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We are discussing Trump. We are lucky if both brain cells are firing at once.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:56 amIslam is a race?Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:29 am
More evidence that he is a amoral opportunist then. I feel dirty even arguing this for Trump but if the news article I read was right, he was talking in conjunction with ISIS and said it is on the table. Did he convey that, no, and came across as an idiot in a very Trumpian way.
Personally I think it would be wrong, there are other ways of going about de-funding ISIS, and against the first amendment. Politicians making stupid statements (basically anything out of Trumps mouth and fingers) is nothing new. We have had more than a few past Presidents (or candidates) make similar statements that both violate the constitution or other rights.
Hell look at some of Biden's statements from when he was in Congress. He said some eye opening stuff.
Neither is right but I guess I use the term "racist" in a bit more Webster's Dictionary fashion than the media.
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Yes, Joos too.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:56 amIslam is a race?Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:29 am
More evidence that he is a amoral opportunist then. I feel dirty even arguing this for Trump but if the news article I read was right, he was talking in conjunction with ISIS and said it is on the table. Did he convey that, no, and came across as an idiot in a very Trumpian way.
Personally I think it would be wrong, there are other ways of going about de-funding ISIS, and against the first amendment. Politicians making stupid statements (basically anything out of Trumps mouth and fingers) is nothing new. We have had more than a few past Presidents (or candidates) make similar statements that both violate the constitution or other rights.
Hell look at some of Biden's statements from when he was in Congress. He said some eye opening stuff.
Neither is right but I guess I use the term "racist" in a bit more Webster's Dictionary fashion than the media.
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One could be forgiven for thinking so - since criticisms of Islam are reliably and immediately met with accusations from the left of “racism”.kalm wrote:Islam is a race?Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:29 am More evidence that he is a amoral opportunist then. I feel dirty even arguing this for Trump but if the news article I read was right, he was talking in conjunction with ISIS and said it is on the table. Did he convey that, no, and came across as an idiot in a very Trumpian way.
Personally I think it would be wrong, there are other ways of going about de-funding ISIS, and against the first amendment. Politicians making stupid statements (basically anything out of Trumps mouth and fingers) is nothing new. We have had more than a few past Presidents (or candidates) make similar statements that both violate the constitution or other rights.
Hell look at some of Biden's statements from when he was in Congress. He said some eye opening stuff.
Neither is right but I guess I use the term "racist" in a bit more Webster's Dictionary fashion than the media.
But you already know this
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Forgiveness is virtuous. Even for those blaming the left for their own confusion.
But Islam is still not a race, correct?
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You tell me!kalm wrote:Forgiveness is virtuous. Even for those blaming the left for their own confusion.
But Islam is still not a race, correct?
It is your fellow travelers who conflate race and religion. I know the answer, I’m just not so sure about the leftists you defend so fervently.
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CID1990 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:16 amYou tell me!kalm wrote:
Forgiveness is virtuous. Even for those blaming the left for their own confusion.
But Islam is still not a race, correct?
It is your fellow travelers who conflate race and religion. I know the answer, I’m just not so sure about the leftists you defend so fervently.
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Like it or not…catching angry feels or not…they’re your fellow travelers too. That recognition has got to suck.
Shouldn’t we defend ideas rather than movements and ideologies? Perhaps own our mistakes and ignorance instead of blaming the “other side”?
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You’re just own-goaling yourself at this point.kalm wrote:
Like it or not…catching angry feels or not…they’re your fellow travelers too. That recognition has got to suck.![]()
Shouldn’t we defend ideas rather than movements and ideologies? Perhaps own our mistakes and ignorance instead of blaming the “other side”?
I have always pushed back against conflating race with religion - even right here on this here board… you can keyword “race” and “religion” and watch what happens.
And every single time it has been in response to dumb, woke leftist scolds. The people you reliably leap to defend.
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I didn’t reference your feelings on the issue. I was replying to WB.CID1990 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:20 amYou’re just own-goaling yourself at this point.kalm wrote:
Like it or not…catching angry feels or not…they’re your fellow travelers too. That recognition has got to suck.![]()
Shouldn’t we defend ideas rather than movements and ideologies? Perhaps own our mistakes and ignorance instead of blaming the “other side”?
I have always pushed back against conflating race with religion - even right here on this here board… you can keyword “race” and “religion” and watch what happens.
And every single time it has been in response to dumb, woke leftist scolds. The people you reliably leap to defend.
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Yet here we are with you defending yourself.
Be comforted in knowing I appreciate and mostly agree with your thoughts on the issue and this is not a part of the left I feel like defending.
Sorry my lefty take on certain issues triggers you regarding ALL issues.
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