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[BDKJMU]

I'm getting rid of the Space Farce...FYI. it's going back where it belongs.

Navy?

Thought was Air Force?

[SuperHornet]

Navy?

Thought was Air Force?

BDK is correct. The Space Force split off from the Air Force, and is still using the same uniforms and ranks.

[Winterborn]

Thought was Air Force?

BDK is correct. The Space Force split off from the Air Force, and is still using the same uniforms and ranks.

I am aware of who it is under currently but Ibanez mentioned that he would move it back where it belongs.

Hence my question if he thought it should be the Navy.

[Ibanez]

Navy?

Thought was Air Force?

Bingo. Return it to the USAF - making it like a USN/USMC relationship.


Furthermore - no more multiple variants of the same thing just because. Variants of a plane, for example, will exist because something is truly specialized. No really reason why EACH BRANCH needs its own special version.


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[Ibanez]

BDK is correct. The Space Force split off from the Air Force, and is still using the same uniforms and ranks.

I am aware of who it is under currently but Ibanez mentioned that he would move it back where it belongs.

Hence my question if he thought it should be the Navy.

Negative ghost rider. USAF.


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[SuperHornet]

Thought was Air Force?

Bingo. Return it to the USAF - making it like a USN/USMC relationship.


Furthermore - no more multiple variants of the same thing just because. Variants of a plane, for example, will exist because something is truly specialized. No really reason why EACH BRANCH needs its own special version.


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That would mean placing the Space Force as a separate entity under SecAF, NOT actually returning the Space Force to the Air Force. And, yes, that was in my mind also. I'd also like to move the Coast Guard as a separate entity under SecNAV (keeping the current provision that during time of war, the Coast Guard becomes a temporary part of the Navy). There are a few other moves I'd make (Border Patrol under SecArmy) to disestablish DHS, too (some agencies moved, other agencies disestablished). Our government is too bloated, and the confusion over who has control when is stupid, IMO....

[Winterborn]

I am aware of who it is under currently but Ibanez mentioned that he would move it back where it belongs.

Hence my question if he thought it should be the Navy.

Negative ghost rider. USAF.


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Unless you are meaning that Space Force would stay LEO (and short missions) it would make much more sense from a logistic and operational environment to place it under the Navy. Operation outside of a LEO environment is almost identical to operating a submarine.

The USAF has zero knowledge of extended human voyages in a hostile environment. Their experiments with the x-37 are all LEO and do not involve humans living long term in space. If we are sticking to robots and bumming around Earth's exosphere, I can see leaving it in the USAF hands.

Personally once we actually have a decent population in space the Navy should have everything above the atmosphere with the Army controlling from there to dirt-side. At that time the Air Force can just go away and be back to what it was pre-1947.

[CID1990]

I agreed with carving the Space Force out of the USAF and making it its own service, under the Dept of the Air Force


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[JohnStOnge]

Obviously it'd never happen because nobody with integrity could get the Republican nomination, but I'd vote for Liz Cheney. I would not at all mind taking a shot on her as President.

[BDKJMU]

Obviously it'd never happen because nobody with integrity could get the Republican nomination, but I'd vote for Liz Cheney only because she’s a RINO who hates Donald Trump.

FIFY.

[Winterborn]

Obviously it'd never happen because nobody with integrity could get the Republican nomination, but I'd vote for Liz Cheney only because she’s a RINO who hates Donald Trump.

FIFY.

The apple never falls far from the tree.

[CID1990]

Obviously it'd never happen because nobody with integrity could get the Republican nomination, but I'd vote for Liz Cheney. I would not at all mind taking a shot on her as President.

Liz Cheney would be a great candidate

If you love neoconservatism and forever wars

You are a middling Democrat JSO, just admit it (most neocons are middling democrats... and Jews... that’s why the progs hate them)


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[houndawg]

Chief of Stiff

Speaking of women with hairy pits, here's Houndy.

UNI88


You can't do any better than that? This place is so feeble any more. I don't know why I even keep trying with the talent level so low....maybe after ALPHAGRIZ gets released......

[houndawg]

Negative ghost rider. USAF.


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Unless you are meaning that Space Force would stay LEO (and short missions) it would make much more sense from a logistic and operational environment to place it under the Navy. Operation outside of a LEO environment is almost identical to operating a submarine.

The USAF has zero knowledge of extended human voyages in a hostile environment. Their experiments with the x-37 are all LEO and do not involve humans living long term in space. If we are sticking to robots and bumming around Earth's exosphere, I can see leaving it in the USAF hands.

Personally once we actually have a decent population in space the Navy should have everything above the atmosphere with the Army controlling from there to dirt-side. At that time the Air Force can just go away and be back to what it was pre-1947.

[houndawg]

They'll shut up and like it.

I don't know about that. Conservative Latinos, Conservative African-Americans, and Conservative women don't fit their narrative, so they try to silence them in order to leave the impression that they don't exist. They sure whined rather loudly when Marco Rubio and that one from TX ran for President. They were even louder while Mia Love was running for the Congress and Dr. Ben Carson was running for President. And I'm sure you heard the screams while Sarah Palin (who, though white, is also a woman) was running for Vice President....

They can be as conservative as they wannabe but other than showing up at the polls the Republican Party wants nothing to do with anybody who isn't white other than for a bit of window dressing. They would much prefer the inbred booger-eaters from Missouri and Oklahoma. Too many mud people in the Party spoils the message.

[Ibanez]

Negative ghost rider. USAF.


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Unless you are meaning that Space Force would stay LEO (and short missions) it would make much more sense from a logistic and operational environment to place it under the Navy. Operation outside of a LEO environment is almost identical to operating a submarine.

The USAF has zero knowledge of extended human voyages in a hostile environment. Their experiments with the x-37 are all LEO and do not involve humans living long term in space. If we are sticking to robots and bumming around Earth's exosphere, I can see leaving it in the USAF hands.

Personally once we actually have a decent population in space the Navy should have everything above the atmosphere with the Army controlling from there to dirt-side. At that time the Air Force can just go away and be back to what it was pre-1947.

Or we continue to expand the USAFs purpose. I'm a fair person - draft your proposal and send it to my Assistant Secretary. I'm not going to turn away any idea to make our fictional government and military run more smoothly. I'll give them all proper consideration.

[houndawg]

Too bad we can't recall Biden as there's no provision for it in the Constitution. And the other methods of removing him (impeachment doesn't seem to apply right now and that idiot Nancy wouldn't stand for it; the other way has the same problems) won't happen with the current make-up of the Congress. There's also the drawback that the way the rules are currently written, there's a major drawback with ANY way Biden were to be removed: the next in line is that incompetent Commie Harris.

It's probably best that we look to '24. My primary choice, as always, is Sarah Palin. You all know that. You might think she's crazy, but she's not really Trump crazy. But what about a compromise candidate?

I hereby start a committee to draft SD Hornet for President! He's probably the best of all we know from a Conservative perspective to handle the White House without doing stupid crap like Trump did and without looking like a senile fool like Biden....

..don't be in such a hurry, we just got rid of the worst President we've ever had.

[Winterborn]

Unless you are meaning that Space Force would stay LEO (and short missions) it would make much more sense from a logistic and operational environment to place it under the Navy. Operation outside of a LEO environment is almost identical to operating a submarine.

The USAF has zero knowledge of extended human voyages in a hostile environment. Their experiments with the x-37 are all LEO and do not involve humans living long term in space. If we are sticking to robots and bumming around Earth's exosphere, I can see leaving it in the USAF hands.

Personally once we actually have a decent population in space the Navy should have everything above the atmosphere with the Army controlling from there to dirt-side. At that time the Air Force can just go away and be back to what it was pre-1947.

Enlighten me O wise and toothless one.

[Winterborn]

Unless you are meaning that Space Force would stay LEO (and short missions) it would make much more sense from a logistic and operational environment to place it under the Navy. Operation outside of a LEO environment is almost identical to operating a submarine.

The USAF has zero knowledge of extended human voyages in a hostile environment. Their experiments with the x-37 are all LEO and do not involve humans living long term in space. If we are sticking to robots and bumming around Earth's exosphere, I can see leaving it in the USAF hands.

Personally once we actually have a decent population in space the Navy should have everything above the atmosphere with the Army controlling from there to dirt-side. At that time the Air Force can just go away and be back to what it was pre-1947.

Or we continue to expand the USAFs purpose. I'm a fair person - draft your proposal and send it to my Assistant Secretary. I'm not going to turn away any idea to make our fictional government and military run more smoothly. I'll give them all proper consideration.

I will get a draft written up, proofed by 88, and then send it over.

[UNI88]

Speaking of women with hairy pits, here's Houndy.

UNI88

You can't do any better than that? This place is so feeble any more. I don't know why I even keep trying with the talent level so low....maybe after ALPHAGRIZ gets released......

Maybe if you posted more your contributions would be sharper and you wouldn't feel like such a schlub.

[Ibanez]

Or we continue to expand the USAFs purpose. I'm a fair person - draft your proposal and send it to my Assistant Secretary. I'm not going to turn away any idea to make our fictional government and military run more smoothly. I'll give them all proper consideration.

I will get a draft written up, proofed by 88, and then send it over.

Thanks. Be sure to bind all necessary appendixes with the following:

[Winterborn]

I will get a draft written up, proofed by 88, and then send it over.

Thanks. Be sure to bind all necessary appendixes with the following:

I got some red 3M 8979N Nuclear Grade Duct Tape if that would work as well?

[Ibanez]

Thanks. Be sure to bind all necessary appendixes with the following:

I got some red 3M 8979N Nuclear Grade Duct Tape if that would work as well?

I'll allow it.

[CitadelGrad]

I don't know about that. Conservative Latinos, Conservative African-Americans, and Conservative women don't fit their narrative, so they try to silence them in order to leave the impression that they don't exist. They sure whined rather loudly when Marco Rubio and that one from TX ran for President. They were even louder while Mia Love was running for the Congress and Dr. Ben Carson was running for President. And I'm sure you heard the screams while Sarah Palin (who, though white, is also a woman) was running for Vice President....

They can be as conservative as they wannabe but other than showing up at the polls the Republican Party wants nothing to do with anybody who isn't white other than for a bit of window dressing. They would much prefer the inbred booger-eaters from Missouri and Oklahoma. Too many mud people in the Party spoils the message.

You're from fucking southern Illinois.

[CID1990]

Too bad we can't recall Biden as there's no provision for it in the Constitution. And the other methods of removing him (impeachment doesn't seem to apply right now and that idiot Nancy wouldn't stand for it; the other way has the same problems) won't happen with the current make-up of the Congress. There's also the drawback that the way the rules are currently written, there's a major drawback with ANY way Biden were to be removed: the next in line is that incompetent Commie Harris.

It's probably best that we look to '24. My primary choice, as always, is Sarah Palin. You all know that. You might think she's crazy, but she's not really Trump crazy. But what about a compromise candidate?

I hereby start a committee to draft SD Hornet for President! He's probably the best of all we know from a Conservative perspective to handle the White House without doing stupid crap like Trump did and without looking like a senile fool like Biden....

..don't be in such a hurry, we just got rid of the worst President we've ever had.

His title is being actively challenged as we speak.

I’m actually glad Jimmy Carter has lived to see himself dethroned twice in as many years.


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