Coronavirus COVID-19

[SDHornet]

[Gil Dobie]

There are quite a few out there that don't know they have a health issue that Covid could compromise. Long term drinkers, smokers, drug users, etc. Drinkers are the one's that mostly don't know. My Nephews girlfriend was like a rescue pet. Came off the street, after years of drinking. Died at age 30 from liver failure, only a couple years after getting straight.

This is where those who want to cut access to healthcare for "anti-vaxers" chime in and say your nephews gf got what she deserved and shouldnt have been allowed access to treatment of her ailments.

Well, she was treated in a room at Mayo for a month. There are a lot of this active drinkers may already lose rights for, like organ transplants.

[Gil Dobie]

849,000 Americans died with covid, during the same time.

[AZGrizFan]

This Omicron variant spreads like wildfire. I know more people personally in the past 3 weeks who’ve gotten it (all mild cases, as is per the norm with Omicron) than in the first 21 months combined.

[Col Hogan]

[BDKJMU]

Biden:
7/16:

"The only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated."

7/21:

You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

8/23:

the pandemic of the unvaccinated is a tragedy that is preventable."

10/7: (on vaxxed health care workers):

are protected from COVID and cannot spread it to you."

11/3: (on getting childrem vaxxed):

"stop the spread; help us beat this pandemic."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... alls-apart

[SDHornet]

PaNdEmIc Of ThE uNvAcCiNaTeD.

[Gil Dobie]

Have another friend in ICU with covid, no co-morbidities, not obese.

[SeattleGriz]

About damn time!

[Gil Dobie]

About damn time!

Finally hitting the alt-right media.

[kalm]

Have another friend in ICU with covid, no co-morbidities, not obese.

I have one in California 11 days in who thought he was getting better but his fever spiked again last night to 103. My age, in great shape, but no vaccine.

[AZGrizFan]

This Omicron variant spreads like wildfire. I know more people personally in the past 3 weeks who’ve gotten it (all mild cases, as is per the norm with Omicron) than in the first 21 months combined.

Oh. And every SINGLE person is fully vaccinated.

[SDHornet]

Oh now it matters...2 years in.

[SDHornet]

I wonder if the stickers are gold stars.

[CAA Flagship]

Fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose boosts antibodies five-fold in Israeli study, PM says



https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 022-01-04/

[Winterborn]

I wonder if the stickers are gold stars.

Ihre Papiere bitte.

[Winterborn]

Fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose boosts antibodies five-fold in Israeli study, PM says



https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 022-01-04/

I would hope so. We are not talking about twinkies here that last forever, but more like fresh bananas.

[SeattleGriz]

Since it's easy to do I copied and pasted some data tonight. What are your theories about why the associations exist?

First I just copied and pasted the State by State case and death rates (per million population) for the entire pandemic from Worldometers and compared mean rates for States that voted for Trump and States that voted for Biden. The States that voted for Trump are characterized by significantly higher case (p = 0.0001) and death (p = 0.03) rates.

Next I copied the the Worldometers State by State case and death rates along with the State by State fully vaccinated rates from the table at the bottom of the page at https://usafacts.org/visualizations/cov ... te/alabama and ran both Pearson and Spearman correlations for fully vaccinated rate vs. case rate as well as fully vaccinated rate vs. death rate. All four coefficients were negative and highly significant, indicating associations such that case and death rates tended to go down as fully vaccinated rates went up. Here are the p values:

Pearson case rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.0002
Pearson death rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.001
Spearman case rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.0006
Spearman death rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.001

As noted last time I did that, it's interesting. Vaccinations did not start until we were about halfway through (46% of the way in terms of days from the first US case until today) the pandemic period as it stands now. Then, of course, it took time to ramp up and administer a significant number of vaccinations. Yet there are those highly significant associations. Did another factor or set of factors cause the trends whereby states with higher case and death rates at this point also have lower vaccination rates?

The two theories I've been reading about would be Antibody Dependent Enhancement and Original Antigenic Sin. Both are real, it's just a matter of how much.

Very fortunately, however much, the body's immune system seems able to handle Omicron and we are not seeing people go to the hospital.

[Winterborn]

Since it's easy to do I copied and pasted some data tonight. What are your theories about why the associations exist?

First I just copied and pasted the State by State case and death rates (per million population) for the entire pandemic from Worldometers and compared mean rates for States that voted for Trump and States that voted for Biden. The States that voted for Trump are characterized by significantly higher case (p = 0.0001) and death (p = 0.03) rates.

Next I copied the the Worldometers State by State case and death rates along with the State by State fully vaccinated rates from the table at the bottom of the page at https://usafacts.org/visualizations/cov ... te/alabama and ran both Pearson and Spearman correlations for fully vaccinated rate vs. case rate as well as fully vaccinated rate vs. death rate. All four coefficients were negative and highly significant, indicating associations such that case and death rates tended to go down as fully vaccinated rates went up. Here are the p values:

Pearson case rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.0002
Pearson death rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.001
Spearman case rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.0006
Spearman death rate vs. fully vaccinated rate p = 0.001

As noted last time I did that, it's interesting. Vaccinations did not start until we were about halfway through (46% of the way in terms of days from the first US case until today) the pandemic period as it stands now. Then, of course, it took time to ramp up and administer a significant number of vaccinations. Yet there are those highly significant associations. Did another factor or set of factors cause the trends whereby states with higher case and death rates at this point also have lower vaccination rates?

The two theories I've been reading about would be Antibody Dependent Enhancement and Original Antigenic Sin. Both are real, it's just a matter of how much.

Very fortunately, however much, the body's immune system seems able to handle Omicron.

We can talk conspiracy about Omicron later!

Sounds kinky.

[GannonFan]

Fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose boosts antibodies five-fold in Israeli study, PM says



https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 022-01-04/

I would hope so. We are not talking about twinkies here that last forever, but more like fresh bananas.

Just start scheduling booster shots every 3 months and we'll be fine. I mean, the rest of the world is screwed because there's no way we could possibly vaccinate the entire world 4 times every year, but that's for them to worry about. Maybe we could just speed up the therapeutic pill that treats people with COVID rather than sitting on it like we did while we were busy pushing vaccine mandates. But like I said, in the meantime let's issue ration cards so everyone knows which month they are slated for their next booster and carry on. People will of course keep getting infected and keep getting sick (as we are now aware, the vaccines don't really do much to prevent that) but at least we won't have to go through the shaming ritual when someone ends up in the hospital.

[GannonFan]

Oh now it matters...2 years in.

Well, at the infection rate where it is, we're pretty soon going to have everyone get COVID, so technically, we'll be close to 100% of all deaths going forward will be with people who have COVID. Technically speaking. Could still be a car wreck or cancer or something else, but they'll be doing it WITH COVID.

[89Hen]

Have another friend in ICU with covid, no co-morbidities, not obese.

Not surprising. He knows you.

[Gil Dobie]

Have another friend in ICU with covid, no co-morbidities, not obese.

Not surprising. He knows you.

One of our Twin Cities Sports Collectors Club members.

[AZGrizFan]

The two theories I've been reading about would be Antibody Dependent Enhancement and Original Antigenic Sin. Both are real, it's just a matter of how much.

Very fortunately, however much, the body's immune system seems able to handle Omicron.

We can talk conspiracy about Omicron later!

Sounds kinky.

Isn’t that discussed in the first book of the Bible?

[AZGrizFan]

I would hope so. We are not talking about twinkies here that last forever, but more like fresh bananas.

Just start scheduling booster shots every 3 months and we'll be fine. I mean, the rest of the world is screwed because there's no way we could possibly vaccinate the entire world 4 times every year, but that's for them to worry about. Maybe we could just speed up the therapeutic pill that treats people with COVID rather than sitting on it like we did while we were busy pushing vaccine mandates. But like I said, in the meantime let's issue ration cards so everyone knows which month they are slated for their next booster and carry on. People will of course keep getting infected and keep getting sick (as we are now aware, the vaccines don't really do much to prevent that) but at least we won't have to go through the shaming ritual when someone ends up in the hospital.

And then in 10 years when we all start growing third arms out of our foreheads?