Coronavirus COVID-19

[CID1990]

Prominent Dems are starting to push back against many of the more questionable COVID mitigation strategies - most notably mask mandates. Colorado’s governor has even said that although COVID is a pandemic, it is no longer an emergency, and he does not plan on mandate strategies that have been proven not to work in neighboring states (like NM).

The worm is turning and I expect in the next several months we are going to see some entertaining social media contradictions/deletions on the part of the punditry


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[GannonFan]

Begs the question then why we aren't advising people to get boosters every month now. If more is better how come we took almost a year to advise people get an additional booster shot? Why aren't we advising people to get as many booster shots now as they can schedule?

We started the jabs almost exactly a year ago. Then there’s that whole thing about time and studying efficacy on a broader scale than trials, and how long the protection lasts. And why would you need multiple booster shots immediately if the protection lasts months?

Because we don't apparently have any idea how long the protection lasts (we're ballparking 6 months, but that's just because it's a round number or so, we definitely know that it's decreasing during those 6 months). The excerpt you posted said 2 is better than 1. And 3 is better than 2. From your exerpt ...

You get more of them, the concentration in the blood increases and we don't know how long this is going to last, but the more times you're vaccinated the longer-lasting the immune memory is

. So you want the protection to last longer? Just keep getting more vaccinations. Do you not agree with what you posted?

[GannonFan]

Prominent Dems are starting to push back against many of the more questionable COVID mitigation strategies - most notably mask mandates. Colorado’s governor has even said that although COVID is a pandemic, it is no longer an emergency, and he does not plan on mandate strategies that have been proven not to work in neighboring states (like NM).

The worm is turning and I expect in the next several months we are going to see some entertaining social media contradictions/deletions on the part of the punditry


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That's the thing, it's not an emergency any more. Vaccines have been out there for a year now, if you wanted them, from age 5 to age 999, you had time to get it. If you haven't, that's your call. if you're at risk, wear a mask, clean your hands frequently, socially distance, i.e. take care of yourself. For everyone else, carry on. If you've been vaccinated, you have a better chance of not getting it (a little), but even more you have a less chance of dying. For unvaccinated, you have a higher chance of getting it and a higher chance of a bad outcome (i.e. dying). People have made their choices, so carry on.

[89Hen]

My company just scheduled our annual meeting in Dallas for in-person in February. I'm somewhat surprised.

[Ivytalk]

My company just scheduled our annual meeting in Dallas for in-person in February. I'm somewhat surprised.

Maybe you can catch a Stars game while you’re there.

[UNI88]

My company just scheduled our annual meeting in Dallas for in-person in February. I'm somewhat surprised.

Maybe you can catch a Stars game while you’re there.

And buy a used car ...

[SeattleGriz]

Prominent Dems are starting to push back against many of the more questionable COVID mitigation strategies - most notably mask mandates. Colorado’s governor has even said that although COVID is a pandemic, it is no longer an emergency, and he does not plan on mandate strategies that have been proven not to work in neighboring states (like NM).

The worm is turning and I expect in the next several months we are going to see some entertaining social media contradictions/deletions on the part of the punditry


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They'll back away like the "defund the police" crowd.

[89Hen]

My company just scheduled our annual meeting in Dallas for in-person in February. I'm somewhat surprised.

Maybe you can catch a Stars game while you’re there.

They were actually in town when we went right before covid but I couldn't get anyone interested in going. We have very little free time and we were staying about 45 minutes from downtown. Would have been a very expensive uber.

[kalm]

We started the jabs almost exactly a year ago. Then there’s that whole thing about time and studying efficacy on a broader scale than trials, and how long the protection lasts. And why would you need multiple booster shots immediately if the protection lasts months?

Because we don't apparently have any idea how long the protection lasts (we're ballparking 6 months, but that's just because it's a round number or so, we definitely know that it's decreasing during those 6 months). The excerpt you posted said 2 is better than 1. And 3 is better than 2. From your exerpt ...

You get more of them, the concentration in the blood increases and we don't know how long this is going to last, but the more times you're vaccinated the longer-lasting the immune memory is

. So you want the protection to last longer? Just keep getting more vaccinations. Do you not agree with what you posted?

We know nothing for sure…but we can and do make educated guesses and update/change strategies as we go.

Right now the initial studies are showing 40% protection with two jabs and 80% with 3. I’m not sure what’s so problematic about that beyond emotional fatigue or tin foil hat vaccine co s piracy theories.

What I posted is recent information. It’s disappointing for some and not satisfying a back to normal soon enough desire for the inpatient. The universe and Covid don’t care.

I’ve listened to the medical and data analytics experts (always with a degree of skepticism) from the start. Why would that change?

[UNI88]

Because we don't apparently have any idea how long the protection lasts (we're ballparking 6 months, but that's just because it's a round number or so, we definitely know that it's decreasing during those 6 months). The excerpt you posted said 2 is better than 1. And 3 is better than 2. From your exerpt ... . So you want the protection to last longer? Just keep getting more vaccinations. Do you not agree with what you posted?

We know nothing for sure…but we can and do make educated guesses and update/change strategies as we go.

Right now the initial studies are showing 40% protection with two jabs and 80% with 3. I’m not sure what’s so problematic about that beyond emotional fatigue or tin foil hat vaccine co s piracy theories.

What I posted is recent information. It’s disappointing for some and not satisfying a back to normal soon enough desire for the inpatient. The universe and Covid don’t care.

I’ve listened to the medical and data analytics experts (always with a degree of skepticism) from the start. Why would that change?

* impatient

Otherwise, wouldn't you want to get out of the hospital and get back to normal if you were in the hospital?

[kalm]

We know nothing for sure…but we can and do make educated guesses and update/change strategies as we go.

Right now the initial studies are showing 40% protection with two jabs and 80% with 3. I’m not sure what’s so problematic about that beyond emotional fatigue or tin foil hat vaccine co s piracy theories.

What I posted is recent information. It’s disappointing for some and not satisfying a back to normal soon enough desire for the inpatient. The universe and Covid don’t care.

I’ve listened to the medical and data analytics experts (always with a degree of skepticism) from the start. Why would that change?

* impatient

Otherwise, wouldn't you want to get out of the hospital and get back to normal if you were in the hospital?

I’ve been through too much medicine the past year and a half. I deserve at least an honorary degree, gawdammit!

[Gil Dobie]

Maybe you can catch a Stars game while you’re there.

They were actually in town when we went right before covid but I couldn't get anyone interested in going. We have very little free time and we were staying about 45 minutes from downtown. Would have been a very expensive uber.

Let me know. I'm in the area, just depends on work and family stuff. If I'm free we could have a summit at American Airlines Arena. My cousin might even have season tickets. I'll know more when I get settled.

[GannonFan]

Because we don't apparently have any idea how long the protection lasts (we're ballparking 6 months, but that's just because it's a round number or so, we definitely know that it's decreasing during those 6 months). The excerpt you posted said 2 is better than 1. And 3 is better than 2. From your exerpt ... . So you want the protection to last longer? Just keep getting more vaccinations. Do you not agree with what you posted?

We know nothing for sure…but we can and do make educated guesses and update/change strategies as we go.

Right now the initial studies are showing 40% protection with two jabs and 80% with 3. I’m not sure what’s so problematic about that beyond emotional fatigue or tin foil hat vaccine co s piracy theories.

What I posted is recent information. It’s disappointing for some and not satisfying a back to normal soon enough desire for the inpatient. The universe and Covid don’t care.

I’ve listened to the medical and data analytics experts (always with a degree of skepticism) from the start. Why would that change?

I'm just saying, what you posted sounded like 4 shots will get you up past 90%. 5 shots probably better than that. Why are we limiting ourselves to just one booster?

[kalm]

We know nothing for sure…but we can and do make educated guesses and update/change strategies as we go.

Right now the initial studies are showing 40% protection with two jabs and 80% with 3. I’m not sure what’s so problematic about that beyond emotional fatigue or tin foil hat vaccine co s piracy theories.

What I posted is recent information. It’s disappointing for some and not satisfying a back to normal soon enough desire for the inpatient. The universe and Covid don’t care.

I’ve listened to the medical and data analytics experts (always with a degree of skepticism) from the start. Why would that change?

I'm just saying, what you posted sounded like 4 shots will get you up past 90%. 5 shots probably better than that. Why are we limiting ourselves to just one booster?

I don’t recall staying that. Sorry if I did.

I don’t think we are limiting to just one booster down the road. We’ll have to see if it becomes like a flu scenario or gets completely eradicated I guess. The therapeutic pills also might make additional shots unnecessary for the greater population.

[Winterborn]

We know nothing for sure…but we can and do make educated guesses and update/change strategies as we go.

Right now the initial studies are showing 40% protection with two jabs and 80% with 3. I’m not sure what’s so problematic about that beyond emotional fatigue or tin foil hat vaccine co s piracy theories.

What I posted is recent information. It’s disappointing for some and not satisfying a back to normal soon enough desire for the inpatient. The universe and Covid don’t care.

I’ve listened to the medical and data analytics experts (always with a degree of skepticism) from the start. Why would that change?

I'm just saying, what you posted sounded like 4 shots will get you up past 90%. 5 shots probably better than that. Why are we limiting ourselves to just one booster?

That guy who received 10 shots is just ahead of the curve!

[Winterborn]

I'm just saying, what you posted sounded like 4 shots will get you up past 90%. 5 shots probably better than that. Why are we limiting ourselves to just one booster?

I don’t recall staying that. Sorry if I did.

I don’t think we are limiting to just one booster down the road. We’ll have to see if it becomes like a flu scenario or gets completely eradicated I guess. The therapeutic pills also might make additional shots unnecessary for the greater population.

It will be.

But then again that was fairly obvious outside of the media from late 2020 on.

[kalm]

I don’t recall staying that. Sorry if I did.

I don’t think we are limiting to just one booster down the road. We’ll have to see if it becomes like a flu scenario or gets completely eradicated I guess. The therapeutic pills also might make additional shots unnecessary for the greater population.

It will be.

But then again that was fairly obvious outside of the media from late 2020 on.

It was an idea. Which experts were predicting it?

[SeattleGriz]

It will be.

But then again that was fairly obvious outside of the media from late 2020 on.

It was an idea. Which experts were predicting it?

Pretty much every Epidemiologist worth their salt. It's the way every respiratory pandemic has gone. Now could they predict when? No, but that's the way viruses work.

They want to infect more people without killing them. If you kill someone, it doesn't get passed on as easily. It's natural selection.

Shit, CID stated this virus would become endemic in the first week because he too knows how it works.

I'm revoking your online medical degree!

[Winterborn]

It will be.

But then again that was fairly obvious outside of the media from late 2020 on.

It was an idea. Which experts were predicting it?

The history of infectious diseases like this made it a very large possibility that this is what would happen. No "expert" was going to go on record stating it. It was either going to wipe us out or devolve to our current stage. Pretty sure I predicted it back in mid/late 2020 when it was shown to not be as lethal as initially thought and feared to be. That was my SWAG guess at that time.

I have zero claim to be an "expert" but I have talked to one (and it was not at a Holiday Inn) and read up on some for the history of diseases likes this. Just used a bit of common sense and I can get by with that as a VNIP (very non-important person).

Could of worded my above post better but it is what it is.

[SeattleGriz]

As he spreads covid due to his nose being outside of his mask...

Anything to take the spotlight off his mishandling of the economy and to also blunt its usage.



This is fine.

[SeattleGriz]

Hmm, but let's give them to 5 year olds.

https://www.reuters.com/world/refugees- ... 021-12-16/

BRUSSELS/BANGKOK, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Tens of millions of migrants may be denied COVID-19 vaccines from a global programme because some major manufacturers are worried about legal risks from harmful side effects, according to officials and internal documents from Gavi, the charity operating the programme, reviewed by Reuters.

[89Hen]

Got my booster yesterday afternoon and feel like absolute crap today. This will be the last one I get.

[SeattleGriz]

Got my booster yesterday afternoon and feel like absolute crap today. This will be the last one I get.

Out of curiosity, which one?

By the way, hope you feel better soon.

[SeattleGriz]

Noticed three articles now from The Atlantic downplaying the pandemic or studies. Seems someone was asked to reel in the nutjobs so they can finally end this and get back to improving Dems chances of winning something in 2022. Ties directly into Cid's statement above.

[CID1990]

Noticed three articles now from The Atlantic downplaying the pandemic or studies. Seems someone was asked to reel in the nutjobs so they can finally end this and get back to improving Dems chances of winning something in 2022. Ties directly into Cid's statement above.

Hang on to your ass because the pivot from FEARPANIC to “meh” is going to cause whiplash

The really good news is that the truly persnickety and easily panicked will take a couple years to venture back out … so go enjoy Karen-less parks, concerts, pubs, athletic events, etc


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