I've seen Gonzo up close many, many times (including during that magical 2001 season). His arms NEVER looked like that. I'm gonna guess that's photoshopped.JoltinJoe wrote:But he plainly said that he lost his job to a "juicer" and was pretty plainly implicating Gonzalez ...dbackjon wrote:David Deluchi was not starting material. A 4th outfielder at best.
It's pretty rare when a former teammate outs you like that ...
Gonzo, Game 7, 2001*. Amazing that the best that juicer could do with Rivera was a broken-bat sorry-azzed lazy bloop ... Sorriest hit ever to win a WS ... But I guess you count that in AZ.
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The first time I saw that photo was in Sports Illustrated in 2001, right after the WS.AZGrizFan wrote:I've seen Gonzo up close many, many times (including during that magical 2001 season). His arms NEVER looked like that. I'm gonna guess that's photoshopped.JoltinJoe wrote:
But he plainly said that he lost his job to a "juicer" and was pretty plainly implicating Gonzalez ...
It's pretty rare when a former teammate outs you like that ...
Gonzo, Game 7, 2001*. Amazing that the best that juicer could do with Rivera was a broken-bat sorry-azzed lazy bloop ... Sorriest hit ever to win a WS ... But I guess you count that in AZ.
Here is the photo from the MLB website. I doubt either SI or MLB photoshops pictures.
The only reason I didn't use this photo originally was because of its size.

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So, is it your belief the only way someone can look like that is by being on the juice?JoltinJoe wrote: Here is the photo from the MLB website. I doubt either SI or MLB photoshops pictures.
The only reason I didn't use this photo originally was because of its size.
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So then you concede the photo is not photoshopped?AZGrizFan wrote:So, is it your belief the only way someone can look like that is by being on the juice?JoltinJoe wrote: Here is the photo from the MLB website. I doubt either SI or MLB photoshops pictures.
The only reason I didn't use this photo originally was because of its size.
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Fine. If you concede that you don't have to be on the juice to look like that.JoltinJoe wrote:So then you concede the photo is not photoshopped?AZGrizFan wrote:
So, is it your belief the only way someone can look like that is by being on the juice?
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Sure, you don't have to be juiced to look like that. Still, most juicers do look like that.AZGrizFan wrote:Fine. If you concede that you don't have to be on the juice to look like that.JoltinJoe wrote:
So then you concede the photo is not photoshopped?
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Wow. That's a VERY lame argument for a lawyer. In your line of work, don't you have to have actual PROOF or something?JoltinJoe wrote:Sure, you don't have to be juiced to look like that. Still, most juicers do look like that.AZGrizFan wrote:
Fine. If you concede that you don't have to be on the juice to look like that.
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One of these days, Gonzalez will be outed. Will talk then.AZGrizFan wrote:Wow. That's a VERY lame argument for a lawyer. In your line of work, don't you have to have actual PROOF or something?JoltinJoe wrote:
Sure, you don't have to be juiced to look like that. Still, most juicers do look like that.![]()
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"But, your Honor....the defendant is BLACK. And most muggers are BLACK. Therefore, the defendant MUST be guilty!"
(BTW, you sound just like those Giants fan who supported Barry Bonds. What proof? What facts? )
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So, you're telling me you have neither. Gotcha.JoltinJoe wrote:One of these days, Gonzalez will be outed. Will talk then.AZGrizFan wrote:
Wow. That's a VERY lame argument for a lawyer. In your line of work, don't you have to have actual PROOF or something?![]()
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"But, your Honor....the defendant is BLACK. And most muggers are BLACK. Therefore, the defendant MUST be guilty!"
(BTW, you sound just like those Giants fan who supported Barry Bonds. What proof? What facts? )
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Other than the fact that a teammate outed him?AZGrizFan wrote:So, you're telling me you have neither. Gotcha.JoltinJoe wrote:
One of these days, Gonzalez will be outed. Will talk then.
(BTW, you sound just like those Giants fan who supported Barry Bonds. What proof? What facts? )![]()
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Objection. Heresay, your honor.JoltinJoe wrote:Other than the fact that a teammate outed him?AZGrizFan wrote:
So, you're telling me you have neither. Gotcha.![]()
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Especially from a bitter, not objective source.AZGrizFan wrote:Objection. Heresay, your honor.JoltinJoe wrote:
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Delucci has ALWAYS been a guy more interested in chasing the poontang that hangs at the ballparks than working to improve his game.dbackjon wrote:Especially from a bitter, not objective source.AZGrizFan wrote:
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