Where do we go to war next?

[∞∞∞]

Tempered was a poor choice of words. I hope that isn't the point people got out of that post...

[Winterborn]

I always thought U.S. politicians should pay more attention to the history and background on why it all started and continued to fester.

That would require effort...and intelligence.

Honestly - I've not read enough about the subject to speak with a hint..a modicum of authority (as much as is required on Cs.com, at least. ) but from I have read and learned...I wouldn't call IRA bombings tempered. Also - just because the Troubles ended in the 1990s, doesn't mean the conflicts are over. Just about each year from 1998 (99?) there have been multiple incidents.

Calling The Troubles "tempered" is like calling The Terror a minor event - it was THAT bad...you know.

I am about in the same boat. "Tempered" is not the word I would of used but that is just me.

I work with a guy that spent 5 years based in Southern England and was in Northern Ireland on a regular basis for work in the early 90's. He told me a couple of stories over the last few years that would raise you hair.

Almost got caught up in a "incident" except for the guy he worked close with told him to take a different route back to his hotel that evening. Bars that depending on what beer you ordered meant that you were on one side or the other and heaven help if you ordered the wrong one as a tourist.

[Ibanez]

I'm sorry. I don't see how a 30 year irregular war, that was preceded by the Home Rule Crisis and War for Irish Independence in the early 20th century (essentially before and after the partition of Ireland), not to mention the CENTURIES of colonization, hunger, murder, strife was just tempered. You can just about trace the entire conflict back to the Acts of Union of 1800.


The Troubles were merely the "endgame."

Don't they go back even further than that? I thought QE1 was pretty influential in shaping modern day Northern Ireland. That's back to at least 1580. And frankly she wasn't the first to get involved there.

You're going back to Ulster Plantation as well as the Penal Laws...yeah I guess you're right. So roughly, 365 years of oppression, hunger, colonization to include various wars and conflicts all gave rise to a "tempered" 30 years conflict.

[Ibanez]

Tempered was a poor choice of words. I hope that isn't the point people got out of that post...

The point is that war is nasty, hellish, brutal, awful, sinful, disgusting and horrible.

[Ibanez]

That would require effort...and intelligence.

Honestly - I've not read enough about the subject to speak with a hint..a modicum of authority (as much as is required on Cs.com, at least. ) but from I have read and learned...I wouldn't call IRA bombings tempered. Also - just because the Troubles ended in the 1990s, doesn't mean the conflicts are over. Just about each year from 1998 (99?) there have been multiple incidents.

Calling The Troubles "tempered" is like calling The Terror a minor event - it was THAT bad...you know.

I am about in the same boat. "Tempered" is not the word I would of used but that is just me.

I work with a guy that spent 5 years based in Southern England and was in Northern Ireland on a regular basis for work in the early 90's. He told me a couple of stories over the last few years that would raise you hair.

Almost got caught up in a "incident" except for the guy he worked close with told him to take a different route back to his hotel that evening. Bars that depending on what beer you ordered meant that you were on one side or the other and heaven help if you ordered the wrong one as a tourist.

I'd love to hear those stories. I used to work with a former Soviet officer. He had some cool stories.

[Winterborn]

I am about in the same boat. "Tempered" is not the word I would of used but that is just me.

I work with a guy that spent 5 years based in Southern England and was in Northern Ireland on a regular basis for work in the early 90's. He told me a couple of stories over the last few years that would raise you hair.

Almost got caught up in a "incident" except for the guy he worked close with told him to take a different route back to his hotel that evening. Bars that depending on what beer you ordered meant that you were on one side or the other and heaven help if you ordered the wrong one as a tourist.

I'd love to hear those stories. I used to work with a former Soviet officer. He had some cool stories.

Next time we have a beer, remind me.

That guy had a bunch of cool stories, he worked all over the world and his job got him into a few areas that he said reporters were not even allowed in just due to the fact that the government wanted their equipment.

[Ibanez]

I'd love to hear those stories. I used to work with a former Soviet officer. He had some cool stories.

Next time we have a beer, remind me.

That guy had a bunch of cool stories, he worked all over the world and his job got him into a few areas that he said reporters were not even allowed in just due to the fact that the government wanted their equipment.

Well next time you're on this side of the country, i'll buy you a few beers in return for some stories.

[kalm]

By comparison to some it was.

We tend to pick and choose the value of life on a whim.

EG’s: we are extremely concerned about the value of afghani lives and the soldiers killed recently.

Blue lives matter.

I'm sorry. I don't see how a 30 year irregular war, that was preceded by the Home Rule Crisis and War for Irish Independence in the early 20th century (essentially before and after the partition of Ireland), not to mention the CENTURIES of colonization, hunger, murder, strife was just tempered. You can just about trace the entire conflict back to the Acts of Union of 1800.


The Troubles were merely the "endgame."

Ok but that’s kind of my point. We’re selective and sometimes flippant when it comes to turmoil and value of life.

[kalm]

Tempered was a poor choice of words. I hope that isn't the point people got out of that post...

The point is that war is nasty, hellish, brutal, awful, sinful, disgusting and horrible.

Indeed.

[Winterborn]

Next time we have a beer, remind me.

That guy had a bunch of cool stories, he worked all over the world and his job got him into a few areas that he said reporters were not even allowed in just due to the fact that the government wanted their equipment.

Well next time you're on this side of the country, i'll buy you a few beers in return for some stories.

Deal

[Winterborn]

I'm sorry. I don't see how a 30 year irregular war, that was preceded by the Home Rule Crisis and War for Irish Independence in the early 20th century (essentially before and after the partition of Ireland), not to mention the CENTURIES of colonization, hunger, murder, strife was just tempered. You can just about trace the entire conflict back to the Acts of Union of 1800.


The Troubles were merely the "endgame."

Ok but that’s kind of my point. We’re selective and sometimes flippant when it comes to turmoil and value of life.

You just got a big heart.

No homo.

[kalm]

Ok but that’s kind of my point. We’re selective and sometimes flippant when it comes to turmoil and value of life.

You just got a big heart.

No homo.

Fuck off, cunt.

Spoiler: show

[Winterborn]

You just got a big heart.

No homo.

Fuck off, cunt.

Spoiler: show

Hey, somebody has to make up for us cold hearted folks.

[UNI88]

By comparison to some it was.

We tend to pick and choose the value of life on a whim.

EG’s: we are extremely concerned about the value of afghani lives and the soldiers killed recently.

Blue lives matter.

I'm sorry. I don't see how a 30 year irregular war, that was preceded by the Home Rule Crisis and War for Irish Independence in the early 20th century (essentially before and after the partition of Ireland), not to mention the CENTURIES of colonization, hunger, murder, strife was just tempered. You can just about trace the entire conflict back to the Acts of Union of 1800.

The Troubles were merely the "endgame."

The thousands that suffered and died had paler skin so their deaths weren't as significant. The pendulum is swinging beyond equilibrium and dragging history with it.

[UNI88]

Or the Cleveland Indians.

Or 10,000 Maniacs.

(They had an album titled “In my Tribe”.

It's probably not a good joke if you need to explain it.

[AZGrizFan]

AZ killing his family to own the libs.

I wish I didn't jest about the civil war thing, or this entire thread really.

I'm echoing people who have seen the brutality of war (soldiers, immigrants, own family), but the sheer waste of human life and absolute misery isn't something you want at your front door for all the love or money in the world. Look around you....you want to bring Syria, Iraq, Beirut, or even a tempered conflict like the Troubles to your loved ones, your children, your family?

You want to destroy everything we've built, ruin the economy, collapse the dollar, bring in foreign troops to our land?

For Americans who don't know a day of real suffering, civil war isn't akin to some sport. It'll be years of asymmetrical warfare complete with death and destruction of all things in its way.

Good lord. You took my post seriously?

And the only “foreign troops” would be mercenaries. They ain’t coming draped in their country’s flag.

[UNI88]

AZ killing his family to own the libs.

I wish I didn't jest about the civil war thing, or this entire thread really.

I'm echoing people who have seen the brutality of war (soldiers, immigrants, own family), but the sheer waste of human life and absolute misery isn't something you want at your front door for all the love or money in the world. Look around you....you want to bring Syria, Iraq, Beirut, or even a tempered conflict like the Troubles to your loved ones, your children, your family?

You want to destroy everything we've built, ruin the economy, collapse the dollar, bring in foreign troops to our land?

For Americans who don't know a day of real suffering, civil war isn't akin to some sport. It'll be years of asymmetrical warfare complete with death and destruction of all things in its way.

Good lord. You took my post seriously?

89 is ahead of the game. He's been taking out members of the liberal tribe for quite awhile.

[kalm]

Or 10,000 Maniacs.

(They had an album titled “In my Tribe”.

It's probably not a good joke if you need to explain it.

I know my audience…

[UNI88]

It's probably not a good joke if you need to explain it.

I know my audience…

Ok Geronimo. Just call me Quanah88, stuck between 2 worlds.

[houndawg]

I'm thinking a straightforward target like Nicaragua under the guise of freedom. Score some brownie points, funnel some money to defense contractors, get an easy win in our own hemisphere.

Other choices include Yemen or a dark horse like Belarus. Perhaps we send troops to liberate Crimea? What about Venezuela?

Of course we've still got the rest of the "Axis of Evil" to deal with: Iran and North Korea. Boring but obvious targets.

Does anyone know if some place in Africa needs freedom bombs dropped?

Also who gets us into the next one? Biden, Trump, Harris, DeSantis, Haley?

Discuss.

ps. Civil War is also an option.

You'd think we'd be getting smarter about land wars in Asia.

If we'd just confine ourselves to the New World we could afford a lot more wars

[houndawg]

AZ killing his family to own the libs.

I wish I didn't jest about the civil war thing, or this entire thread really.

I'm echoing people who have seen the brutality of war (soldiers, immigrants, own family), but the sheer waste of human life and absolute misery isn't something you want at your front door for all the love or money in the world. Look around you....you want to bring Syria, Iraq, Beirut, or even a tempered conflict like the Troubles to your loved ones, your children, your family?

You want to destroy everything we've built, ruin the economy, collapse the dollar, bring in foreign troops to our land?

For Americans who don't know a day of real suffering, civil war isn't akin to some sport. It'll be years of asymmetrical warfare complete with death and destruction of all things in its way.

Hyperbole much? No doubt, war is absolutely devastating, but we aren't anywhere in the vicinity of a real civil war in this country. A few hundred mostly unarmed mouth breathers walking around the Capitol Building taking pictures isn't a civil war. And those were the super-motivated types as well. Jeopardy not being able to pick a permanent host isn't the sign of the apocalypse either. I'm not counting on a real civil war in this country in my lifetime, and I'm still on the younger side of 50 right now.

Those poser cunts were too chickenshit to go for the gold. But there hasn't been a more heartwarming spectacle for years than watching two groups both riddled with white supremacists beating the fuck out of each other and Congresspeople cowering under their desks like kids at Parkland.

[Baldy]

It'll prolly be the UK.

[Winterborn]

It'll prolly be the UK.

It would be a funny reversal and payback for the War of 1812.


That said, no idea why you would want to anger one of our oldest allies.

[kalm]

I know my audience…

Ok Geronimo. Just call me Quanah88, stuck between 2 worlds.

Oh good god…what in the overly earnest 80’s cheese rock hell is that?

Mrs. kalm is an April Wine fan…she’ll probably like it.

[CID1990]

It'll prolly be the UK.

It would be a funny reversal and payback for the War of 1812.


That said, no idea why you would want to anger one of our oldest allies.

Remember when Trump was going to ruin our relations with our allies?

Good times


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