2024 Primary

[houndawg]

It speaks to what a zero you have to be to not be able to come withing 2,000,000 votes of the most disliked politician in the nation at the time.

You're right. I really feel for that absolute zero who got his butt kicked by the most disliked politician in the primaries.

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[Pwns]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144

And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.

Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.

[SDHornet]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144

And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.

Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.

The worse things get under Biden*, the easier it will be for folks to vote for him.

That said I'd prefer DeSantis.

[Ivytalk]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144

And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.

Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.

You just insulted the memory of Grover Cleveland, the perennial winner of the Best Presidential Stache contest.

[kalm]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144

And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.

Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.

Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.

[Ivytalk]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144

And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.

Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.

Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.

But you’ll vote for such a Dem candidate anyway, when push comes to shove. Because that’s what you do.

[Baldy]

So the WaPoop posted this today...

[AZGrizFan]

So the WaPoop posted this today...

That party is FUUUUUUCKED.

[UNI88]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144

And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.

Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.

Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.

As opposed to a disingenuous, preachy, outsider candidate like Bernie or AOChe?

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[kalm]

Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.

As opposed to a disingenuous, preachy, outsider candidate like Bernie or AOChe?

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I’ll allow it.

[HI54UNI]

So the WaPoop posted this today...

That party is FUUUUUUCKED.

+6.93

[BDKJMU]

Weekend at Bernie’s- Biden is running in 2024..or so he says..
https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/joe-biden ... -2024/amp/

[Winterborn]

Weekend at Bernie’s- Biden is running in 2024..or so he says..
https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/joe-biden ... -2024/amp/

[houndawg]

So the WaPoop posted this today...

That party is FUUUUUUCKED.

As long as Trump runs JB will be OK - remember that Trump couldn't get within 3,000,000 votes of the most unpopular politician of the last 100 years.

[UNI88]

WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked

10. Mike Pompeo
9. Chris Sununu
8. Glenn Youngkin
7. Ted Cruz
6. Tim Scott
5. Donald Trump Jr.
4. Mike Pence
3. Nikki Haley
2. Ron DeSantis
1. Donald Trump

Who can appeal to the base and independents?

[Winterborn]

WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked

10. Mike Pompeo
9. Chris Sununu
8. Glenn Youngkin
7. Ted Cruz
6. Tim Scott
5. Donald Trump Jr.
4. Mike Pence
3. Nikki Haley
2. Ron DeSantis
1. Donald Trump

Who can appeal to the base and independents?

May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.

[UNI88]

WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked

Who can appeal to the base and independents?

May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.

I don't know, that's a pretty crappy list too. I would guess that there are quite a few independent types that would rather stay home then vote for Trump or one of his thin-skinned vindictive lickspittles.

Appeal to the MAGAt base: Pompeo, Cruz, Trump Jr., DeSantis, Trump
Appeal to independents and traditional Republicans: Sununu, Haley
Possibly appeal to both: Youngkin, Scott
Not sure who they appeal to: Pence

[kalm]

May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.

I don't know, that's a pretty crappy list too. I would guess that there are quite a few independent types that would rather stay home then vote for Trump or one of his thin-skinned vindictive lickspittles.

Appeal to the MAGAt base: Pompeo, Cruz, Trump Jr., DeSantis, Trump
Appeal to independents and traditional Republicans: Sununu, Haley
Possibly appeal to both: Youngkin, Scott
Not sure who they appeal to: Pence

As a moderate, does this resonate with you?

https://rescueamerica.com/11-point-plan/

https://rescueamerica.com/11-point-plan/

[AZGrizFan]

That party is FUUUUUUCKED.

As long as Trump runs JB will be OK - remember that Trump couldn't get within 3,000,000 votes of the most unpopular politician of the last 100 years.

You think keeping Brandon in the basement for 18 months of campaigning is gonna work this time?

[AZGrizFan]

WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked

10. Mike Pompeo
9. Chris Sununu
8. Glenn Youngkin
7. Ted Cruz
6. Tim Scott
5. Donald Trump Jr.
4. Mike Pence
3. Nikki Haley
2. Ron DeSantis
1. Donald Trump

Who can appeal to the base and independents?

Anybody on that list except #1.

[houndawg]

As long as Trump runs JB will be OK - remember that Trump couldn't get within 3,000,000 votes of the most unpopular politician of the last 100 years.

You think keeping Brandon in the basement for 18 months of campaigning is gonna work this time?

I'm not even sure he'll still be above ground then

[Winterborn]

May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.

I don't know, that's a pretty crappy list too. I would guess that there are quite a few independent types that would rather stay home then vote for Trump or one of his thin-skinned vindictive lickspittles.

Appeal to the MAGAt base: Pompeo, Cruz, Trump Jr., DeSantis, Trump
Appeal to independents and traditional Republicans: Sununu, Haley
Possibly appeal to both: Youngkin, Scott
Not sure who they appeal to: Pence

I do not disagree, but another 2 1/2 years of Biden/Dems continuing like they have been is going to change peoples perspective a bit I think. No matter what happens this fall, Biden (and thereby the Dems) are going to take the blame for inflation, high gas prices, etc. and the R's are going to run that message all the way to the fall of 2024. Granted the 25th amendment could be invoked for Biden or he steps down (don't see it as a realistic chance but it is possible) and the D's could pivot to a more moderate stance (also do not see this happening) so things could change, as 2 1/2 years is a long time in the political world. I also think the Dems will keep Biden under wraps as long as possible and bury his deteriorating condition until they absolutely can't anymore. This is either going to allow them to pretend all is well or spectacularly blow up in their face when he slips his handlers and does/says something stupid on camera that they can't explain away.

That said the only one that is some what interesting to me is DeSantis but that depends if sticks his course or not (if he does than probably not).

• Sununu is not going to run

• Haley is a strong possibility but I have voiced my thoughts on her here before

• Youngkin does not have the experience

• Cruz is an idiot and nobody really likes him but he will try just for the title of former presidential candidate

• Scott is an outside possibility

• Trump Jr. is not going to run and the only reason his name is on the list is his dad

• Pence does not have the name nor pull

• Trump strong possibility but the Dems would have to crater even further for him to win

• Pompeo is a good chance to run but he will not make it out of the first round

Some of the above will throw their hat in the ring but the only people that have a serious shot are Trump, DeSantis, and Haley. Out of those three, I might go DeSantis but it depends on his actions in the next 2 1/2 years, but strong odds are I go third party again.

[houndawg]

Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.

But you’ll vote for such a Dem candidate anyway, when push comes to shove. Because that’s what you do.

Much more likely that he'd be voting against the Republican candidate.

[GannonFan]

WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked



Who can appeal to the base and independents?

Anybody on that list except #1.

If the GOP runs Trump I can't vote for him, and I'm sure there are many just like me out there. If the GOP runs probably anyone but Trump then they win the White House in '24. Trump's best chance for influence now is as a power broker/king maker. That should appeal to his enormous vanity very well.

[kalm]

But you’ll vote for such a Dem candidate anyway, when push comes to shove. Because that’s what you do.

Much more likely that he'd be voting against the Republican candidate.

With a few caveats. A reasonable Republican versus Hillary for example….and depending on congressional make up.