Debt Limit

[Ibanez]

And I bet Fox is butthurt over that...

Seriously - the Golden Rule would solve/prevent so many problems in our world but I realize that isn't realistic.

Are you kidding? Setting her up is like shooting fish in a barrel for Doocy. It’s hilarious to watch.

You missed the point.

[AZGrizFan]

Are you kidding? Setting her up is like shooting fish in a barrel for Doocy. It’s hilarious to watch.

You missed the point.

Too nuanced,then.

[Ibanez]

You missed the point.

Too nuanced,then.

Not at all. Republican like to call out that Jen is lying..as if integrity matters anymore. They didn't mind it for the last 4 years b/c their chosen political party controlled the WH. It'll change again when a Republican is in the WH and they can " pwn the libs".

Partisan politics isn't that difficult or nuanced of a topic.

[Ivytalk]

And I bet Fox is butthurt over that...

Seriously - the Golden Rule would solve/prevent so many problems in our world but I realize that isn't realistic.

Are you kidding? Setting her up is like shooting fish in a barrel for Doocy. It’s hilarious to watch.

Doocy is an FCS guy (‘Nova ‘09).

[BDKJMU]

Funny how the Dems were bipartisan and raised the Debt Ceiling for Trump several times, but the GOP does everything they can to hurt Biden, even if the country suffers. But that is the typical GOP action.

True

The only person in Congress who seems to truly care about deficits is Joe Manchin.

The Trump wing of the GOP sure as hell doesnt

Zero Democrats care (except Manchin)

He’s like a one man Tea Party


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But even Manchin voted for all 3 rounds of the 5.7 trillion of so called Covid Relief bills. Could make an arguement that the 1st and 2nd rounds, while imperfect and loaded with pork and waste, were somewhat necessary. I don‘t belief that the case with the 3rd bill. Don‘t believe anyone who care about the deficit would have voted for that.

With the 1.2 trillion infrastructure, despite it apparently being loaded with a lot of pork, it also apparently has some badly needed real infrastructure.

As far as the 3.5 trillion, its almost all ‘human infrastructure‘ big government welfare state leftist wish list. Manchin said he‘s willing to go 1.5 trillion. If he truly cared about the deficit though, shouldn’t his limit be $0, as in we can‘t afford it on top of the 6 trillion already spent (5.7 Covid and 1.2 infrastructure)?

[UNI88]

True

The only person in Congress who seems to truly care about deficits is Joe Manchin.

The Trump wing of the GOP sure as hell doesnt

Zero Democrats care (except Manchin)

He’s like a one man Tea Party

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But even Manchin voted for all 3 rounds of the 5.7 trillion of so called Covid Relief bills. Could make an arguement that the 1st and 2nd rounds, while imperfect and loaded with pork and waste, were somewhat necessary. I don‘t belief that the case with the 3rd bill. Don‘t believe anyone who care about the deficit would have voted for that.

With the 1.2 trillion infrastructure, despite it apparently being loaded with a lot of pork, it also apparently has some badly needed real infrastructure.

As far as the 3.5 trillion, its almost all ‘human infrastructure‘ big government welfare state leftist wish list. Manchin said he‘s willing to go 1.5 trillion. If he truly cared about the deficit though, shouldn’t his limit be $0, as in we can‘t afford it on top of the 6 trillion already spent (5.7 Covid and 1.2 infrastructure)?

He did vote against Trump's tax cuts so that's a positive in the "cares about the deficit" column.

[Ivytalk]

Manchin really only cares about Manchin, trying to keep his seat in a Deep Red state. He spouted some soak-the-rich BS on his redneck yacht yesterday. Manchin is almost as big an attention whore as Schumer. My BIL, who is a Donk from eastern WV, can’t stand him.

[GannonFan]

Manchin really only cares about Manchin, trying to keep his seat in a Deep Red state. He spouted some soak-the-rich BS on his redneck yacht yesterday. Manchin is almost as big an attention whore as Schumer. My BIL, who is a Donk from eastern WV, can’t stand him.

Making a list of the really good Senators would be a very small list, and neither Manchin nor Schumer would be anywhere near that list.

[Ibanez]

Manchin really only cares about Manchin, trying to keep his seat in a Deep Red state. He spouted some soak-the-rich BS on his redneck yacht yesterday. Manchin is almost as big an attention whore as Schumer. My BIL, who is a Donk from eastern WV, can’t stand him.

He must share the same motto and Lindsey Graham, " I'll do whatever necessary to remain politically relevant."

[GannonFan]

Manchin really only cares about Manchin, trying to keep his seat in a Deep Red state. He spouted some soak-the-rich BS on his redneck yacht yesterday. Manchin is almost as big an attention whore as Schumer. My BIL, who is a Donk from eastern WV, can’t stand him.

He must share the same motto and Lindsey Graham, " I'll do whatever necessary to remain politically relevant."

He's not on that list either.

[Ibanez]

He must share the same motto and Lindsey Graham, " I'll do whatever necessary to remain politically relevant."

He's not on that list either.

No kidding. Lady G needs to retire to Seneca...enough already.

[kalm]

Manchin really only cares about Manchin, trying to keep his seat in a Deep Red state. He spouted some soak-the-rich BS on his redneck yacht yesterday. Manchin is almost as big an attention whore as Schumer. My BIL, who is a Donk from eastern WV, can’t stand him.

He also has done quite well in the coal industry.

[CID1990]

True

The only person in Congress who seems to truly care about deficits is Joe Manchin.

The Trump wing of the GOP sure as hell doesnt

Zero Democrats care (except Manchin)

He’s like a one man Tea Party


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But even Manchin voted for all 3 rounds of the 5.7 trillion of so called Covid Relief bills. Could make an arguement that the 1st and 2nd rounds, while imperfect and loaded with pork and waste, were somewhat necessary. I don‘t belief that the case with the 3rd bill. Don‘t believe anyone who care about the deficit would have voted for that.

With the 1.2 trillion infrastructure, despite it apparently being loaded with a lot of pork, it also apparently has some badly needed real infrastructure.

As far as the 3.5 trillion, its almost all ‘human infrastructure‘ big government welfare state leftist wish list. Manchin said he‘s willing to go 1.5 trillion. If he truly cared about the deficit though, shouldn’t his limit be $0, as in we can‘t afford it on top of the 6 trillion already spent (5.7 Covid and 1.2 infrastructure)?

He gets a pass from me on that because it was emergency spending and, well, King Joe is still a Democrat. They never met some helicopter money they didn’t like.

But when it comes to routine spending bills, he has been more fiscally sane than some Republicans I know

At the end of the day, the formula for Congressional longevity is pointing to all the money you spent on this or that. Republicans do it too.

Outside of legislative gridlock, I think the only solution to the runaway deficit issue (and the only way to guarantee we dont eventually tank the dollar) is to be innovative about encouraging economic growth. That is going to be painful for either Dems or Repubs to do because it will involve a combination of deregulation, antitrust, immigration reform, and restructuring some entitlements.


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[kalm]

But even Manchin voted for all 3 rounds of the 5.7 trillion of so called Covid Relief bills. Could make an arguement that the 1st and 2nd rounds, while imperfect and loaded with pork and waste, were somewhat necessary. I don‘t belief that the case with the 3rd bill. Don‘t believe anyone who care about the deficit would have voted for that.

With the 1.2 trillion infrastructure, despite it apparently being loaded with a lot of pork, it also apparently has some badly needed real infrastructure.

As far as the 3.5 trillion, its almost all ‘human infrastructure‘ big government welfare state leftist wish list. Manchin said he‘s willing to go 1.5 trillion. If he truly cared about the deficit though, shouldn’t his limit be $0, as in we can‘t afford it on top of the 6 trillion already spent (5.7 Covid and 1.2 infrastructure)?

He gets a pass from me on that because it was emergency spending and, well, King Joe is still a Democrat. They never met some helicopter money they didn’t like.

But when it comes to routine spending bills, he has been more fiscally sane than some Republicans I know

At the end of the day, the formula for Congressional longevity is pointing to all the money you spent on this or that. Republicans do it too.

Outside of legislative gridlock, I think the only solution to the runaway deficit issue (and the only way to guarantee we dont eventually tank the dollar) is to be innovative about encouraging economic growth. That is going to be painful for either Dems or Repubs to do because it will involve a combination of deregulation, antitrust, immigration reform, and restructuring some entitlements.


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Good post. I will add tax increases and defense spending to the combination.

[CID1990]

Sneaky sneaky!

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/10/04 ... ns-n420131

The devil is always in the deets


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[CID1990]

He gets a pass from me on that because it was emergency spending and, well, King Joe is still a Democrat. They never met some helicopter money they didn’t like.

But when it comes to routine spending bills, he has been more fiscally sane than some Republicans I know

At the end of the day, the formula for Congressional longevity is pointing to all the money you spent on this or that. Republicans do it too.

Outside of legislative gridlock, I think the only solution to the runaway deficit issue (and the only way to guarantee we dont eventually tank the dollar) is to be innovative about encouraging economic growth. That is going to be painful for either Dems or Repubs to do because it will involve a combination of deregulation, antitrust, immigration reform, and restructuring some entitlements.


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Good post. I will add tax increases and defense spending to the combination.

ORLY?

So you don’t see deterring China as a thing?

I’d be fine with going back to 1910 in terms of our military strength if you proggies could guarantee that China and Russia are planning on standing down once they take Taiwan (tank the dollar) and overrun Ukraine (dry up hookers in Prague)

Im pretty sure you don’t know what you are doing


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[AZGrizFan]

But even Manchin voted for all 3 rounds of the 5.7 trillion of so called Covid Relief bills. Could make an arguement that the 1st and 2nd rounds, while imperfect and loaded with pork and waste, were somewhat necessary. I don‘t belief that the case with the 3rd bill. Don‘t believe anyone who care about the deficit would have voted for that.

With the 1.2 trillion infrastructure, despite it apparently being loaded with a lot of pork, it also apparently has some badly needed real infrastructure.

As far as the 3.5 trillion, its almost all ‘human infrastructure‘ big government welfare state leftist wish list. Manchin said he‘s willing to go 1.5 trillion. If he truly cared about the deficit though, shouldn’t his limit be $0, as in we can‘t afford it on top of the 6 trillion already spent (5.7 Covid and 1.2 infrastructure)?

He gets a pass from me on that because it was emergency spending and, well, King Joe is still a Democrat. They never met some helicopter money they didn’t like.

But when it comes to routine spending bills, he has been more fiscally sane than some Republicans I know

At the end of the day, the formula for Congressional longevity is pointing to all the money you spent on this or that. Republicans do it too.

Outside of legislative gridlock, I think the only solution to the runaway deficit issue (and the only way to guarantee we dont eventually tank the dollar) is to be innovative about encouraging economic growth. That is going to be painful for either Dems or Repubs to do because it will involve a combination of deregulation, antitrust, immigration reform, and restructuring some entitlements.


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Politicians spend like someone planning on filing bankruptcy soon.

[JohnStOnge]

Maybe Democrats should just shut up and #DoTheirJob



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Government shutdown and failing to raise the debt limit are two different things.

I think the Democrats will do what they need to do to prevent failing to pay our debts when it comes to it. But what Mitch McConnell is doing is totally irresponsible. It's a clear example of putting the interests of his political party ahead of the interests of his country.

At some point the people of this country need to stop with the "they're both bad" thing. In recent years it has become clear that the Republican Party is much worse. It needs to be dispatched as a significant factor in the functioning of this country. The country would clearly, at this point in history, be way better off if it could get rid of the Republican Party.

[Ivytalk]

StOoge’s OCD is kicking in again. Wake me up when he posts an original thought.

[kalm]

Good post. I will add tax increases and defense spending to the combination.

ORLY?

So you don’t see deterring China as a thing?

I’d be fine with going back to 1910 in terms of our military strength if you proggies could guarantee that China and Russia are planning on standing down once they take Taiwan (tank the dollar) and overrun Ukraine (dry up hookers in Prague)

Im pretty sure you don’t know what you are doing


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Can we spend $5 less and still deter China and Russia, Lindsey?

If we are in spending trouble, everything should at least be discussed…including your sacred cows.

[DSUrocks07]

ORLY?

So you don’t see deterring China as a thing?

I’d be fine with going back to 1910 in terms of our military strength if you proggies could guarantee that China and Russia are planning on standing down once they take Taiwan (tank the dollar) and overrun Ukraine (dry up hookers in Prague)

Im pretty sure you don’t know what you are doing


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Can we spend $5 less and still deter China and Russia, Lindsey?

If we are in spending trouble, everything should at least be discussed…including your sacred cows.

Can we include the sacred cows (sacred tofu?) on the Left as well?



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[kalm]

Can we spend $5 less and still deter China and Russia, Lindsey?

If we are in spending trouble, everything should at least be discussed…including your sacred cows.

Can we include the sacred cows (sacred tofu?) on the Left as well?



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Of course. That’s why I agreed with his original post.

[DSUrocks07]

Personally I think the EU should be responsible for their own regional defense, instead of continuing to suck on America's teat for the last 70 years.

Hopefully now that Trump isn't president anymore progressives will stop crying about how doing so would be "surrendering to Russia".

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[Ibanez]

Personally I think the EU should be responsible for their own regional defense, instead of continuing to suck on America's teat for the last 70 years.

Hopefully now that Trump isn't president anymore progressives will stop crying about how doing so would be "surrendering to Russia".

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i'm fine with the EU looking to us...but they've to pay and there's a hefty premium.

[AZGrizFan]

Too nuanced,then.

Not at all. Republican like to call out that Jen is lying..as if integrity matters anymore. They didn't mind it for the last 4 years b/c their chosen political party controlled the WH. It'll change again when a Republican is in the WH and they can " pwn the libs".

Partisan politics isn't that difficult or nuanced of a topic.

And you missed MY point. She looks like a complete retard up there, and only has ONE guy in the room to worry about. Yet, she takes the hook more than anyone in my recent memory. She's so far out of her league it's comical.