Happy January 6th Trumpers

[bobbythekidd]

Forty-six of forty-seven European Democracies require government issued picture ids to vote.

YEP

Canada and Mexico the same.

Not true for Canada

Georgia and Texas laws are less restrictive on absentee voting and have longer voting periods than New York and Delaware and most of European democracies.

What Earth so you live on because we don't share this one.

Just another strawman thrown up by the left to ensure outcomes favorable to them.

Obviously not.

Vote harvesting is open corruption because most are paid for votes.

Correct! Both sides are doing it without any accountability. It needs to be abolished.

My 95 yo aunt doesn’t drive, but has a valid id to vote.

My only objection to this is that an "ID only" should be free. Continue to charge for passports, drivers licenses and CDL's.

[UNI88]

Forty-six of forty-seven European Democracies require government issued picture ids to vote.

YEP

Canada and Mexico the same.

Not true for Canada

Georgia and Texas laws are less restrictive on absentee voting and have longer voting periods than New York and Delaware and most of European democracies.

What Earth so you live on because we don't share this one.

Just another strawman thrown up by the left to ensure outcomes favorable to them.

Obviously not.

Vote harvesting is open corruption because most are paid for votes.

Correct! Both sides are doing it without any accountability. It needs to be abolished.

My 95 yo aunt doesn’t drive, but has a valid id to vote.

My only objection to this is that an "ID only" should be free. Continue to charge for passports, drivers licenses and CDL's.

Basic ID should be free and should be tied to a national database so that a person can only have 1 ID. Get one in another state and the old state ID is canceled and can't be used to vote.

[BDKJMU]

Yes, that’s why it should be a National holiday.

States rights!

There are people working on a Plan B. This week, I half-jokingly asked Ben Wikler, the chairman of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, what it felt like to be on the front lines of protecting American democracy. He replied, dead serious, by telling me what it was like. He spends his days obsessing over mayoral races in 20,000-person towns, because those mayors appoint the city clerks who decide whether to pull the drop boxes for mail-in ballots and small changes to electoral administration could be the difference between winning Senator Ron Johnson’s seat in 2022 (and having a chance at democracy reform) and losing the race and the Senate. Wikler is organizing volunteers to staff phone banks to recruit people who believe in democracy to serve as municipal poll workers, because Steve Bannon has made it his mission to recruit people who don’t believe in democracy to serve as municipal poll workers.

I’ll say this for the right: They pay attention to where the power lies in the American system, in ways the left sometimes doesn’t. Bannon calls this “the precinct strategy,” and it’s working. “Suddenly, people who had never before showed interest in party politics started calling the local G.O.P. headquarters or crowding into county conventions, eager to enlist as precinct officers,” ProPublica reports. “They showed up in states Trump won and in states he lost, in deep-red rural areas, in swing-voting suburbs and in populous cities.”

The difference between those organizing at the local level to shape democracy and those raging ineffectually about democratic backsliding — myself included — reminds me of the old line about war: Amateurs talk strategy; professionals talk logistics. Right now, Trumpists are talking logistics.

“We do not have one federal election,” said Amanda Litman, a co-founder of Run for Something, which helps first-time candidates learn about the offices they can contest and helps them mount their campaigns. “We have 50 state elections and then thousands of county elections. And each of those ladder up to give us results. While Congress can write, in some ways, rules or boundaries for how elections are administered, state legislatures are making decisions about who can and can’t vote. Counties and towns are making decisions about how much money they’re spending, what technology they’re using, the rules around which candidates can participate.

An NPR analysis found 15 Republicans running for secretary of state in 2022 who doubt the legitimacy of Biden’s win. In Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, the incumbent Republican secretary of state who stood fast against Trump’s pressure, faces two primary challengers who hold that Trump was 2020’s rightful winner. Trump has endorsed one of them, Representative Jody Hice. He’s also endorsed candidates for secretary of state in Arizona and Michigan who backed him in 2020 and stand ready to do so in 2024. As NPR dryly noted, “The duties of a state secretary of state vary, but in most cases, they are the state’s top voting official and have a role in carrying out election laws.”
Nor is it just secretaries of state. “Voter suppression is happening at every level of government here in Georgia,” Representative Nikema Williams, who chairs the Georgia Democratic Party, told me. “We have 159 counties, and so 159 different ways boards of elections are elected and elections are carried out. So we have 159 different leaders who control election administration in the state. We’ve seen those boards restrict access by changing the number of ballot boxes. Often, our Black members on these boards are being pushed out.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/opin ... O_BuWJfVXY

Oh the horror they may then have to actually go to the polls to vote, or request an absentee ballot and then mail that in. You know, what we’ve been doing for for like forever before 2020..

[BDKJMU]

The horror. Lol.

Beat me too it.

[SDHornet]

Strict voter ID's?
Cuts to early voting? (Election day should be a national holiday where the ONLY thing done that day is voting)
Purge of Voter Rolls?

How do these disproportionately impact people of color? or students? Or elderly? Or do they just make a blanket statement that we're supposed to believe and take as gospel at face value?

You view election integrity as "voter suppression". You're worried about people who mythically can't vote (because the ability has been somehow taken away), meanwhile states like NY and CA are now allowing hundreds of thousands of undocumented illegal immigrants to vote. Yeah, nothing to see there, right?

I believe the argument is that voter ID disproportionately impacts people of color, students, the elderly, and people with disabilities because they're less likely to drive and don't need or have a driver's license as a result. They would need to take the time and small fee to apply for and get an ID. It might be an inconvenience but hardly suppression.

What about grocery stores, restaurants, etc. on Election Day? Are they forced to be closed?

Voter rolls should definitely be audited and purged occasionally. There have been several elections after I moved where I could have voted multiple times if I was dishonest. Voter ID would help to ensure that individuals were only registered to vote in one location.

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

[Ibanez]

I believe the argument is that voter ID disproportionately impacts people of color, students, the elderly, and people with disabilities because they're less likely to drive and don't need or have a driver's license as a result. They would need to take the time and small fee to apply for and get an ID. It might be an inconvenience but hardly suppression.

What about grocery stores, restaurants, etc. on Election Day? Are they forced to be closed?

Voter rolls should definitely be audited and purged occasionally. There have been several elections after I moved where I could have voted multiple times if I was dishonest. Voter ID would help to ensure that individuals were only registered to vote in one location.

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

Told my wife the other day that "latinx" was not liked by most Hispanics. She asked how I knew that....I replied my Mexican friend on CS said so.

[CID1990]

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

Told my wife the other day that "latinx" was not liked by most Hispanics. She asked how I knew that....I replied my Mexican friend on CS said so.

There’s polling to back it up. Uniformly unpopular.


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[AZGrizFan]

I believe the argument is that voter ID disproportionately impacts people of color, students, the elderly, and people with disabilities because they're less likely to drive and don't need or have a driver's license as a result. They would need to take the time and small fee to apply for and get an ID. It might be an inconvenience but hardly suppression.

What about grocery stores, restaurants, etc. on Election Day? Are they forced to be closed?

Voter rolls should definitely be audited and purged occasionally. There have been several elections after I moved where I could have voted multiple times if I was dishonest. Voter ID would help to ensure that individuals were only registered to vote in one location.

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

I don’t think there’s anything “soft” about it. Blatant fucking racism if you ask me.

[SDHornet]

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

Told my wife the other day that "latinx" was not liked by most Hispanics. She asked how I knew that....I replied my Mexican friend on CS said so.

Like how this is used by you to think of the millions of Brown folk here...

...kinda like the fake news spreading china virus/russia collusion/"insert fake narrative here" via "anonymous sources"

[SDHornet]

Told my wife the other day that "latinx" was not liked by most Hispanics. She asked how I knew that....I replied my Mexican friend on CS said so.

There’s polling to back it up. Uniformly unpopular.


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The only Brown folk I heard using it IRL are those in "academia".

[Ibanez]

Told my wife the other day that "latinx" was not liked by most Hispanics. She asked how I knew that....I replied my Mexican friend on CS said so.

Like how this is used by you to think of the millions of Brown folk here...

...kinda like the fake news spreading china virus/russia collusion/"insert fake narrative here" via "anonymous sources"

I would take your experience over anyone speaking on CNN or MSNBC about it.

I still don't understand how People of Color came about. I thought that was a no-no...like colored people.

[SDHornet]

Like how this is used by you to think of the millions of Brown folk here...

...kinda like the fake news spreading china virus/russia collusion/"insert fake narrative here" via "anonymous sources"

I would take your experience over anyone speaking on CNN or MSNBC about it.

I still don't understand how People of Color came about. I thought that was a no-no...like colored people.

I like how the elite liberals think there is no angst between Team Brown and blacks and the POC moniker somehow encapsulates all minority struggles into a common one and that there aren't competing agendas at all.

[houndawg]

I believe the argument is that voter ID disproportionately impacts people of color, students, the elderly, and people with disabilities because they're less likely to drive and don't need or have a driver's license as a result. They would need to take the time and small fee to apply for and get an ID. It might be an inconvenience but hardly suppression.

What about grocery stores, restaurants, etc. on Election Day? Are they forced to be closed?

Voter rolls should definitely be audited and purged occasionally. There have been several elections after I moved where I could have voted multiple times if I was dishonest. Voter ID would help to ensure that individuals were only registered to vote in one location.

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

You aren't helping to change the image at all.

You'd be dumb and incompetent in any color.

[houndawg]

I would take your experience over anyone speaking on CNN or MSNBC about it.

I still don't understand how People of Color came about. I thought that was a no-no...like colored people.

I like how the elite liberals think there is no angst between Team Brown and blacks and the POC moniker somehow encapsulates all minority struggles into a common one and that there aren't competing agendas at all.

...of course there is, thats why Team Brown refers to Blacks as "chongos" or "maiertes"(sic), no?

[Ibanez]

I would take your experience over anyone speaking on CNN or MSNBC about it.

I still don't understand how People of Color came about. I thought that was a no-no...like colored people.

I like how the elite liberals think there is no angst between Team Brown and blacks and the POC moniker somehow encapsulates all minority struggles into a common one and that there aren't competing agendas at all.

I reckon they think it's easier to think of and treat you all as one group when they're out speaking and drumming up images of the CSA to scare that group into submission...or something like that.

[SDHornet]

A yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Us Brown folk are too dumb and incompetent to get an ID. Keep thinking this way libtards...oh and keep calling us "latinx", that will get you our votes.

You aren't helping to change the image at all.

You'd be dumb and incompetent in any color.

I love how when us Brown folk go off the thought plantation you get really scarred and start lashing out. Your racist anger brings joy to my heart.

[houndawg]

You aren't helping to change the image at all.

You'd be dumb and incompetent in any color.

I love how when us Brown folk go off the thought plantation you get really scarred and start lashing out. Your racist anger brings joy to my heart.

Youse....will not replace us

[BDKJMU]

Bump..

[BDKJMU]

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[kalm]

Laughable denial. ^^^

Downplaying J6 is as un-American as you can get.

[BDKJMU]

Laughable denial. ^^^

Downplaying J6 is as un-American as you can get.

Go watch CNN for someone cares about J6 porn..

[kalm]

Laughable denial. ^^^

Downplaying J6 is as un-American as you can get.

Go watch CNN for someone cares about J6 porn..

I don’t watch CNN. It’s too centrist - both sides do it. In fact, since the election the only TV infotainment I’ve watched is BBC World.

Go read actual journalistic reporting and long form thorough articles. It will be a more productive use of your time vs. defending and attempt to rewrite what happened on J6.

[UNI88]

if it's not big deal than the perpetrators should be left to serve their sentences. No pardons necessary. Pardoning them will bring it back into the spotlight, nullifying this argument.

trump encouraged January 6. Is he an agitator, part of a fringe group or both?

[Caribbean Hen]

January 6th is Three Kings Day in Puerto Rico and it’s a big deal