying that more and more people don't need to go into offices to work. It's great that people like the rail system in Europe or in parts of Japan, but those demographics and distribution of people aren't the same here and aren't going to be.

Even makes less sense to devote any money to new rail not only for the work at home reason, but for the coming advent of automated cars. We can get to the "Minority Report" transportation where basically every individual car is it's own train.

I"m not saying we should build rail systems, I'm saying we had it all and replaced it with other stuff. Twin Cities had a great rail system, then Carl Pohlad, yes the former Twins owner, came along and changed it to a bus system. Now everyone wants rails back.

[∞∞∞]

It took time, but passenger railway infrastructure has really benefitted Virginia: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transpor ... nger-rail/

Not saying it'll work in every state, but Virginia can serve as a model for some. 80% of its citizens have easy access to rail now.

The VRE is what almost got me looking at Fredricksburg. If not for my wife I’d have done it.


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I'm a VRE commuter and it's worth every penny.

[HI54UNI]

That's the problem. Many libs don't like that.

Do you like urban sprawl?

As long as people don't sprawl to my area I don't care.

[BDKJMU]

6 days in about an hr and a half. 12 bodies found, still 149 missing.

[CID1990]

6 days in about an hr and a half. 12 bodies found, still 149 missing.

They aren’t missing

They’re all right there


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[Ivytalk]

6 days in about an hr and a half. 12 bodies found, still 149 missing.

Representatives of Chanel are there, scouting new fragrance possibilities.

[kalm]

Do you like urban sprawl?

As long as people don't sprawl to my area I don't care.

Honesty and I agree! We literally just evacuated sprawl to the country.

[89Hen]

80% of its citizens have easy access to rail now.

Pay to read, but I'm guessing that's only if you use the most loose definition of "easy access" in the history of that phrase. And not sure it's working.