Coronavirus COVID-19

[AZGrizFan]

Part of a series, but I'll post the most relevant one:

lol. So it's everybody ELSES's fault "James" didn't get the vaccine.

Perfect.

[AZGrizFan]

Schools aren’t big soreaders. Even lefty sources admit that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... spreaders/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... rs/616669/

Don't take this as arguing with you...just it's appropriate given what you've posted.

It's anecdotal but FWIW, watching the cases spread in my school district (and as a corollary, knowing what areas of town those kids are from) has been interesting. There's an affluent school (more republican than democrat) nearby with 20 positive cases in 2 weeks with 150 kids in quarantine (that's just the elementary school). My daughter's school borders that one and is middle class (probably 50/50 Rep and Dem) and it's at 6 positive cases and 41 quarantined. It's interesting. The predominately black school - 135 quarantined/41 positive.

The full scoreboard for the 1st, 2 weeks of school

Elementary
Positive - 120
In Quarantine - 765


Middle
Positive - 91
In Quarantine - 465

High School
Positive - 48
In Quarantine - 246

That's just the student population. The # of Quarantine/Positive for staff in all 3 are 9/13.

So the kids are the one's suffering...and not only that but if a kid is in quarantine, they now have to be home and put MORE stress on their parents/families. And if they're in quarantine then their siblings, in other classes and grades, go into quarantine. Which means their parents also might have to report and go into quarantine or WFH. It's disruptive. Quarantine begets quarantine begets quarantine. It's a vicious circle that's extremely disrupting. If it really mattered to people about getting back to normal, they'd take precautions. But I think so many people aren't looking at the bigger picture. They don't realize the cascading effect. It's more than surviving an illness...it's about getting back to normal in more ways than 1.

Here in San Antonio, if a kid so much as sniffles, they send him/her home and require them to quarantine for14 days. It's fucking ridiculous....hell, the kids have figured out all they have to do is complain of the sniffles, a cough, or a headache and "BINGO!" they get to go home for two weeks...

[∞∞∞]

Part of a series, but I'll post the most relevant one:

lol. So it's everybody ELSES's fault "James" didn't get the vaccine.

Perfect.

It was ultimately his decision but the misinformation and consequences of that misinformation linger on. It doesn't end with the death of the person who believed it.

It's all so...unnecessary.

[Ibanez]

Don't take this as arguing with you...just it's appropriate given what you've posted.

It's anecdotal but FWIW, watching the cases spread in my school district (and as a corollary, knowing what areas of town those kids are from) has been interesting. There's an affluent school (more republican than democrat) nearby with 20 positive cases in 2 weeks with 150 kids in quarantine (that's just the elementary school). My daughter's school borders that one and is middle class (probably 50/50 Rep and Dem) and it's at 6 positive cases and 41 quarantined. It's interesting. The predominately black school - 135 quarantined/41 positive.

The full scoreboard for the 1st, 2 weeks of school

Elementary
Positive - 120
In Quarantine - 765


Middle
Positive - 91
In Quarantine - 465

High School
Positive - 48
In Quarantine - 246

That's just the student population. The # of Quarantine/Positive for staff in all 3 are 9/13.

So the kids are the one's suffering...and not only that but if a kid is in quarantine, they now have to be home and put MORE stress on their parents/families. And if they're in quarantine then their siblings, in other classes and grades, go into quarantine. Which means their parents also might have to report and go into quarantine or WFH. It's disruptive. Quarantine begets quarantine begets quarantine. It's a vicious circle that's extremely disrupting. If it really mattered to people about getting back to normal, they'd take precautions. But I think so many people aren't looking at the bigger picture. They don't realize the cascading effect. It's more than surviving an illness...it's about getting back to normal in more ways than 1.

Yeah, that’s alot. Of those 259 any hospitalized?

Sources (right, Europe, and even some left) were stating through this past Spring that studies showed the kids weren’t big spreaders..Doesn’t seem to be the case in your neck of the woods.

The data doesn't go that deep but that's a great question. I bet a small percentage are. The kids are big spreaders...but I have to make an assumption it's because their parents aren't vaccinated. York is less than 40% vax and surrounding counties are actually lower (except for Charlotte which is about 55%.)

There might be some numbers in the news but I honestly don't trust anything the Rock Hill Herald puts out. If someone tweets that Biden is really a Vulcan mixed with a Pomeranian, they'd run it as a banner headline for days.

Edit: Found an article with images of the dashboards.

Two weeks into school, there are just less than 1,000 active COVID-19 cases among area students and staff.

Public school districts in York, Lancaster and Chester counties combine for 990 positives. There are more than 9,200 active positives, quarantines or isolation cases — roughly the population of the City of Lancaster — across those six districts. The wide majority of all those cases involve students.

The Fort Mill School District has 1,477 students and staff in quarantine. More than half, at 765 quarantines, are elementary school students.

It's already caused caused 1 school to go virtual.

https://www.heraldonline.com/article253847313.html

[BDKJMU]

-2 weeks to stop the spread to months long to yr+ lockdowns.
-You shouldn’t wear masks.
-You should wear masks.
-You must wear masks.
-Need 70% of the adult population vaccinated.
-If you’ve been vaccinated you won’t have to wear a mask.
-You must wear a mask even if vaccinated
-Need 70% of the total population vaccinated.
-Need 80% of the total population vaccinated
-Need 90% of the total population vaccinated.
-Might need booster shots after a year.
-Will need booster shots after a year.
-Will need booster shots after 8 months..
-Will beed booster shots after 6 months.
-Will beed booster shots after 5 months.
-School kids must be vaccinated.

Next prediction in the never ending movement of the goalposts: You won’t be considered fully vaccinated unless you’ve had a 3rd (booster) shot, which will be mandated by early 2022 for everywhere that is mandating vaccines now.

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[89Hen]

I think I must be the luckiest person in the US. I still don't know anyone first hand who died or who went to the hospital with Covid. I know only one couple (husband and wife) who had bad symptoms, and that was March 2020. Gil on the other hand has lost half his family and friends to it.

[AZGrizFan]

lol. So it's everybody ELSES's fault "James" didn't get the vaccine.

Perfect.

It was ultimately his decision but the misinformation and consequences of that misinformation linger on. It doesn't end with the death of the person who believed it.

It's all so...unnecessary.

Well he blamed everyone BUT his own brother. Very “progressive” of him.

[GannonFan]

I think I must be the luckiest person in the US. I still don't know anyone first hand who died or who went to the hospital with Covid. I know only one couple (husband and wife) who had bad symptoms, and that was March 2020. Gil on the other hand has lost half his family and friends to it.

Nah, I'm right there with you. I don't know a single person first hand who went to the hospital with COVID, let alone died from it. And my parents have been in a retirement home all this time and haven't heard any from there. Gil has to be tremendously unlucky (or lucky, considering that he's still kicking despite being surrounded by so much tragedy).

[BDKJMU]

One big postive from the last year and a half is the huge increase in homeschooling, esp in blue states. 1st driver was the remote learning, which has been a huge negative for kids overall, Now a 2nd year of mask mandates for kids, esp in blue states, and what looks like will eventually be China Virus vaccine mandates for kids, at least in blue states..

[SeattleGriz]

Scheduled an appointment for tomorrow to get COVID antibody tested. Let you guys know when I get the results.

Obviously I'm not sick, just wanted to know immunity status.

I can think of two instances in the last year it could have been, but with school age kids in the house, probably just regular seasonal crap.

[SDHornet]

I'd like to see the data on the Delta variant, but schools are ripe for community spread so we vaccinate kids from things that may not necessarily kill them. We also have no idea, although getting a better understanding, or the long-term effects of Covid.

I'd like to not risk an entire generation to the unknown long-term effects of a virus.

But you’re fine risking an entire generation to the unknown long-term effects of a brand new vaccine..

He doesn't have kids, he doesn't get it. Probably never will until he has them. Having kids is a massive mindset change. Trip, that's not a knock on you, just telling it like it is.


Since everyone is going with anecdotal stories, mine is that I have yet to have a vaccinated acquaintance (friend, family, coworker) say they would take the boosters. This over a dozen folks. Should make things interesting when the vax passports get rolled out because we all know "fully vaxed" only means that you are up to date on your booster shots.

[SDHornet]

Part of a series, but I'll post the most relevant one:

lol. So it's everybody ELSES's fault "James" didn't get the vaccine.

Perfect.

It's always someone else's fault. Pretty damn near zero personal responsibility in society today.

Also what comorbidities did James have?

[SDHornet]

Scheduled an appointment for tomorrow to get COVID antibody tested. Let you guys know when I get the results.

Obviously I'm not sick, just wanted to know immunity status.

I can think of two instances in the last year it could have been, but with school age kids in the house, probably just regular seasonal crap.

I've been thinking about that for me as well. Only test I had for it was in Mexico since it was needed to get back stateside...

...and I'm sure the "test" that ran was just so they can charge me $30 per test. Never doubted it would be "negative" as that would mean the whole resort would have had to shut down.

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But you’re fine risking an entire generation to the unknown long-term effects of a brand new vaccine..

He doesn't have kids, he doesn't get it. Probably never will until he has them. Having kids is a massive mindset change. Trip, that's not a knock on you, just telling it like it is.


Since everyone is going with anecdotal stories, mine is that I have yet to have a vaccinated acquaintance (friend, family, coworker) say they would take the boosters. This over a dozen folks. Should make things interesting when the vax passports get rolled out because we all know "fully vaxed" only means that you are up to date on your booster shots.

First of all, I don't want kids and neither does my better half.

Second, I'm sure it would change me. That said, I'd inject them with every and any vaccine their doctor recommended. My parents did it to me and their grandparents did it to them. Despite being raised to believe in God, I was also raised to believe in science. And while I'm an atheist now, I was told that God can't help you with everything...that it was He who created knowledge and the ability to use it.

[SDHornet]

He doesn't have kids, he doesn't get it. Probably never will until he has them. Having kids is a massive mindset change. Trip, that's not a knock on you, just telling it like it is.


Since everyone is going with anecdotal stories, mine is that I have yet to have a vaccinated acquaintance (friend, family, coworker) say they would take the boosters. This over a dozen folks. Should make things interesting when the vax passports get rolled out because we all know "fully vaxed" only means that you are up to date on your booster shots.

First of all, I don't want kids and neither does my better half.

Second, I'm sure it would change me. That said, I'd inject them with every and any vaccine their doctor recommended. My parents did it to me and their grandparents did it to them. Despite being raised to believe in God, I was also raised to believe in science. And while I'm an atheist now, I was told that God can't help you with everything...that it was He who created knowledge and the ability to use it.

Kids are wonderful, hope you have one or two but totally understand not wanting any. I was in that mindset once.

There you go conflating the "anti-vax" narrative with those questioning the application of the China Virus vax. What we are dealing with is nothing like the vaccines you or I or my kid has been inoculated with.

[SeattleGriz]

Scheduled an appointment for tomorrow to get COVID antibody tested. Let you guys know when I get the results.

Obviously I'm not sick, just wanted to know immunity status.

I can think of two instances in the last year it could have been, but with school age kids in the house, probably just regular seasonal crap.

I've been thinking about that for me as well. Only test I had for it was in Mexico since it was needed to get back stateside...

...and I'm sure the "test" that ran was just so they can charge me $30 per test. Never doubted it would be "negative" as that would mean the whole resort would have had to shut down.

I'm going through LabCorp as they have a draw station close by and they provide the doctor to sign off on it, as you need a doctor to order the test. $10 for the "guest doctor" fee and we'll see how much insurance covers, but at worst, will only be $42. So $52 max, but my insurance should cover all the 42.

[SeattleGriz]

He doesn't have kids, he doesn't get it. Probably never will until he has them. Having kids is a massive mindset change. Trip, that's not a knock on you, just telling it like it is.


Since everyone is going with anecdotal stories, mine is that I have yet to have a vaccinated acquaintance (friend, family, coworker) say they would take the boosters. This over a dozen folks. Should make things interesting when the vax passports get rolled out because we all know "fully vaxed" only means that you are up to date on your booster shots.

First of all, I don't want kids and neither does my better half.

Second, I'm sure it would change me. That said, I'd inject them with every and any vaccine their doctor recommended. My parents did it to me and their grandparents did it to them. Despite being raised to believe in God, I was also raised to believe in science. And while I'm an atheist now, I was told that God can't help you with everything...that it was He who created knowledge and the ability to use it.

The difference in shots from my 15 yr old to my 7 yr old was pretty noticeable. I did turn down the Hep B shot for my youngest as he had only been outside the womb about four hours before they asked if the could vaccinate him. Let him get his feet under him and our family doctor can put him on a schedule.

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I have nothing more to add than what I have in this thread; some of you are clearly glossing over my more detailed posts.

At this point, I simply hope no CS user, no child of a CS user, no relatives of a CS user, nor anyone else they love gets sick from SARS-CoV-2, suffers long-term health effects from the virus, or dies from it. I've had it, it's not fun, and I wish it on no one.

[SDHornet]

First of all, I don't want kids and neither does my better half.

Second, I'm sure it would change me. That said, I'd inject them with every and any vaccine their doctor recommended. My parents did it to me and their grandparents did it to them. Despite being raised to believe in God, I was also raised to believe in science. And while I'm an atheist now, I was told that God can't help you with everything...that it was He who created knowledge and the ability to use it.

The difference in shots from my 15 yr old to my 7 yr old was pretty noticeable. I did turn down the Hep B shot for my youngest as he had only been outside the womb about four hours before they asked if the could vaccinate him. Let him get his feet under him and our family doctor can put him on a schedule.

I spread the shots for my kid across as many months as possible. She was a handful of months old before we started the vaccination process.

[Gil Dobie]

Don't take this as arguing with you...just it's appropriate given what you've posted.

It's anecdotal but FWIW, watching the cases spread in my school district (and as a corollary, knowing what areas of town those kids are from) has been interesting. There's an affluent school (more republican than democrat) nearby with 20 positive cases in 2 weeks with 150 kids in quarantine (that's just the elementary school). My daughter's school borders that one and is middle class (probably 50/50 Rep and Dem) and it's at 6 positive cases and 41 quarantined. It's interesting. The predominately black school - 135 quarantined/41 positive.

The full scoreboard for the 1st, 2 weeks of school

Elementary
Positive - 120
In Quarantine - 765


Middle
Positive - 91
In Quarantine - 465

High School
Positive - 48
In Quarantine - 246

That's just the student population. The # of Quarantine/Positive for staff in all 3 are 9/13.

So the kids are the one's suffering...and not only that but if a kid is in quarantine, they now have to be home and put MORE stress on their parents/families. And if they're in quarantine then their siblings, in other classes and grades, go into quarantine. Which means their parents also might have to report and go into quarantine or WFH. It's disruptive. Quarantine begets quarantine begets quarantine. It's a vicious circle that's extremely disrupting. If it really mattered to people about getting back to normal, they'd take precautions. But I think so many people aren't looking at the bigger picture. They don't realize the cascading effect. It's more than surviving an illness...it's about getting back to normal in more ways than 1.

Here in San Antonio, if a kid so much as sniffles, they send him/her home and require them to quarantine for14 days. It's fucking ridiculous....hell, the kids have figured out all they have to do is complain of the sniffles, a cough, or a headache and "BINGO!" they get to go home for two weeks...

Same here, except you can go back sooner with a negative test from family. We did that for my grandson last year. Spit test was free at the time, and 24 hour results.

[kalm]

-2 weeks to stop the spread to months long to yr+ lockdowns.
-You shouldn’t wear masks.
-You should wear masks.
-You must wear masks.
-Need 70% of the adult population vaccinated.
-If you’ve been vaccinated you won’t have to wear a mask.
-You must wear a mask even if vaccinated
-Need 70% of the total population vaccinated.
-Need 80% of the total population vaccinated
-Need 90% of the total population vaccinated.
-Might need booster shots after a year.
-Will need booster shots after a year.
-Will need booster shots after 8 months..
-Will beed booster shots after 6 months.
-Will beed booster shots after 5 months.
-School kids must be vaccinated.

Next prediction in the never ending movement of the goalposts: You won’t be considered fully vaccinated unless you’ve had a 3rd (booster) shot, which will be mandated by early 2022 for everywhere that is mandating vaccines now.

-

…He yelled at a virus which doesn’t watch football…

[kalm]

Part of a series, but I'll post the most relevant one:

Sad…is the only reasonable initial response to this.

[kalm]

Once again…it’s not the disease that’s disheartening…it’s the denial.

Like deja vu all over again.

[Ibanez]

The difference in shots from my 15 yr old to my 7 yr old was pretty noticeable. I did turn down the Hep B shot for my youngest as he had only been outside the womb about four hours before they asked if the could vaccinate him. Let him get his feet under him and our family doctor can put him on a schedule.

I spread the shots for my kid across as many months as possible. She was a handful of months old before we started the vaccination process.

Same here PLUS, I want to say there was a vaccine (a shot at least) for an STD that we did later b/c it seemed pointless and my wife doesn't have any STDs.

[Ibanez]

So i've told you all about my sister. I was talking to her last night and her hospital is full. Last night there were 90 people in the ER waiting to go to a room. ICU is full. They are laying on the floors b/c there isn't any place to go. They are only turning away out of state COVID patients. The other hospitals are turning everyone away. They are seeing simple medical issues b/c a problem b/c the level and timeliness of care just in there. In fact, they are so overwhelmed that they can't even provide the best standard of care for everyone - therefore there's a moral distress. Already many nurses and doctors have taken a leave of absence or are in therapy due to the overwhelming workload with no sign of relief.

She also said she's amazed at how many people are vaccine hesitant b/c of the micro chip that's in it. They don't want to be tracked...as if they aren't already with phones, computers, smart watches, etc..