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Re: We Need a New President...

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:42 am
kalm wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:38 am Thanks for the VP nod….wait…what is it I will be responsible for again?

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You get to hold the POTUS' schmeckle when he takes a leak. :lol:
That’s disgusting ‘88!
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Re: We Need a New President...

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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:53 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:42 am
You get to hold the POTUS' schmeckle when he takes a leak. :lol:
That’s disgusting ‘88!
Think how Kamala feels while Ol' Joe is sniffing her hair. :oops:
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Re: We Need a New President...

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CID1990 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:53 am
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I thought most of the people on the NCS are already cabinet-level positions, and thus they do get confirmed? There are a few, NatSec among them, who aren't, but at the top level most seem to be ones requiring confirmation. I do take your point that at some level there are a bunch of unelected/unconfirmed folks who are steering policy decisions.
I an referring to the staff of the NatSec advisor when I say “NSC”... not the actual cabinet. The natsec staff is where policy is made - they control the entire process. They are huge and none are confirmed

I am fine in principle with a natsec advisor to the Pres and a small staff, but the position has morphed since the days of Truman. The natsec advisor now is essentially the secdef and secstate all rolled into one


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Got it. I agree, it sounds like the NatSec should rise to a level that needs confirmation. Heck, I'd make it part of the cabinet if need be.
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Re: We Need a New President...

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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 am
CID1990 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:53 am
I an referring to the staff of the NatSec advisor when I say “NSC”... not the actual cabinet. The natsec staff is where policy is made - they control the entire process. They are huge and none are confirmed

I am fine in principle with a natsec advisor to the Pres and a small staff, but the position has morphed since the days of Truman. The natsec advisor now is essentially the secdef and secstate all rolled into one

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Got it. I agree, it sounds like the NatSec should rise to a level that needs confirmation. Heck, I'd make it part of the cabinet if need be.
And it begs the question, does the natsec advisor have too much power/scope of authority?
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:32 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 am

Got it. I agree, it sounds like the NatSec should rise to a level that needs confirmation. Heck, I'd make it part of the cabinet if need be.
And it begs the question, does the natsec advisor have too much power/scope of authority?
kinda thought that's where CID was going with his rant.
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Re: We Need a New President...

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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 am Got it. I agree, it sounds like the NatSec should rise to a level that needs confirmation. Heck, I'd make it part of the cabinet if need be.
And it begs the question, does the natsec advisor have too much power/scope of authority?
winner winner chicken dinner

If Americans understood how the NSC staff works, there would be calls for accountability

Or at least calls for radically downsizing it and putting foreign policy and defense policy back in the hands of State and DoD

There is nothing wrong with Presidents having a close, trusted advisor to synthesize the voices on the cabinet, but when that advisor’s staff is calling the shots then that’s a problem


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CID1990 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:54 am
UNI88 wrote:
And it begs the question, does the natsec advisor have too much power/scope of authority?
winner winner chicken dinner

If Americans understood how the NSC staff works, there would be calls for accountability

Or at least calls for radically downsizing it and putting foreign policy and defense policy back in the hands of State and DoD

There is nothing wrong with Presidents having a close, trusted advisor to synthesize the voices on the cabinet, but when that advisor’s staff is calling the shots then that’s a problem


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"Americans" don't understand (and most don't CARE) how the government works, let alone specific departments like the NSC.

It's the primary reason why these depts have been able to run unchecked for years and years. The average American would rather turn a blind eye and go to the mall.
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Re: We Need a New President...

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:10 am
kalm wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:53 am

That’s disgusting ‘88!
Think how Kamala feels while Ol' Joe is sniffing her hair. :oops:
That’s also disgusting, 88. You’ve become a dirty old man since moving to Antifaville.
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Re: We Need a New President...

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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:25 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:10 am
Think how Kamala feels while Ol' Joe is sniffing her hair. :oops:
That’s also disgusting, 88. You’ve become a dirty old man since moving to Antifaville.
I blame it on the women with hairy pits ... :kisswink:
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Re: We Need a New President...

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 am
Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:33 am My opinion is directly related to how likely I can get a cabinet level position.
Let's fill out that cabinet ...

VP - Kalm
State - CID
Treasury - AZ
Defense - Ibanez
Justice (Attorney General) - Ivy
Interior - Winter
Agriculture - Winter
Commerce - Flaggy
Labor - Flaggy
Health and Human Services - ?
Housing and Urban Development - ?
Transportation - ?
Energy - Fiver
Education - Fiver
Veterans Affairs - Colonel Hogan
Homeland Security - CID

How would the woke left react to a conservative POTUS from Team Brown?
They'll shut up and like it. 8-)
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:36 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 am

Let's fill out that cabinet ...

VP - Kalm
State - CID
Treasury - AZ
Defense - Ibanez
Justice (Attorney General) - Ivy
Interior - Winter
Agriculture - Winter
Commerce - Flaggy
Labor - Flaggy
Health and Human Services - ?
Housing and Urban Development - ?
Transportation - ?
Energy - Fiver
Education - Fiver
Veterans Affairs - Colonel Hogan
Homeland Security - CID

How would the woke left react to a conservative POTUS from Team Brown?
They'll shut up and like it. 8-)
I don't know about that. Conservative Latinos, Conservative African-Americans, and Conservative women don't fit their narrative, so they try to silence them in order to leave the impression that they don't exist. They sure whined rather loudly when Marco Rubio and that one from TX ran for President. They were even louder while Mia Love was running for the Congress and Dr. Ben Carson was running for President. And I'm sure you heard the screams while Sarah Palin (who, though white, is also a woman) was running for Vice President....
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Re: We Need a New President...

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SDHornet wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:36 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 am

Let's fill out that cabinet ...

VP - Kalm
State - CID
Treasury - AZ
Defense - Ibanez
Justice (Attorney General) - Ivy
Interior - Winter
Agriculture - Winter
Commerce - Flaggy
Labor - Flaggy
Health and Human Services - ?
Housing and Urban Development - ?
Transportation - ?
Energy - Fiver
Education - Fiver
Veterans Affairs - Colonel Hogan
Homeland Security - CID

How would the woke left react to a conservative POTUS from Team Brown?
They'll shut up and like it. 8-)
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Re: We Need a New President...

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 am
Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:33 am My opinion is directly related to how likely I can get a cabinet level position.
Let's fill out that cabinet ...

VP - Kalm
State - CID
Treasury - AZ
Defense - Ibanez
Justice (Attorney General) - Ivy
Interior - Winter
Agriculture - Winter
Commerce - Flaggy
Labor - Flaggy
Health and Human Services - ?
Housing and Urban Development - Andy
Transportation - ?
Energy - Fiver
Education - Fiver
Veterans Affairs - Colonel Hogan
Homeland Security - CID

How would the woke left react to a conservative POTUS from Team Brown?
Andy gets HUD and we'll make him Chair not Secretary. He's lived in and near the sh!thole that is Baltimore and has real-world experience.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 am
Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:33 am My opinion is directly related to how likely I can get a cabinet level position.
Let's fill out that cabinet ...

VP - Kalm
State - CID
Treasury - AZ
Defense - Ibanez
Justice (Attorney General) - Ivy
Interior - Winter
Agriculture - Winter
Commerce - Flaggy
Labor - Flaggy
Health and Human Services - ?
Housing and Urban Development - Andy
Transportation - ?
Energy - Fiver
Education - Fiver
Veterans Affairs - Colonel Hogan
Homeland Security - CID

How would the woke left react to a conservative POTUS from Team Brown?
Ibanez at DoD? Fuuuuuuuuck No.
If you liked Bill Barr at DoJ, you'll just loooooove Ivy.
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Re: We Need a New President...

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CitadelGrad wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 am

Let's fill out that cabinet ...

VP - Kalm
State - CID
Treasury - AZ
Defense - Ibanez
Justice (Attorney General) - Ivy
Interior - Winter
Agriculture - Winter
Commerce - Flaggy
Labor - Flaggy
Health and Human Services - ?
Housing and Urban Development - Andy
Transportation - ?
Energy - Fiver
Education - Fiver
Veterans Affairs - Colonel Hogan
Homeland Security - CID

How would the woke left react to a conservative POTUS from Team Brown?
Ibanez at DoD? Fuuuuuuuuck No.
If you liked Bill Barr at DoJ, you'll just loooooove Ivy.
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CID1990 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:53 am
GannonFan wrote:
I thought most of the people on the NCS are already cabinet-level positions, and thus they do get confirmed? There are a few, NatSec among them, who aren't, but at the top level most seem to be ones requiring confirmation. I do take your point that at some level there are a bunch of unelected/unconfirmed folks who are steering policy decisions.
I an referring to the staff of the NatSec advisor when I say “NSC”... not the actual cabinet. The natsec staff is where policy is made - they control the entire process. They are huge and none are confirmed

I am fine in principle with a natsec advisor to the Pres and a small staff, but the position has morphed since the days of Truman. The natsec advisor now is essentially the secdef and secstate all rolled into one


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houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:53 am
CID1990 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:53 am
I an referring to the staff of the NatSec advisor when I say “NSC”... not the actual cabinet. The natsec staff is where policy is made - they control the entire process. They are huge and none are confirmed

I am fine in principle with a natsec advisor to the Pres and a small staff, but the position has morphed since the days of Truman. The natsec advisor now is essentially the secdef and secstate all rolled into one
I nominate BDPSHT for nutsack advisor
He has the right nut while you're responsible for the left nut.
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Re: We Need a New President...

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:36 am
houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:53 am

I nominate BDPSHT for nutsack advisor
He has the right nut while you're responsible for the left nut.
Left nut…

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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:38 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:36 am
He has the right nut while you're responsible for the left nut.
Left nut…

:ohno:
As VP, you're responsible for the schmeckle so you need to work closely with these two. :D
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:46 am
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:38 am

Left nut…

:ohno:
As VP, you're responsible for the schmeckle so you need to work closely with these two. :D
I take it you are the Chief of Staff?
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:01 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:46 am
As VP, you're responsible for the schmeckle so you need to work closely with these two. :D
I take it you are the Chief of Staff?
During the transition. After I'm moving to K Street to make millions and take Cabinet members on junkets to Bora Bora.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:01 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:46 am

As VP, you're responsible for the schmeckle so you need to work closely with these two. :D
I take it you are the Chief of Staff?
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houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:45 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:01 am
I take it you are the Chief of Staff?
Chief of Stiff
Speaking of women with hairy pits, here's Houndy. :D
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:00 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:36 pm

They'll shut up and like it. 8-)
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:48 am
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:01 am
I take it you are the Chief of Staff?
During the transition. After I'm moving to K Street to make millions and take Cabinet members on junkets to Bora Bora.
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