Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

[SeattleGriz]

Plus, I'm not seeing a weekly trashing of businesses, stoppage of traffic and lighting shit on fire from Patriot Front.

And I didn't see ANtifA storm the US Capitol, the seat of US government. Don't try and argue that the other extreme is worse when both extremes are absolute sh!t and should be stepped on like cockroaches. The fingerpointing and arguing that the other side is worse is a huge part of the problem. Let's shine the light on the cockroaches on both sides rather than deflecting the light from one side because their politics are more closely aligned with yours. Kalm tried that for months when posting about January 6.

You have no idea who did what at the Capitol. Nobody does, and that's a problem.

If you think I support any of that activity, you are mistaken. But when I see weekly issues from left of center groups, and then I see a bunch of guys marching in khakis with NO record of violence, I judge one as a little more problematic than the other. Both are problems, but right now only one side is taking action.

[kalm]

Plus, I'm not seeing a weekly trashing of businesses, stoppage of traffic and lighting shit on fire from Patriot Front.

And I didn't see ANtifA storm the US Capitol, the seat of US government. Don't try and argue that the other extreme is worse when both extremes are absolute sh!t and should be stepped on like cockroaches. The fingerpointing and arguing that the other side is worse is a huge part of the problem. Let's shine the light on the cockroaches on both sides rather than deflecting the light from one side because their politics are more closely aligned with yours. Kalm tried that for months when posting about January 6.

Both extremes are bad. That doesn’t mean one isn’t worse from a political standpoint. Centrism can be a religion too.

[SeattleGriz]

And I didn't see ANtifA storm the US Capitol, the seat of US government. Don't try and argue that the other extreme is worse when both extremes are absolute sh!t and should be stepped on like cockroaches. The fingerpointing and arguing that the other side is worse is a huge part of the problem. Let's shine the light on the cockroaches on both sides rather than deflecting the light from one side because their politics are more closely aligned with yours. Kalm tried that for months when posting about January 6.

Both extremes are bad. That doesn’t mean one isn’t worse from a political standpoint. Centrism can be a religion too.

I completely agree both extremes are bad. I simply see one side is much more willing to act on their extremism is all I'm saying.

I have seen actual right-wing nut jobs while growing up in Montana. I recognize them very easily.

[kalm]

Both extremes are bad. That doesn’t mean one isn’t worse from a political standpoint. Centrism can be a religion too.

I completely agree both extremes are bad. I simply see one side is much more willing to act on their extremism is all I'm saying.

I have seen actual right-wing nut jobs while growing up in Montana. I recognize them very easily.

Gellman suggests Jan 6th was a sort of practice run. Some of the current tactics are more of a soft coup (through election control) and I think if we get off the hook with some limited stochastic terrorism we’ll be lucky.

I live amongst ring-wing nut jobs just as you and ‘88 live amongst the Antifa types. I count a number of MAGAT’s as friends. This dude below isn’t alone. In fact, his type are numbered in the 10’s of millions and they are led by the guy who will be the Republican nominee.

“There were people there deliberately to make it look worse than what it was,” he explains. “A handful of ill-behaved, potentially, possibly agents provocateur.” He repeats the phrase: “Agents provocateur, I have on information, were in the crowd … They were there for nefarious means. Doing the bidding of whom? I have no idea.”

“‘On information’?” I ask. What information?

“You can look up this name,” he says. “Retired three-star Air Force General McInerney. You got to find him on Rumble. They took him off YouTube.”

Sure enough, there on Rumble (and still on YouTube) I find a video of Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, 84, three decades gone from the Air Force. His story takes a long time to tell, because the plot includes an Italian satellite and Pakistan’s intelligence service and former FBI Director James Comey selling secret U.S. cyberweapons to China. Eventually it emerges that “Special Forces mixed with antifa” combined to invade the seat of Congress on January 6 and then blame the invasion on Trump supporters, with the collusion of Senators Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell, along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

In a further wrinkle, Pelosi, by McInerney’s account, became “frantic” soon afterward when she discovered that her own false-flag operation had captured a laptop filled with evidence of her treason. McInerney had just come from the White House, he says in his monologue, recorded two days after the Capitol riot. Trump was about to release the Pelosi evidence. McInerney had seen the laptop with his own eyes.

It shook me that Patterson took this video for proof. If my house had caught fire 10 years before, my life might have depended on his discernment and clarity of thought. He was an Eagle Scout. He earned a college degree. He keeps current on the news. And yet he has wandered off from the empirical world, placing his faith in fantastic tales that lack any basis in fact or explicable logic.

McInerney’s tale had spread widely on Facebook, Twitter, Parler, and propaganda sites like We Love Trump and InfoWars. It joined the January 6 denialist canon and lodged firmly in Patterson’s head. I reached the general by phone and asked about evidence for his claims. He mentioned a source, whose name he couldn’t reveal, who had heard some people saying “We are playing antifa today.” McInerney believed they were special operators because “they looked like SOF people.” He believed that one of them had Pelosi’s laptop, because his source had seen something bulky and square under the suspect’s raincoat. He conceded that even if it was a laptop, he couldn’t know whose it was or what was on it. For most of his story, McInerney did not even claim to have proof. He was putting two and two together. It stood to reason. In truth, prosecutors had caught and charged a neo-Nazi sympathizer who had videotaped herself taking the laptop from Pelosi’s office and bragged about it on Discord. She was a home health aide, not a special operator. (As of this writing, she has not yet entered a plea.)“

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... on/620843/

[SeattleGriz]

I completely agree both extremes are bad. I simply see one side is much more willing to act on their extremism is all I'm saying.

I have seen actual right-wing nut jobs while growing up in Montana. I recognize them very easily.

Gellman suggests Jan 6th was a sort of practice run. Some of the current tactics are more of a soft coup (through election control) and I think if we get off the hook with some limited stochastic terrorism we’ll be lucky.

I live amongst ring-wing nut jobs just as you and ‘88 live amongst the Antifa types. I count a number of MAGAT’s as friends. This dude below isn’t alone. In fact, his type are numbered in the 10’s of millions and they are led by the guy who will be the Republican nominee.

“There were people there deliberately to make it look worse than what it was,” he explains. “A handful of ill-behaved, potentially, possibly agents provocateur.” He repeats the phrase: “Agents provocateur, I have on information, were in the crowd … They were there for nefarious means. Doing the bidding of whom? I have no idea.”

“‘On information’?” I ask. What information?

“You can look up this name,” he says. “Retired three-star Air Force General McInerney. You got to find him on Rumble. They took him off YouTube.”

Sure enough, there on Rumble (and still on YouTube) I find a video of Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, 84, three decades gone from the Air Force. His story takes a long time to tell, because the plot includes an Italian satellite and Pakistan’s intelligence service and former FBI Director James Comey selling secret U.S. cyberweapons to China. Eventually it emerges that “Special Forces mixed with antifa” combined to invade the seat of Congress on January 6 and then blame the invasion on Trump supporters, with the collusion of Senators Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell, along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

In a further wrinkle, Pelosi, by McInerney’s account, became “frantic” soon afterward when she discovered that her own false-flag operation had captured a laptop filled with evidence of her treason. McInerney had just come from the White House, he says in his monologue, recorded two days after the Capitol riot. Trump was about to release the Pelosi evidence. McInerney had seen the laptop with his own eyes.

It shook me that Patterson took this video for proof. If my house had caught fire 10 years before, my life might have depended on his discernment and clarity of thought. He was an Eagle Scout. He earned a college degree. He keeps current on the news. And yet he has wandered off from the empirical world, placing his faith in fantastic tales that lack any basis in fact or explicable logic.

McInerney’s tale had spread widely on Facebook, Twitter, Parler, and propaganda sites like We Love Trump and InfoWars. It joined the January 6 denialist canon and lodged firmly in Patterson’s head. I reached the general by phone and asked about evidence for his claims. He mentioned a source, whose name he couldn’t reveal, who had heard some people saying “We are playing antifa today.” McInerney believed they were special operators because “they looked like SOF people.” He believed that one of them had Pelosi’s laptop, because his source had seen something bulky and square under the suspect’s raincoat. He conceded that even if it was a laptop, he couldn’t know whose it was or what was on it. For most of his story, McInerney did not even claim to have proof. He was putting two and two together. It stood to reason. In truth, prosecutors had caught and charged a neo-Nazi sympathizer who had videotaped herself taking the laptop from Pelosi’s office and bragged about it on Discord. She was a home health aide, not a special operator. (As of this writing, she has not yet entered a plea.)“

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... on/620843/

Ha! I read the story on the Leonardo (Italian defense company) satellite right after the election. I rated it right up there with Trump having placed radioactive hidden watermarks on the ballots that would prove without a doubt, fake ballots were added.

Stupid work is getting in my way right now, so I'll read that Atlantic article at lunch.

[UNI88]

Gellman suggests Jan 6th was a sort of practice run. Some of the current tactics are more of a soft coup (through election control) and I think if we get off the hook with some limited stochastic terrorism we’ll be lucky.

I live amongst ring-wing nut jobs just as you and ‘88 live amongst the Antifa types. I count a number of MAGAT’s as friends. This dude below isn’t alone. In fact, his type are numbered in the 10’s of millions and they are led by the guy who will be the Republican nominee.

“There were people there deliberately to make it look worse than what it was,” he explains. “A handful of ill-behaved, potentially, possibly agents provocateur.” He repeats the phrase: “Agents provocateur, I have on information, were in the crowd … They were there for nefarious means. Doing the bidding of whom? I have no idea.”

“‘On information’?” I ask. What information?

“You can look up this name,” he says. “Retired three-star Air Force General McInerney. You got to find him on Rumble. They took him off YouTube.”

Sure enough, there on Rumble (and still on YouTube) I find a video of Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, 84, three decades gone from the Air Force. His story takes a long time to tell, because the plot includes an Italian satellite and Pakistan’s intelligence service and former FBI Director James Comey selling secret U.S. cyberweapons to China. Eventually it emerges that “Special Forces mixed with antifa” combined to invade the seat of Congress on January 6 and then blame the invasion on Trump supporters, with the collusion of Senators Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell, along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

In a further wrinkle, Pelosi, by McInerney’s account, became “frantic” soon afterward when she discovered that her own false-flag operation had captured a laptop filled with evidence of her treason. McInerney had just come from the White House, he says in his monologue, recorded two days after the Capitol riot. Trump was about to release the Pelosi evidence. McInerney had seen the laptop with his own eyes.

It shook me that Patterson took this video for proof. If my house had caught fire 10 years before, my life might have depended on his discernment and clarity of thought. He was an Eagle Scout. He earned a college degree. He keeps current on the news. And yet he has wandered off from the empirical world, placing his faith in fantastic tales that lack any basis in fact or explicable logic.

McInerney’s tale had spread widely on Facebook, Twitter, Parler, and propaganda sites like We Love Trump and InfoWars. It joined the January 6 denialist canon and lodged firmly in Patterson’s head. I reached the general by phone and asked about evidence for his claims. He mentioned a source, whose name he couldn’t reveal, who had heard some people saying “We are playing antifa today.” McInerney believed they were special operators because “they looked like SOF people.” He believed that one of them had Pelosi’s laptop, because his source had seen something bulky and square under the suspect’s raincoat. He conceded that even if it was a laptop, he couldn’t know whose it was or what was on it. For most of his story, McInerney did not even claim to have proof. He was putting two and two together. It stood to reason. In truth, prosecutors had caught and charged a neo-Nazi sympathizer who had videotaped herself taking the laptop from Pelosi’s office and bragged about it on Discord. She was a home health aide, not a special operator. (As of this writing, she has not yet entered a plea.)“

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... on/620843/

Ha! I read the story on the Leonardo (Italian defense company) satellite right after the election. I rated it right up there with Trump having placed radioactive hidden watermarks on the ballots that would prove without a doubt, fake ballots were added.

Stupid work is getting in my way right now, so I'll read that Atlantic article at lunch.

Are you two about to go down the rabbit hole of debating with each other that the other extreme is worse?

[Ibanez]

And I didn't see ANtifA storm the US Capitol, the seat of US government. Don't try and argue that the other extreme is worse when both extremes are absolute sh!t and should be stepped on like cockroaches. The fingerpointing and arguing that the other side is worse is a huge part of the problem. Let's shine the light on the cockroaches on both sides rather than deflecting the light from one side because their politics are more closely aligned with yours. Kalm tried that for months when posting about January 6.

You have no idea who did what at the Capitol. Nobody does, and that's a problem.

If you think I support any of that activity, you are mistaken. But when I see weekly issues from left of center groups, and then I see a bunch of guys marching in khakis with NO record of violence, I judge one as a little more problematic than the other. Both are problems, but right now only one side is taking action.

With the logic - the people instigating riots could easily be Republicans trying to create a bad name for "progressives."

[SeattleGriz]

Ha! I read the story on the Leonardo (Italian defense company) satellite right after the election. I rated it right up there with Trump having placed radioactive hidden watermarks on the ballots that would prove without a doubt, fake ballots were added.

Stupid work is getting in my way right now, so I'll read that Atlantic article at lunch.

Are you two about to go down the rabbit hole of debating with each other that the other extreme is worse?

No. I was agreeing with the article that the justification of extremists on the right is so outlandish, it can only be laughed at.

[SeattleGriz]

You have no idea who did what at the Capitol. Nobody does, and that's a problem.

If you think I support any of that activity, you are mistaken. But when I see weekly issues from left of center groups, and then I see a bunch of guys marching in khakis with NO record of violence, I judge one as a little more problematic than the other. Both are problems, but right now only one side is taking action.

With the logic - the people instigating riots could easily be Republicans trying to create a bad name for "progressives."

Agreed. I don't doubt there are right wingers dressed up as Antifa smashing the shit out of everything in sight trying to foment bigger issues.

[UNI88]

You have no idea who did what at the Capitol. Nobody does, and that's a problem.

If you think I support any of that activity, you are mistaken. But when I see weekly issues from left of center groups, and then I see a bunch of guys marching in khakis with NO record of violence, I judge one as a little more problematic than the other. Both are problems, but right now only one side is taking action.

With the logic - the people instigating riots could easily be Republicans trying to create a bad name for "progressives."

January 6 happened. Attempts to prove it was a false flag operation have so far proven about as reliable as proof of most Qanon conspiracies. Are the right-wing faux-patriots that are being arrested and charged being framed? No. They were there and they participated in an attack on the pinnacle of the American Republic. They were and are just as traitorous as members of AnTiFa.

[Pwns]

Take a look at this poll results and ask yourself who is worse about thinking the other side is evil.

[kalm]

Next you’re going to tell me people have donation jars at gas stations to pay for cancer treatments. Why won’t these lazy teachers learn to do more with less?

[Baldy]

Next you’re going to tell me people have donation jars at gas stations to pay for cancer treatments. Why won’t these lazy teachers learn to do more with less?

The US spends over $300,000 per classroom per year. That's obscene.

If teachers do not have enough school supplies and are having to spend money out of their own pockets, there is a serious misallocation of funds happening somewhere.

[kalm]

Next you’re going to tell me people have donation jars at gas stations to pay for cancer treatments. Why won’t these lazy teachers learn to do more with less?

The US spends over $300,000 per classroom per year. That's obscene.

If teachers do not have enough school supplies and are having to spend money out of their own pockets, there is a serious misallocation of funds happening somewhere.

[SeattleGriz]

When Otters Attack!

https://nypost.com/2021/12/10/man-attac ... ng-to-die/

Man attacked by 20 otters, bitten 26 times: ‘I thought I was going to die’

The ornery otters reportedly hit him in the ankles, pushed him down and leaped on top of Spencer, then proceeded to bite the prone man around his legs, shoes and buttocks, with one nipping his finger, according to the media reports.

[kalm]

When Otters Attack!

https://nypost.com/2021/12/10/man-attac ... ng-to-die/

Man attacked by 20 otters, bitten 26 times: ‘I thought I was going to die’

The ornery otters reportedly hit him in the ankles, pushed him down and leaped on top of Spencer, then proceeded to bite the prone man around his legs, shoes and buttocks, with one nipping his finger, according to the media reports.

Otters don’t give a shit!

[Ibanez]

Take a look at this poll results and ask yourself who is worse about thinking the other side is evil.

Now ask yourself WHY Democrats don't want anything to do with Republicans.

[kalm]

Take a look at this poll results and ask yourself who is worse about thinking the other side is evil.

College students think Republicans are evil?

But why?

[SeattleGriz]

When Otters Attack!

https://nypost.com/2021/12/10/man-attac ... ng-to-die/

Otters don’t give a shit!

The Honey Badger of the water.

[Winterborn]

Take a look at this poll results and ask yourself who is worse about thinking the other side is evil.

Now ask yourself WHY Democrats don't want anything to do with Republicans.

They do not put their personal pronouns on their dating profile?

[Ibanez]

Take a look at this poll results and ask yourself who is worse about thinking the other side is evil.

College students think Republicans are evil?

But why?

TONIGHT AT THE PIT! EVERYONE. GETS. LAID!



Is anyone really shocked that college students are liberal and won't associate with someone that doesn't think like themselves?

[Winterborn]

TONIGHT AT THE PIT! EVERYONE. GETS. LAID!



Is anyone really shocked that college students are liberal and won't associate with someone that doesn't think like themselves?

Nope. They are just good little sponges. Soaking up all that learning their professors are feeding them.

[Pwns]

Take a look at this poll results and ask yourself who is worse about thinking the other side is evil.

Now ask yourself WHY Democrats don't want anything to do with Republicans.

I've lived in and visited enough places to know I prefer people in Trump country to the blue cities, and that I'd rather break down on the side of the road or have a medical emergency in public in a red area than a blue one. That doesn't make their politics correct, but In my experience, people convinced of their moral superiority over some other group of people usually don't have that superiority...whether your talking about holier-than-thou Christians, militant vegans, or white progressives.

[89Hen]

Now ask yourself WHY Democrats don't want anything to do with Republicans.

They do not put their personal pronouns on their dating profile?

C'mon Sticky, don't make excuses for them.

[89Hen]

I've lived in and visited enough places to know I prefer people in Trump country to the blue cities, and that I'd rather break down on the side of the road or have a medical emergency in public in a red area than a blue one. That doesn't make their politics correct, but In my experience, people convinced of their moral superiority over some other group of people usually don't have that superiority...whether your talking about holier-than-thou Christians, militant vegans, or white progressives.

Folks in my area are the biggest assholes anywhere... 70% libs. I can't tell you how many times I've waived to people, said hello, etc... and get absolutely NOTHING back. And this is even when I'm not wearing my MAGA cap.