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“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
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Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:53 amNah, just stare deeply into their eyes and lick your lips.![]()


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True. And I’m not losing sleep over it anymore. Both sides are cunty. I honestly care about ideas, freedom, and community. Rather than ideology.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:01 amWhat do you want me to say? That he is a hypocrite (he is)? He does not represent the majority of the party, just like AOCH does not represent the majority of the Democratic party. So congratulations on falling back on the JSO argument of using outliers/cherry picking to support a case.
I have meet about the same number of Republicans that are Pro-abortion as I have meet Democrats that are Pro-life. They are out there but they are in a minority. Hypocrites are everywhere and in every party/organization. I do not use them as a basis of judgment for their particular brand of beliefs but look at the general population as a whole. But then you knew that and were just drumming up business.
One of the best humans I’ve met in the last couple of years is a Louisiana preacher man/evangelical who’s anti mask mandate, anti vax, and a Trump supporter.
Go figure.
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I never lost sleep over it but the thing that bothers me is when people use an example that is clearly from a small minority (or dataset) to bolster their particular brand of beliefs. It makes my OCD addled brain just twitch.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:31 am
True. And I’m not losing sleep over it anymore. Both sides are cunty. I honestly care about ideas, freedom, and community. Rather than ideology.
One of the best humans I’ve met in the last couple of years is a Louisiana preacher man/evangelical who’s anti mask mandate, anti vax, and a Trump supporter.
Go figure.

For me it boils down to just freedom and the more freedom the better. If one has freedom, the ideas and rest will follow suit.
Community is overrated though.

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"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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This is why anarchism (the philosophical sort not the chaos type) is intriguing. It allows for and perhaps even encourages community but doesn’t force it.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:52 amI never lost sleep over it but the thing that bothers me is when people use an example that is clearly from a small minority (or dataset) to bolster their particular brand of beliefs. It makes my OCD addled brain just twitch.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:31 am
True. And I’m not losing sleep over it anymore. Both sides are cunty. I honestly care about ideas, freedom, and community. Rather than ideology.
One of the best humans I’ve met in the last couple of years is a Louisiana preacher man/evangelical who’s anti mask mandate, anti vax, and a Trump supporter.
Go figure.![]()
For me it boils down to just freedom and the more freedom the better. If one has freedom, the ideas and rest will follow suit.
Community is overrated though.![]()
It seems to be a less dickish form of libertarianism. At least that’s how I see

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It has a few interesting thoughts on the surface. But like all philosophies, it is when the rubber hits the road that separates the "intellectual" from the "practical/doable". Which is why there are campfires and libations in which one can wile away a few hours through debate.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:29 amThis is why anarchism (the philosophical sort not the chaos type) is intriguing. It allows for and perhaps even encourages community but doesn’t force it.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:52 am
I never lost sleep over it but the thing that bothers me is when people use an example that is clearly from a small minority (or dataset) to bolster their particular brand of beliefs. It makes my OCD addled brain just twitch.![]()
For me it boils down to just freedom and the more freedom the better. If one has freedom, the ideas and rest will follow suit.
Community is overrated though.![]()
It seems to be a less dickish form of libertarianism. At least that’s how I see![]()

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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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I think you may need to really think about whether he is one of the best humans you've met in the last couple of years. There is something seriously wrong with a person such as you describe. They've got issues with understanding and responding to reality.
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Man, that is fucking RICH coming from you.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:43 pmI think you may need to really think about whether he is one of the best humans you've met in the last couple of years. There is something seriously wrong with a person such as you describe. They've got issues with understanding and responding to reality.
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Everyone has issues. Those are not the reasons I respect him.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:43 pmI think you may need to really think about whether he is one of the best humans you've met in the last couple of years. There is something seriously wrong with a person such as you describe. They've got issues with understanding and responding to reality.
Like many, he’s gullible regarding Trump and Covid and corrupted by culture. I try to be patient and understanding with these things.
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Mark Twain said that its easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooledkalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:25 pmEveryone has issues. Those are not the reasons I respect him.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:43 pm
I think you may need to really think about whether he is one of the best humans you've met in the last couple of years. There is something seriously wrong with a person such as you describe. They've got issues with understanding and responding to reality.
Like many, he’s gullible regarding Trump and Covid and corrupted by culture. I try to be patient and understanding with these things.
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You're a good person Kalm. I'll try harder to be patient with Trip and Houndy as well.kalm wrote:Like many, Trip and Houndy are gullible regarding Bernie and socialism and corrupted by wokeism. I try to be patient and understanding with these things.

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The jocks, the dweebs, the wokes, the Bernie bros, the mods…they all think kalm is a righteous dude.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:40 amYou're a good person Kalm. I'll try harder to be patient with Trip and Houndy as well.kalm wrote:Like many, Trip and Houndy are gullible regarding Bernie and socialism and corrupted by wokeism. I try to be patient and understanding with these things.
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Ha! Just watched that scene the other day with my wife. There is a really nice older lady at our local grocery store and I swear she could be the actual secretary from FB's Day Off.
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Love her character.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:20 amHa! Just watched that scene the other day with my wife. There is a really nice older lady at our local grocery store and I swear she could be the actual secretary from FB's Day Off.

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Now that Pfizer has been court ordered to release the documents it provided to the FDA for approval, we see Pfizer said VAERS was very robust and therefore they didn't need anything else for longer term tracking.
So how is it Pfizer felt VAERS was robust and trustworthy, but now that the adverse events are piling up, we get people saying it isn't robust and trustworthy?
So how is it Pfizer felt VAERS was robust and trustworthy, but now that the adverse events are piling up, we get people saying it isn't robust and trustworthy?
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Jimmy Dore breaks down Dr. John Campbells analysis on some Ivermectin vs Remdesivir case studies. Yeah that "horse drug" was 70% effective at reducing mortality compared to 30% of Remdesivir. Imagine all the lives that could have been saved if not for the useful idiots actively suppressing a proven drug all so Big Pharma could reap massive profits.
Also seeing other studies showing that lockdowns did absolutely nothing to save lives. Fuck anyone that was or is in favor of mandates, lockdowns and any of the other bullshit ideas pushed by Big Pharma and the gubmint to "save lives".
Also seeing other studies showing that lockdowns did absolutely nothing to save lives. Fuck anyone that was or is in favor of mandates, lockdowns and any of the other bullshit ideas pushed by Big Pharma and the gubmint to "save lives".
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Listen, I had no problem with the mandates and the lockdowns in the beginning, but it became very apparently pretty quickly (within weeks) that neither were doing anything nor were they responsible for any declines we were seeing in case/death rates. So TRYING them was one thing. MANDATING them for two+ years is why i say “Fuck anyone who was in favor it them….”SDHornet wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm Jimmy Dore breaks down Dr. John Campbells analysis on some Ivermectin vs Remdesivir case studies. Yeah that "horse drug" was 70% effective at reducing mortality compared to 30% of Remdesivir. Imagine all the lives that could have been saved if not for the useful idiots actively suppressing a proven drug all so Big Pharma could reap massive profits.
Also seeing other studies showing that lockdowns did absolutely nothing to save lives. Fuck anyone that was or is in favor of mandates, lockdowns and any of the other bullshit ideas pushed by Big Pharma and the gubmint to "save lives".
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I'm still stunned that uninformed people who made shit lifestyle choices their whole lives, demanded that I submit to their choices and were willing to take away my job to force them upon me.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:00 pmListen, I had no problem with the mandates and the lockdowns in the beginning, but it became very apparently pretty quickly (within weeks) that neither were doing anything nor were they responsible for any declines we were seeing in case/death rates. So TRYING them was one thing. MANDATING them for two+ years is why i say “Fuck anyone who was in favor it them….”SDHornet wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm Jimmy Dore breaks down Dr. John Campbells analysis on some Ivermectin vs Remdesivir case studies. Yeah that "horse drug" was 70% effective at reducing mortality compared to 30% of Remdesivir. Imagine all the lives that could have been saved if not for the useful idiots actively suppressing a proven drug all so Big Pharma could reap massive profits.
Also seeing other studies showing that lockdowns did absolutely nothing to save lives. Fuck anyone that was or is in favor of mandates, lockdowns and any of the other bullshit ideas pushed by Big Pharma and the gubmint to "save lives".
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More proof the lockdowns were utter bullshit as the China Virus was already circulating globally before the lockdowns were implemented.
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Even more sure that it’s what I had on the cruise ship I was on in December of 2019. Never had anything like that before in my life. And I’ve gone all of the “recognized” COVID period with nary an issue, despite multiple exposures, wearing masks only when required, very little social distancing, etc., etc.
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I had just came back from South Korea during that time and even since then I have never had any symptoms indicating I have had it. Haven't been sick at all during that time either.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:16 am
Even more sure that it’s what I had on the cruise ship I was on in December of 2019. Never had anything like that before in my life. And I’ve gone all of the “recognized” COVID period with nary an issue, despite multiple exposures, wearing masks only when required, very little social distancing, etc., etc.
And I had the same type of exposure as you did.
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It was well known very early in the pandemic that roughly 85% of the population had varying levels of preexisting immunity. So that then begs the question. How many people didn't need the vaccine and were forced to get it?Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:21 amI had just came back from South Korea during that time and even since then I have never had any symptoms indicating I have had it. Haven't been sick at all during that time either.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:16 am
Even more sure that it’s what I had on the cruise ship I was on in December of 2019. Never had anything like that before in my life. And I’ve gone all of the “recognized” COVID period with nary an issue, despite multiple exposures, wearing masks only when required, very little social distancing, etc., etc.
And I had the same type of exposure as you did.
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I chalked it up to the Scotch I was drinking.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:17 amIt was well known very early in the pandemic that roughly 85% of the population had varying levels of preexisting immunity.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:21 am
I had just came back from South Korea during that time and even since then I have never had any symptoms indicating I have had it. Haven't been sick at all during that time either.
And I had the same type of exposure as you did.

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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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