Coronavirus COVID-19

[BDKJMU]

The CDC advised all unvaxxed people not to travle this LaborbDay weekend. What complete baloney. What about people who had the China Virus recently and have natural immunity?

[kalm]

Shocker!





https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/ ... uXqu-VRD70

Did you actually read the entire paper this time or just the abstract again?

I’ll wait for you nerds with time on your hands to break down the findings and cast your monkey wrenches.

Me? I’m going to tie up poppers for late summer smallies interested in some top water action, Cotton.

[Winterborn]

Sounds like about 4-5 days? As far as his stance, he stated that he wasn't a doctor, but a moron. Also still feels there are those that don't need to get the vaccine.

Didn't he have a doctor on a few days ago telling him he's wrong? Yet continued to spread misinformation, gets COVID, receives at least one expensive treatment others rarely get, then goes "SEE THIS WORKS!" Plus I don't know about you, but this is a really tough decision:

Option A -

COVID vaccine

Option B -

Monoclonal antibodies
Cattle dewormer - Ivermectin
Z Pack
Prednisone
NAD & Vitamin IVs (3 days in a row)

To be honest, I have a gut feeling he's vaccinated and this is just one of those things to continue the grift. Considering his cult of personality, dude's indirectly responsible for at least a few thousand deaths with the garbage he says on air.

So he, as a radio host, had the audacity to survive the Whuhan Weeze. It is something that is 99.8% survivable for a healthy population and his surviving is definitely not abnormal. Not sure what, other than he has a differing opinion than you do, that this is a big deal? So he didn't take the greatest drug invention since penicillin and defied the great all knowing heroic Dr. Fauci. Whoop-de-do.

And before Kalm bites on this post like a trout on a Copper Fly, yes he is going to give people that should take the vaccine false hope because they are fat, have compatibilities, etc. and do not fit his health profile. This illness is not a strait up death sentence. Yes the vaccine will help lower the initial symptoms of the illness and provide some coverage for about 6-8 months. But the vaccine is not the only way of surviving this and for a certain part of the population it is the best way but for others it is more of a wash.

We do not know the long term affects of the vaccine nor do we know the long term affects of COVID. Stupid people on both sides of the spectrum exist, welcome to life. There are no guarantees in it and we are all dead men walking. Might as well go fishing, have a beer, and enjoy the sunset while we can.

Which brings me to my next point. Have you ever colored outside of the lines before? And are you aware that not everybody likes to follow a set coloring book and maybe they like to make their own art? The reason I ask is you seem very comfortable and actually desire to be told what to do, when to do it, and like the structure and peace a big government bureaucracy gives you. You know your lane and are happy to stay in it.

I have zero problem with people thinking that way and support your every right to have those thoughts but forgive me for not following along and thinking "Bless your heart".

As for your last sentence, is that the same gut feeling that says Hamas is a peaceful organization and if only Israel would give them what they want there would be no more issues?

[Winterborn]

Did you actually read the entire paper this time or just the abstract again?

I’ll wait for you nerds with time on your hands to break down the findings and cast your monkey wrenches.

Me? I’m going to tie up poppers for late summer smallies interested in some top water action, Cotton.

Gah! We have been duped into doing your work.

On the other hand, well done.

[SeattleGriz]

The CDC advised all unvaxxed people not to travle this LaborbDay weekend. What complete baloney. What about people who had the China Virus recently and have natural immunity?

In light of the breakthrough cases and the recent preprint demonstrating vaccine titers drop up to 40% monthly after vaccination, how are we to know who is still protected by their vaccination?

I keep hoping the rapid drop of titers and it's demonstration the vaccine is having trouble "training" the immune system is only limited to those with poor immunological health. Not to say I want them to suffer, just hope it is limited in scope.

I worry about our vaccinated healthcare workers and if they will unwittingly vector in the virus to those more susceptible.

[Ivytalk]

I’ve been a “big titter” all my life.

[kalm]

Didn't he have a doctor on a few days ago telling him he's wrong? Yet continued to spread misinformation, gets COVID, receives at least one expensive treatment others rarely get, then goes "SEE THIS WORKS!" Plus I don't know about you, but this is a really tough decision:

Option A -

COVID vaccine

Option B -

Monoclonal antibodies
Cattle dewormer - Ivermectin
Z Pack
Prednisone
NAD & Vitamin IVs (3 days in a row)

To be honest, I have a gut feeling he's vaccinated and this is just one of those things to continue the grift. Considering his cult of personality, dude's indirectly responsible for at least a few thousand deaths with the garbage he says on air.

So he, as a radio host, had the audacity to survive the Whuhan Weeze. It is something that is 99.8% survivable for a healthy population and his surviving is definitely not abnormal. Not sure what, other than he has a differing opinion than you do, that this is a big deal? So he didn't take the greatest drug invention since penicillin and defied the great all knowing heroic Dr. Fauci. Whoop-de-do.

And before Kalm bites on this post like a trout on a Copper Fly, yes he is going to give people that should take the vaccine false hope because they are fat, have compatibilities, etc. and do not fit his health profile. This illness is not a strait up death sentence. Yes the vaccine will help lower the initial symptoms of the illness and provide some coverage for about 6-8 months. But the vaccine is not the only way of surviving this and for a certain part of the population it is the best way but for others it is more of a wash.

We do not know the long term affects of the vaccine nor do we know the long term affects of COVID. Stupid people on both sides of the spectrum exist, welcome to life. There are no guarantees in it and we are all dead men walking. Might as well go fishing, have a beer, and enjoy the sunset while we can.

Which brings me to my next point. Have you ever colored outside of the lines before? And are you aware that not everybody likes to follow a set coloring book and maybe they like to make their own art? The reason I ask is you seem very comfortable and actually desire to be told what to do, when to do it, and like the structure and peace a big government bureaucracy gives you. You know your lane and are happy to stay in it.

I have zero problem with people thinking that way and support your every right to have those thoughts but forgive me for not following along and thinking "Bless your heart".

As for your last sentence, is that the same gut feeling that says Hamas is a peaceful organization and if only Israel would give them what they want there would be no more issues?

They’re called “Copper Johns”.



I’m thoughtful enough to pronounce Bizon with “z” and you can’t accurately name a searching/attractor nymph?



Sometimes coloring within the lines is necessary.

[∞∞∞]

This 99.8% survivability needs to stop. Something like 10% require hospitalization, 30%+ have long-term side-effects, and people are filling up hospitals and denying care to those who can think beyond themselves.

It's also incorrect because it gives a false sense of how statistics work. As a whole, it's that survivable (although probably less considering the excess deaths we see), but as an individual - depending on a bunch of factors - you need to accurately weigh your chance of dying, being hospitalized, etc. You can't take 99.8% as your risk factor. Math.

For example, I highly doubt 99.8% applies to most people on this site. But sure, it applies across all groups. However we aren't a nation of 330,000,000 replica individuals.

I will ignore the rest of your drivel.

[SeattleGriz]

I’ve been a “big titter” all my life.

[Winterborn]

They’re called “Copper Johns”.



I’m thoughtful enough to pronounce Bizon with “z” and you can’t accurately name a searching/attractor nymph?



Sometimes coloring within the lines is necessary.

My apologies, I did type it in wrong. But to my defense, I am not used to dealing with Nymphs that small. Usually they are around a buck 20 soaking wet.


As for coloring in or out of the lines. It depends on the topic.

[Winterborn]

This 99.8% survivability needs to stop. Something like 10% require hospitalization, 30%+ have long-term side-effects, and people are filling up hospitals and denying care to those who can think beyond themselves.

It's also incorrect because it gives a false sense of how statistics work. As a whole, it's that survivable (although probably less considering the excess deaths we see), but as an individual - depending on a bunch of factors - you need to accurately weigh your chance of dying, being hospitalized, etc. You can't take 99.8% as your risk factor. Math.

For example, I highly doubt 99.8% applies to most people on this site. But sure, it applies across all groups. However we aren't a nation of 330,000,000 replica individuals.

I will ignore the rest of your drivel.

Perfectly reasonable since I ignore your ignorance except when I need a good laugh and JSO hasn't posted in awhile.

[kalm]

The CDC advised all unvaxxed people not to travle this LaborbDay weekend. What complete baloney. What about people who had the China Virus recently and have natural immunity?

In light of the breakthrough cases and the recent preprint demonstrating vaccine titers drop up to 40% monthly after vaccination, how are we to know who is still protected by their vaccination?

I keep hoping the rapid drop of titers and it's demonstration the vaccine is having trouble "training" the immune system is only limited to those with poor immunological health. Not to say I want them to suffer, just hope it is limited in scope.

I worry about our vaccinated healthcare workers and if they will unwittingly vector in the virus to those more susceptible.

It still helps.

I have a friend who’s a nurse at Spokane’s largest hospital. She’s worried about a nursing shortage if her co-workers follow through with their refusal to get vaccinated by the deadline.

[89Hen]

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/95 ... 9574&faf=1

Many Americans are clamoring for a booster dose of a COVID-19 vaccine after reports of rising numbers of breakthrough infections. Demand only increased after the Biden administration said they would begin offering those shots on September 20.

That plan, which was first announced on August 18, has raised eyebrows because it comes in advance of regulatory reviews by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Those reviews are needed to determine whether third doses of these vaccines are effective or even safe. The move could have important legal ramifications for doctors and patients, too.

On Tuesday, two high-level officials in the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review abruptly resigned amid reports that they were angry that the Biden administration was making decisions that should be left up to that agency.

[SeattleGriz]

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/95 ... 9574&faf=1

Many Americans are clamoring for a booster dose of a COVID-19 vaccine after reports of rising numbers of breakthrough infections. Demand only increased after the Biden administration said they would begin offering those shots on September 20.

That plan, which was first announced on August 18, has raised eyebrows because it comes in advance of regulatory reviews by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Those reviews are needed to determine whether third doses of these vaccines are effective or even safe. The move could have important legal ramifications for doctors and patients, too.

On Tuesday, two high-level officials in the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review abruptly resigned amid reports that they were angry that the Biden administration was making decisions that should be left up to that agency.

There was supposed to be open discussion and review of trial results before the Pfizer vaccine got approval, but that did not happen.

[SDHornet]

I don't know what to say. This is the fourth wave; I can't exactly change reality lol. I haven't heard any source call it anything else.

Well what the hell not!?
So the 1st wave was January - May/June ish? Then a lull..then the 2nd wave from Summer through fall...then a lull...then the 3rd wave in the winter..then a lull...then a 4th wave in July 2021.

I'll be damned...I can see 4 waves of it. I've never really thought about it, to be fair.

I always figured the riots/protests created the 2nd wave, therefore was just an extension of the 1st wave. Oh well, semantics at this point.

[SDHornet]

Although vaccinated people are now suffering due to the lack of hospital beds, and there's a worrying, rising trend of children getting bad Covid symptoms too.

The kid thing may or may not be anything - even now, the high end estimate of kids getting a severe case of COVID is like 1% of all infections among kids, and that's the high end. That's pretty small. But, still all the more reason for the government to get the vaccine approved for the under-12 set. That's been a failing of this response to COVID. We've had the vaccine for about 10 months now, and we're still several months away, at best, from having the recommended dosage amount for the under-12 set. That continues to be a missed aspect of this.

Hard pass on putting this shit in my kid. Numbers just don't support it.

[SDHornet]

The kid thing may or may not be anything - even now, the high end estimate of kids getting a severe case of COVID is like 1% of all infections among kids, and that's the high end. That's pretty small. But, still all the more reason for the government to get the vaccine approved for the under-12 set. That's been a failing of this response to COVID. We've had the vaccine for about 10 months now, and we're still several months away, at best, from having the recommended dosage amount for the under-12 set. That continues to be a missed aspect of this.

I don't know the specifics, but from what I've read it's a lack of data. The first vaccine was developed quickly because there was an overwhelming amount of volunteers. Getting data on younger people is tougher, especially under-12 as we need caretakers to basically volunteer children for clinical trials. And it needs to have enough variety with regards to age, sex, race, etc.

Without that data, you'd (rightfully) be accused of rushing a vaccine without the proper safety precautions.

Really puts forth the importance of society protecting the weakest among them, and why getting vaccinated is so important.

The data on child deaths is there. See above post.

[SDHornet]

This 99.8% survivability needs to stop. Something like 10% require hospitalization, 30%+ have long-term side-effects, and people are filling up hospitals and denying care to those who can think beyond themselves.

It's also incorrect because it gives a false sense of how statistics work. As a whole, it's that survivable (although probably less considering the excess deaths we see), but as an individual - depending on a bunch of factors - you need to accurately weigh your chance of dying, being hospitalized, etc. You can't take 99.8% as your risk factor. Math.

For example, I highly doubt 99.8% applies to most people on this site. But sure, it applies across all groups. However we aren't a nation of 330,000,000 replica individuals.

I will ignore the rest of your drivel.

WB isn't far off. Anyone that knows how to read a graph on the China Virus data that breakdowns the various demographics should be able to ascertain whether they need the vax or not. It's a personal choice.



Btw, great post WB. Spot on with ever single sentence.

[SDHornet]

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/95 ... 9574&faf=1

Many Americans are clamoring for a booster dose of a COVID-19 vaccine after reports of rising numbers of breakthrough infections. Demand only increased after the Biden administration said they would begin offering those shots on September 20.

That plan, which was first announced on August 18, has raised eyebrows because it comes in advance of regulatory reviews by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Those reviews are needed to determine whether third doses of these vaccines are effective or even safe. The move could have important legal ramifications for doctors and patients, too.

On Tuesday, two high-level officials in the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review abruptly resigned amid reports that they were angry that the Biden administration was making decisions that should be left up to that agency.

Good job Biden*. As if he hasn't had enough fails in the last few weeks.

[Gil Dobie]

This 99.8% survivability needs to stop. Something like 10% require hospitalization, 30%+ have long-term side-effects, and people are filling up hospitals and denying care to those who can think beyond themselves.

It's also incorrect because it gives a false sense of how statistics work. As a whole, it's that survivable (although probably less considering the excess deaths we see), but as an individual - depending on a bunch of factors - you need to accurately weigh your chance of dying, being hospitalized, etc. You can't take 99.8% as your risk factor. Math.

For example, I highly doubt 99.8% applies to most people on this site. But sure, it applies across all groups. However we aren't a nation of 330,000,000 replica individuals.

I will ignore the rest of your drivel.

WB isn't far off. Anyone that knows how to read a graph on the China Virus data that breakdowns the various demographics should be able to ascertain whether they need the vax or not. It's a personal choice.



Btw, great post WB. Spot on with ever single sentence.

Curious of what vaccines have shown side effects after the first 6 weeks? Not part of any side effects that were seen in the first 6 weeks.

[kalm]

This 99.8% survivability needs to stop. Something like 10% require hospitalization, 30%+ have long-term side-effects, and people are filling up hospitals and denying care to those who can think beyond themselves.

It's also incorrect because it gives a false sense of how statistics work. As a whole, it's that survivable (although probably less considering the excess deaths we see), but as an individual - depending on a bunch of factors - you need to accurately weigh your chance of dying, being hospitalized, etc. You can't take 99.8% as your risk factor. Math.

For example, I highly doubt 99.8% applies to most people on this site. But sure, it applies across all groups. However we aren't a nation of 330,000,000 replica individuals.

I will ignore the rest of your drivel.

WB isn't far off. Anyone that knows how to read a graph on the China Virus data that breakdowns the various demographics should be able to ascertain whether they need the vax or not. It's a personal choice.



Btw, great post WB. Spot on with ever single sentence.

Except for community spread, long term effects, and limiting variants.

Agree it’s a personal choice…to not get vaxxed and be socially distanced.

[kalm]

Going in for the Moderna microchip booster today. My chips were wearing out.

[∞∞∞]

Going in for the Moderna microchip booster today. My chips were wearing out.

Nice. I'm scheduled to get my upgraded tracking device on the 26th.

[SDHornet]

WB isn't far off. Anyone that knows how to read a graph on the China Virus data that breakdowns the various demographics should be able to ascertain whether they need the vax or not. It's a personal choice.



Btw, great post WB. Spot on with ever single sentence.

Except for community spread, long term effects, and limiting variants.

Agree it’s a personal choice…to not get vaxxed and be socially distanced.

If you are vaxxed, what is there to worry about?

[SDHornet]

WB isn't far off. Anyone that knows how to read a graph on the China Virus data that breakdowns the various demographics should be able to ascertain whether they need the vax or not. It's a personal choice.



Btw, great post WB. Spot on with ever single sentence.

Curious of what vaccines have shown side effects after the first 6 weeks? Not part of any side effects that were seen in the first 6 weeks.

Why would 6 weeks be enough time to determine long term effects?