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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:13 am
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:10 am Khrushchev backed off after the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. Maybe calling Putin’s bluff with a show of resolve helped in the Ukraine standoff as well. The Russian trolls can cackle all they want, but the tanks have not yet rolled.
Was thinking that this morning. If Biden was seen as so weak...Putin wouldn't waste any more time with "diplomacy."

According to our news, Russia is adding 7K more troops and was lobbing mortar rounds across the border. Not sure if any of that is accurate.
Probably waiting until after the Olympics. Just like China is with Hong Kong.
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CID1990 wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:04 am I’m sitting at the passenger terminal in Dulles and a Ukrainian AN-124 just landed and rolled by.

Might just be dropping off Hunter’s back pay


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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:33 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:13 am

Was thinking that this morning. If Biden was seen as so weak...Putin wouldn't waste any more time with "diplomacy."

According to our news, Russia is adding 7K more troops and was lobbing mortar rounds across the border. Not sure if any of that is accurate.
Probably waiting until after the Olympics. Just like China is with Hong Kong.
And after Russia speaks at the UN Security Council (supposedly) this week.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:14 am :roll: I see Harris is heading to Munich...i'm sure we'll have this all resolved by the weekend .
Her last trip to Europe showed she is really on top of things.


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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:34 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:14 am :roll: I see Harris is heading to Munich...i'm sure we'll have this all resolved by the weekend .
Her last trip to Europe showed she is really on top of things.


I’m sure she’ll be searching for root causes.
Her one saving grace is that she is obviously completely uncomfortable being a bullshitter. Biden and Trump are far more comfortable bullshitting. Her crumbling under pressure will (hopefully) save us from ever having her as POTUS.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:14 am :roll: I see Harris is heading to Munich...i'm sure we'll have this all resolved by the weekend .
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Apparently, the Soviet Army has marching orders....

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:34 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:14 am :roll: I see Harris is heading to Munich...i'm sure we'll have this all resolved by the weekend .
Her last trip to Europe showed she is really on top of things.


I’m sure she’ll be searching for root causes.
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Ivytalk wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:34 am
Her last trip to Europe showed she is really on top of things.


I’m sure she’ll be searching for root causes.
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The tailor should be commended though for doing their best. Not every day one gets to work with a blank canvas. ;)
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So where's the invasion? Intelligence said it was going to happen a week ago. Aren't we on the edge of thermonuclear war? I sure hope Biden will talk Putin off the ledge. Then we can nominate him for a Nobel Piece prize and see what a master tradesman he really is...just in time for the midterms!!
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SeattleGriz wrote:So where's the invasion? Intelligence said it was going to happen a week ago. Aren't we on the edge of thermonuclear war? I sure hope Biden will talk Putin off the ledge. Then we can nominate him for a Nobel Piece prize and see what a master tradesman he really is...just in time for the midterms!!
I don’t think the Russia s care about Western Intelligences theoretical timelines. Interesting article out there how Trumps Russia advisor thinks Biden is on the right page here.


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Ibanez wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:So where's the invasion? Intelligence said it was going to happen a week ago. Aren't we on the edge of thermonuclear war? I sure hope Biden will talk Putin off the ledge. Then we can nominate him for a Nobel Piece prize and see what a master tradesman he really is...just in time for the midterms!!
I don’t think the Russia s care about Western Intelligences theoretical timelines. Interesting article out there how Trumps Russia advisor thinks Biden is on the right page here.


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I think he is too.


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Maybe NATO countries will finally up their spending on defense. :coffee:
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A retired USMC colonel on GMA this morning flat out said that Putin is behaving like a Soviet general secretary, something I've maintained for quite some time....
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:08 am
SeattleGriz wrote:So where's the invasion? Intelligence said it was going to happen a week ago. Aren't we on the edge of thermonuclear war? I sure hope Biden will talk Putin off the ledge. Then we can nominate him for a Nobel Piece prize and see what a master tradesman he really is...just in time for the midterms!!
I don’t think the Russia s care about Western Intelligences theoretical timelines. Interesting article out there how Trumps Russia advisor thinks Biden is on the right page here.


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Oh I agree. Just pointing out again how the Biden admin keeps saying we are on the brink, but nobody wants to talk to Biden.

Big exercise in acting like he is integral to the outcome, when he's not even being considered.
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Putin recognizes Ukrainian separatist movement and breaks the Minsk agreement.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:37 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:08 am
I don’t think the Russia s care about Western Intelligences theoretical timelines. Interesting article out there how Trumps Russia advisor thinks Biden is on the right page here.


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Oh I agree. Just pointing out again how the Biden admin keeps saying we are on the brink, but nobody wants to talk to Biden.

Big exercise in acting like he is integral to the outcome, when he's not even being considered.
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Winterborn wrote:Putin recognizes Ukrainian separatist movement and breaks the Minsk agreement.
This may well be the end of the invasion for now. Russian separatists can now just “invite” the Russian military into the Donbas region.


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CID1990 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:58 pm
Winterborn wrote:Putin recognizes Ukrainian separatist movement and breaks the Minsk agreement.
This may well be the end of the invasion for now. Russian separatists can now just “invite” the Russian military into the Donbas region.


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I have an inclination to wish we would have said we are not going to send any ground forces but we are going to provide air support to the Ukraine. Basically tell Putin, "Ok, you can invade. But you are not going to control the air space if you do. And we are going to tear up your ground forces pretty bad after we establish air superiority." In my wish the US would have started moving aircraft and support infrastructure to Ukraine as well as positioning aircraft carriers quite some time ago. Or, if getting the infrastructure in Ukraine is not possible, I'd wish we'd operate out of other parts of Europe. I am inclined in that way because I think that this is one of those things that needs to be stopped early on if it's going to be stopped without things getting way worse.

But I understand that I don't know. I am inclined to think that we are way superior to Russia in terms of air power. I don't believe they would have any chance against us in air battle. I could be wrong about that.

Also, there is that nuclear weapons thing. Any time this sort of thing starts happening there is that "End of the World as We Know It" thing in the background.

Finally, I know very well that the majority of the US population would not support it.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:51 am Maybe NATO countries will finally up their spending on defense. :coffee:
Dont’ hold your breath. They don’t HAVE the money. They’ve committed it all to those social programs all the communists here rave about.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:14 pm
CID1990 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:58 pm
This may well be the end of the invasion for now. Russian separatists can now just “invite” the Russian military into the Donbas region.


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Legacy media is throwing everything and the kitchen sink to try and sell this Russia war. :lol:

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SDHornet wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:02 pm Legacy media is throwing everything and the kitchen sink to try and sell this Russia war. :lol:

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:43 pm
SDHornet wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:02 pm Legacy media is throwing everything and the kitchen sink to try and sell this Russia war. :lol:

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