Virginia/New Jersey Elections

[JohnStOnge]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

[93henfan]

Remember when during 2020, and everyone declared that Republicans would never win any critical election ever again? (cough JSO).



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I did not declare that at all. What I said is that, over time, the demographic trend is in the Democrats' favor. And it is. You are going to have back and forths. You are going to have variations. But, inevitably, the Republican Party is doomed to obscurity unless is finds a way to actually win among non White groups. Nothing has changed in that regard. The country is going to become majority non White. Texas is already majority non White and Texas Republicans are already trying to address that through redistricting and voter suppression. But at some point it is going to be too much. The dam is going to break.

I have said before that it may not happen in my lifetime as I am pretty old right now. But the handwriting remains on the wall for Republicans.

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

[DSUrocks07]

Remember when during 2020, and everyone declared that Republicans would never win any critical election ever again? (cough JSO).



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I did not declare that at all. What I said is that, over time, the demographic trend is in the Democrats' favor. And it is. You are going to have back and forths. You are going to have variations. But, inevitably, the Republican Party is doomed to obscurity unless is finds a way to actually win among non White groups. Nothing has changed in that regard. The country is going to become majority non White. Texas is already majority non White and Texas Republicans are already trying to address that through redistricting and voter suppression. But at some point it is going to be too much. The dam is going to break.

I have said before that it may not happen in my lifetime as I am pretty old right now. But the handwriting remains on the wall for Republicans.

Youngkin won the Latino vote in Virginia by nearly 10 points.

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[DSUrocks07]

I did not declare that at all. What I said is that, over time, the demographic trend is in the Democrats' favor. And it is. You are going to have back and forths. You are going to have variations. But, inevitably, the Republican Party is doomed to obscurity unless is finds a way to actually win among non White groups. Nothing has changed in that regard. The country is going to become majority non White. Texas is already majority non White and Texas Republicans are already trying to address that through redistricting and voter suppression. But at some point it is going to be too much. The dam is going to break.

I have said before that it may not happen in my lifetime as I am pretty old right now. But the handwriting remains on the wall for Republicans.

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

Democrats won't have enough time to convince multiple generations of Latinos that they are worthless and incapable without their direct involvement in their personal lives like they have with the black vote since the 1800s.

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[93henfan]

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

Democrats won't have enough time to convince multiple generations of Latinos that they are worthless and incapable without their direct involvement in their personal lives like they have with the black vote since the 1800s.

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Sad, but true. It really accelerated with LBJ's Great Society and War on Poverty. Whenever Democrats name a program, they name it the exact opposite of its actual intent.

[BDKJMU]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

[Ivytalk]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

John, just stop. Professional care is available in your area.

And you’re fuller of shit than Joe Biden’s drawers.

[JohnStOnge]

I did not declare that at all. What I said is that, over time, the demographic trend is in the Democrats' favor. And it is. You are going to have back and forths. You are going to have variations. But, inevitably, the Republican Party is doomed to obscurity unless is finds a way to actually win among non White groups. Nothing has changed in that regard. The country is going to become majority non White. Texas is already majority non White and Texas Republicans are already trying to address that through redistricting and voter suppression. But at some point it is going to be too much. The dam is going to break.

I have said before that it may not happen in my lifetime as I am pretty old right now. But the handwriting remains on the wall for Republicans.

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

They also continue to vote for Democrats by overwhelming margins. Some exceptions in which they vote Democrat by modest margins instead of overwhelming margins such as by "only" 53% to 46% in 2020. But nationally they voted Democrat by 65% to 32%. I can't get to it through the paywall right now but I looked at that today and it was the same basic thing in that Virginia race.

Believe me, Democrats would be fine if only Latinos could vote. There wouldn't be any Republicans in office at all.

[JohnStOnge]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

Fine. You can find a picture of a token black person. But we all know what the situation would be if only Black people voted.

[JohnStOnge]

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

Democrats won't have enough time to convince multiple generations of Latinos that they are worthless and incapable without their direct involvement in their personal lives like they have with the black vote since the 1800s.

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I don't know exactly what you mean by that but the bottom line is that Latinos pretty consistently vote by about a 2:1 margin for Democrats and there is nothing about what's happened in recent elections to suggest that is changing. Democrats aren't the ones who need to convince Latinos of anything. You can say that maybe Latinos can be convinced to change their voting pattern. But the Democrats aren't the ones in the position of having to change their voting pattern.

[AZGrizFan]

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

They also continue to vote for Democrats by overwhelming margins. Some exceptions in which they vote Democrat by modest margins instead of overwhelming margins such as by "only" 53% to 46% in 2020. But nationally they voted Democrat by 65% to 32%. I can't get to it through the paywall right now but I looked at that today and it was the same basic thing in that Virginia race.

Believe me, Democrats would be fine if only Latinos could vote. There wouldn't be any Republicans in office at all.

Your entire premise banks on the fact that demographics will NEVER change the way they vote.

Newsflash, pal: It’s happening before your very eyes….just open them.

[93henfan]

They also continue to vote for Democrats by overwhelming margins. Some exceptions in which they vote Democrat by modest margins instead of overwhelming margins such as by "only" 53% to 46% in 2020. But nationally they voted Democrat by 65% to 32%. I can't get to it through the paywall right now but I looked at that today and it was the same basic thing in that Virginia race.

Believe me, Democrats would be fine if only Latinos could vote. There wouldn't be any Republicans in office at all.

Your entire premise banks on the fact that demographics will NEVER change the way they vote.

Newsflash, pal: It’s happening before your very eyes….just open them.

Yup. You can't influence TDS though. That's one of the major symptoms.

[Col Hogan]

Democrats won't have enough time to convince multiple generations of Latinos that they are worthless and incapable without their direct involvement in their personal lives like they have with the black vote since the 1800s.

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I don't know exactly what you mean by that but the bottom line is that Latinos pretty consistently vote by about a 2:1 margin for Democrats and there is nothing about what's happened in recent elections to suggest that is changing. Democrats aren't the ones who need to convince Latinos of anything. You can say that maybe Latinos can be convinced to change their voting pattern. But the Democrats aren't the ones in the position of having to change their voting pattern.

Latino trends keep changing in Texas…changing towards the GOP…

Zapata County is one example. There, the population is 95% Hispanic or Latino. Trump won 52 percent of the voters.
"Demographics do not vote. People either do vote or do not, and you have to look at who's voting and who they vote for and why," Greenberg said.

https://www.12newsnow.com/article/news/ ... 34a62d157c

More recently, in a special election in the 118th House District which is 75% Hispanic and which Brandon won by 14% a year ago, Republican John Lujan won…

[Ivytalk]

I don't know exactly what you mean by that but the bottom line is that Latinos pretty consistently vote by about a 2:1 margin for Democrats and there is nothing about what's happened in recent elections to suggest that is changing. Democrats aren't the ones who need to convince Latinos of anything. You can say that maybe Latinos can be convinced to change their voting pattern. But the Democrats aren't the ones in the position of having to change their voting pattern.

Latino trends keep changing in Texas…changing towards the GOP…

Zapata County is one example. There, the population is 95% Hispanic or Latino. Trump won 52 percent of the voters.
"Demographics do not vote. People either do vote or do not, and you have to look at who's voting and who they vote for and why," Greenberg said.

https://www.12newsnow.com/article/news/ ... 34a62d157c

More recently, in a special election in the 118th House District which is 75% Hispanic and which Brandon won by 14% a year ago, Republican John Lujan won…

Don’t confuse JSO with the facts, Hogie. You’ll throw him “off message.”

[UNI88]

Latino trends keep changing in Texas…changing towards the GOP…

https://www.12newsnow.com/article/news/ ... 34a62d157c

More recently, in a special election in the 118th House District which is 75% Hispanic and which Brandon won by 14% a year ago, Republican John Lujan won…

Don’t confuse JSO with the facts, Hogie. You’ll throw him “off message.”

Those are anecdotal stories. JSO is looking at the big picture and his data tells a different story.

[Baldy]

Don’t confuse JSO with the facts, Hogie. You’ll throw him “off message.”

Those are anecdotal stories. JSO is looking at the big picture and his data tells a different story.

JSO's anecdotal evidence is better than anyone's anecdotal evidence.

[Baldy]

SAVAGE!

[SDHornet]

I did not declare that at all. What I said is that, over time, the demographic trend is in the Democrats' favor. And it is. You are going to have back and forths. You are going to have variations. But, inevitably, the Republican Party is doomed to obscurity unless is finds a way to actually win among non White groups. Nothing has changed in that regard. The country is going to become majority non White. Texas is already majority non White and Texas Republicans are already trying to address that through redistricting and voter suppression. But at some point it is going to be too much. The dam is going to break.

I have said before that it may not happen in my lifetime as I am pretty old right now. But the handwriting remains on the wall for Republicans.

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

No self-respecting Latino/a uses "Latinx". Literally none.

And on JSO's demographics narrative. Just

[Ibanez]

Nothing good is caught back there.

Joe Biden caught a trouser trout there just yesterday.

Allegedly.

[93henfan]

You're completely overlooking Latinx. They are hard-working Christians who don't need handouts. They value the family and education. And as you rightly said, they're multiplying faster than any other group. They're Democrats' worst nightmare.

No self-respecting Latino/a uses "Latinx". Literally none.

And on JSO's demographics narrative. Just

If it pisses them off, I'm totally going with it. Keep me abreast of the situation. I'm only here to piss as many people off as I can.

A certain fellow poster and fedgub employee and I have recently debated which gender pronouns to use. I'm thinking the most provocative is to go with "questioning/questioning." I don't want anyone backing me into a corner.

[DSUrocks07]

No self-respecting Latino/a uses "Latinx". Literally none.

And on JSO's demographics narrative. Just

If it pisses them off, I'm totally going with it. Keep me abreast of the situation. I'm only here to piss as many people off as I can.

A certain fellow poster and fedgub employee and I have recently debated which gender pronouns to use. I'm thinking the most provocative is to go with "questioning/questioning." I don't want anyone backing me into a corner.

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[89Hen]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

We lost you along the way, so not all ignorant white people are GOP.

[CID1990]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

We lost you along the way, so not all ignorant white people are GOP.

JSO conveniently skips over the part where Youngkin also won a majority of college educated whites.


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[Ivytalk]

BTW, along the lines is what I posted in the 2021 elections thread: The Republican Party is basically the Party of ignorant White people. There are enough ignorant White people now to keep that going for a while. But the end is inevitable.

We lost you along the way, so not all ignorant white people are GOP.

Oh, snap!

[JohnStOnge]

They also continue to vote for Democrats by overwhelming margins. Some exceptions in which they vote Democrat by modest margins instead of overwhelming margins such as by "only" 53% to 46% in 2020. But nationally they voted Democrat by 65% to 32%. I can't get to it through the paywall right now but I looked at that today and it was the same basic thing in that Virginia race.

Believe me, Democrats would be fine if only Latinos could vote. There wouldn't be any Republicans in office at all.

Your entire premise banks on the fact that demographics will NEVER change the way they vote.

Newsflash, pal: It’s happening before your very eyes….just open them.

I've always said that the situation is premised upon whether demographic voting patterns change. it's not happening. I have been tracking the trends, at least in terms of Presidential races.

The average percentages of the Black and Hispanic vote Democrats got during 1976 through 2020 are 88% and 66%. They got 87% and 65% in 2020. I guess you could say that the Democrats doin 1 percentage point worse in the polling point estimate than average is REALLY showing progress for Republicans. But if you do you are kidding yourself.

They didn't start providing estimates for Asians until 1992. But the average Democrats got from Asians during 1992 through 2020 is 56% and they got 61% in 2020. So that doesn't show a lot of progress for Republicans either.

I know I have seen a lot of spin about how Republicans are REALLY doing better among non Whites. But it's just not there. There was a thing with Hispanics in Florida due to those of Cuban ancestry. OK. But overall there wasn't some big shift in the basic paradigm whereby non whites in general and/or hispanics in particular voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat.

I'm about to type something on the Virginia race about that too.