The Ukraine Crisis

[houndawg]

...and they lost those people for the same reason they're losing them now - piss poor leadership, third-rate equipment.... about the only thing they have for their supporters like your traitor-ass self to cling to is they're white

Except they’re not losing sqaut now. 30k, 50k, even 100k troops is nothing to them. WW II they had around 25 million military casulties, 10 million military dead. Wake me up if they lose even 5% of what they lost to the Krauts

Densedawg school of logic: if you arent a Ukraine flag weaving cheerleader, you’re a traitor.

I believe that flag-weaving is a hyphenated modifier.

[UNI88]

...and they lost those people for the same reason they're losing them now - piss poor leadership, third-rate equipment.... about the only thing they have for their supporters like your traitor-ass self to cling to is they're white

Except they’re not losing sqaut now. 30k, 50k, even 100k troops is nothing to them. WW II they had around 25 million military casulties, 10 million military dead. Wake me up if they lose even 5% of what they lost to the Krauts

Densedawg school of logic: if you arent a Ukraine flag weaving cheerleader, you’re a traitor.

Is that the opposite of the "if you support Ukraine, you're a fascist" line of logic?

[houndawg]

30,000 dead Russians.

You expect people defending their homes to quit?

JSO is convinced 100,000,000 Americans armed with 500,000,000 guns and billions of rounds of ammo would quit against the US Army that couldn’t defeat the fucking Taliban using 80’s era soviet rifles.

They wouldn't quit - you'll find them at bottom of the crater the drone made of their home.

[SeattleGriz]

New York Times running the lack of Intel story now. American intelligence apparently knows little about what Ukraine is up to. Hmm.

[houndawg]

New York Times running the lack of Intel story now. American intelligence apparently knows little about what Ukraine is up to. Hmm.

Obviously they have their own interests first like every other nation - but we're getting what we want so we hav e to cut them a little slack. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And Putin can make it stop any time he wants to and I doubt he has the money to hang on long enough for a Trump victory to help him. Assuming Trump isn't behind bars of course.

[SDHornet]

"UkRaInE iS wInNiNg"

[SDHornet]

[Skjellyfetti]

"UkRaInE iS wInNiNg"

I'm not sure what has you so excited in that tweet.

Do you think Russia is not losing troops? You are pretty confident they're losing significantly less than 100 per day... or?

A possible cholera outbreak in Russian-occupied Mariupol? Surely that's not it.

Britain continuing to support Ukraine. Uhhh. Nope. Not it.

Russia lowering interest rates. Really? Is that it?

[SDHornet]

"UkRaInE iS wInNiNg"

I'm not sure what has you so excited in that tweet.

Do you think Russia is not losing troops? You are pretty confident they're losing significantly less than 100 per day... or?

A possible cholera outbreak in Russian-occupied Mariupol? Surely that's not it.

Britain continuing to support Ukraine. Uhhh. Nope. Not it.

Russia lowering interest rates. Really? Is that it?

Of course they are, are they attritioning at a higher rate than Ukraine? If they were, me thinks they wouldn't still be gobbling up territory like they are.

Maripol was packed to the gills with nazi's in the early part of this was (and before then). Not surprised some of their filth is still there even after they have lost.

Britain can throw away whatever resources it wants on this war. Couldn't care less what they and Europe do.

Lowering interest rates indicates the sanctions aren't working...but we all knew that already.

Cope and seethe more, it suits you well.

[Skjellyfetti]

Are they, though?

Remember when you thought Ukraine would no longer exist as a country after the first week? No matter what happens in Severodonetsk (a place you surely had never heard of in the first weekend) - Ukraine will emerge from this remaining sovereign country. That's an L for Russia as that was their primary goal.

Remember when Russia was close to encircling Kyiv and there was a menacing column heading towards the capital that would surely end it? Oops.




Here's a hint: no one "wins" this war. No matter what happens - Ukraine and Russia will be far worse off than they were before the war. That's exactly what I posted when it first broke out (when you were excited about Russia conquering Ukraine in a weekend)

Zelenskyy seems very likely to remain in power and Ukraine seems very likely to remain a sovereign country. Both of those seemed very much in question at the beginning of the war. That is "winning" - defying expectations - but, it's not like Ukraine is better off. Ukraine may lose some more territory - not enough to make it worth anywhere near enough to Russia to justify the blood or treasure they've invested in it, but a bit. That is "losing." Yes, it's very hard to argue Ukraine is "winning" as a huge part of their country has been utterly bombed out. Russia has failed to achieve it's primary objectives - objectives you (and they) thought they would complete pretty swiftly. In no way is Russia coming out of this positively either.

And, you can fuck right off with your "cope and seethe." It just exposes you as the troll you are and makes me question why I engage you at all.

[SDHornet]

Me and the brilliant intel community were claiming this would be over in a matter of days. That's what I get for thinking they knew what was going on over there.

I've acknowledged the Kyiv defense as a big win for Ukraine. I wonder how much material they lost in that defense. From what I've read, Ukraine's mechanized forces have been severely lacking in other theaters of the war ever since then.

Regarding who wins, we'll have to wait and see on that. Baring NATO boots on the ground/no fly zone it's safe to say there is nothing stopping Russia. However much territory they plan to take is totally up to them and what they are willing to expend on this war. Russia's economy isn't nearly impacted as people thought it would, so they may not come out of this nearly as bad. Time will tell.

Zelensky is nothing but a hype man. To his credit, he's been running a good PR campaign (backed by the West of course). I've read his political decisions have been getting in the way of what some of the commanders recommend for the sake of PR instead of the right tactical decision (for example reinforcing Severodonentsk instead of a tactical retreat to a better defensible position). And you gotta wonder here all these weapons that are being sent over there are going...or maybe they are just being used up that fast. Probably being sold elsewhere given the level of corruption of his government.

Yes, I know your wife is from there. Hope her family got out while they could and weren't foolish enough to rely on the West to save them. But spare me the "woe is me" card. You've openly embraced and supported the Marxist policies implemented by the Left that are crushing those most vulnerable (working and middle class, minorities in urban areas) in this country. Your wife's family and those being crushed by Marxist policies would be in a much better place right now if people didn't peddle Russian Collusion to get rid of Orange Man. Never forget that you were one of many pinning for the people that have implemented all this misery.

[houndawg]

I'm not sure what has you so excited in that tweet.

Do you think Russia is not losing troops? You are pretty confident they're losing significantly less than 100 per day... or?

A possible cholera outbreak in Russian-occupied Mariupol? Surely that's not it.

Britain continuing to support Ukraine. Uhhh. Nope. Not it.

Russia lowering interest rates. Really? Is that it?

Of course they are, are they attritioning at a higher rate than Ukraine? If they were, me thinks they wouldn't still be gobbling up territory like they are.

Maripol was packed to the gills with nazi's in the early part of this was (and before then). Not surprised some of their filth is still there even after they have lost.

Britain can throw away whatever resources it wants on this war. Couldn't care less what they and Europe do.

Lowering interest rates indicates the sanctions aren't working...but we all knew that already.

Cope and seethe more, it suits you well.

ooopsie

[houndawg]

Me and the brilliant intel community were claiming this would be over in a matter of days. That's what I get for thinking they knew what was going on over there.

I've acknowledged the Kyiv defense as a big win for Ukraine. I wonder how much material they lost in that defense. From what I've read, Ukraine's mechanized forces have been severely lacking in other theaters of the war ever since then.

Regarding who wins, we'll have to wait and see on that. Baring NATO boots on the ground/no fly zone it's safe to say there is nothing stopping Russia. However much territory they plan to take is totally up to them and what they are willing to expend on this war. Russia's economy isn't nearly impacted as people thought it would, so they may not come out of this nearly as bad. Time will tell.

Zelensky is nothing but a hype man. To his credit, he's been running a good PR campaign (backed by the West of course). I've read his political decisions have been getting in the way of what some of the commanders recommend for the sake of PR instead of the right tactical decision (for example reinforcing Severodonentsk instead of a tactical retreat to a better defensible position). And you gotta wonder here all these weapons that are being sent over there are going...or maybe they are just being used up that fast. Probably being sold elsewhere given the level of corruption of his government.

Yes, I know your wife is from there. Hope her family got out while they could and weren't foolish enough to rely on the West to save them. But spare me the "woe is me" card. You've openly embraced and supported the Marxist policies implemented by the Left that are crushing those most vulnerable (working and middle class, minorities in urban areas) in this country. Your wife's family and those being crushed by Marxist policies would be in a much better place right now if people didn't peddle Russian Collusion to get rid of Orange Man. Never forget that you were one of many pinning for the people that have implemented all this misery.

Sucking Russian dick from Day 1.

Why don't you go live in Russia? Maybe that will clue you in to what Putin is really worried about.

And seriously, Marxist policies don't crush those most vulnerable...people crush those most vulnerable. If only there were some analogy that could help your last firing synapse relate...

Two neighboring countries with Marxist policies...yet one enjoys a clearly better lifestyle.... and the Russian neighbors wonder how come they can't have the kind of lifestyle that their brethren in Ukraine have.....

[SeattleGriz]

New York Times running the lack of Intel story now. American intelligence apparently knows little about what Ukraine is up to. Hmm.

Now Biden is saying Zelensky wouldn't listen to US advice.

Double Hmm.

How long until everything is Zelensky's fault?

[kalm]

I'm not sure what has you so excited in that tweet.

Do you think Russia is not losing troops? You are pretty confident they're losing significantly less than 100 per day... or?

A possible cholera outbreak in Russian-occupied Mariupol? Surely that's not it.

Britain continuing to support Ukraine. Uhhh. Nope. Not it.

Russia lowering interest rates. Really? Is that it?

Of course they are, are they attritioning at a higher rate than Ukraine? If they were, me thinks they wouldn't still be gobbling up territory like they are.

Maripol was packed to the gills with nazi's in the early part of this was (and before then). Not surprised some of their filth is still there even after they have lost.

Britain can throw away whatever resources it wants on this war. Couldn't care less what they and Europe do.

Lowering interest rates indicates the sanctions aren't working...but we all knew that already.

Cope and seethe more, it suits you well.

Cholera is a Nazi disease? Who knew? I thought Nazi’s were into sanitation and hygeine.

[kalm]

Are they, though?

Remember when you thought Ukraine would no longer exist as a country after the first week? No matter what happens in Severodonetsk (a place you surely had never heard of in the first weekend) - Ukraine will emerge from this remaining sovereign country. That's an L for Russia as that was their primary goal.

Remember when Russia was close to encircling Kyiv and there was a menacing column heading towards the capital that would surely end it? Oops.




Here's a hint: no one "wins" this war. No matter what happens - Ukraine and Russia will be far worse off than they were before the war. That's exactly what I posted when it first broke out (when you were excited about Russia conquering Ukraine in a weekend)

Zelenskyy seems very likely to remain in power and Ukraine seems very likely to remain a sovereign country. Both of those seemed very much in question at the beginning of the war. That is "winning" - defying expectations - but, it's not like Ukraine is better off. Ukraine may lose some more territory - not enough to make it worth anywhere near enough to Russia to justify the blood or treasure they've invested in it, but a bit. That is "losing." Yes, it's very hard to argue Ukraine is "winning" as a huge part of their country has been utterly bombed out. Russia has failed to achieve it's primary objectives - objectives you (and they) thought they would complete pretty swiftly. In no way is Russia coming out of this positively either.

And, you can fuck right off with your "cope and seethe." It just exposes you as the troll you are and makes me question why I engage you at all.

Yeah…Ukraine needs to surrender. The Baltic’s too. So many nazis to kill, so many territories to re-empire…so little time.

[houndawg]

Are they, though?

Remember when you thought Ukraine would no longer exist as a country after the first week? No matter what happens in Severodonetsk (a place you surely had never heard of in the first weekend) - Ukraine will emerge from this remaining sovereign country. That's an L for Russia as that was their primary goal.

Remember when Russia was close to encircling Kyiv and there was a menacing column heading towards the capital that would surely end it? Oops.




Here's a hint: no one "wins" this war. No matter what happens - Ukraine and Russia will be far worse off than they were before the war. That's exactly what I posted when it first broke out (when you were excited about Russia conquering Ukraine in a weekend)

Zelenskyy seems very likely to remain in power and Ukraine seems very likely to remain a sovereign country. Both of those seemed very much in question at the beginning of the war. That is "winning" - defying expectations - but, it's not like Ukraine is better off. Ukraine may lose some more territory - not enough to make it worth anywhere near enough to Russia to justify the blood or treasure they've invested in it, but a bit. That is "losing." Yes, it's very hard to argue Ukraine is "winning" as a huge part of their country has been utterly bombed out. Russia has failed to achieve it's primary objectives - objectives you (and they) thought they would complete pretty swiftly. In no way is Russia coming out of this positively either.

And, you can fuck right off with your "cope and seethe." It just exposes you as the troll you are and makes me question why I engage you at all.

Yeah…Ukraine needs to surrender. The Baltic’s too. So many nazis to kill, so many territories to re-empire…so little time.

Yeah, Henry Kissinger is right, if Ukraine will just give Russia some territory everything will be OK

[SeattleGriz]

[houndawg]

Me and the brilliant intel community were claiming this would be over in a matter of days. That's what I get for thinking they knew what was going on over there.

I've acknowledged the Kyiv defense as a big win for Ukraine. I wonder how much material they lost in that defense. From what I've read, Ukraine's mechanized forces have been severely lacking in other theaters of the war ever since then.

Regarding who wins, we'll have to wait and see on that. Baring NATO boots on the ground/no fly zone it's safe to say there is nothing stopping Russia. However much territory they plan to take is totally up to them and what they are willing to expend on this war. Russia's economy isn't nearly impacted as people thought it would, so they may not come out of this nearly as bad. Time will tell.

Zelensky is nothing but a hype man. To his credit, he's been running a good PR campaign (backed by the West of course). I've read his political decisions have been getting in the way of what some of the commanders recommend for the sake of PR instead of the right tactical decision (for example reinforcing Severodonentsk instead of a tactical retreat to a better defensible position). And you gotta wonder here all these weapons that are being sent over there are going...or maybe they are just being used up that fast. Probably being sold elsewhere given the level of corruption of his government.

Yes, I know your wife is from there. Hope her family got out while they could and weren't foolish enough to rely on the West to save them. But spare me the "woe is me" card. You've openly embraced and supported the Marxist policies implemented by the Left that are crushing those most vulnerable (working and middle class, minorities in urban areas) in this country. Your wife's family and those being crushed by Marxist policies would be in a much better place right now if people didn't peddle Russian Collusion to get rid of Orange Man. Never forget that you were one of many pinning for the people that have implemented all this misery.

Not sure about the Swedish anti-ship missiles but there isn't much doubt about where the manpads are going, you can't walk 100 feet in Ukraine without detouring around yet another burnt out Russian tank.

Russia has already lost hundreds of billions in future sales of their weapons. Cheap third world knock offs - planes that have to stay in Russian airspace to fire missiles at Ukraine, tanks that should come equipped with an audio system that plays Pop Goes the Weasel, troops that have zero stomach for invading their neighbors and spend more time looting than fighting......Little Vladimir really fucked up this time

[houndawg]

Me and the brilliant intel community were claiming this would be over in a matter of days. That's what I get for thinking they knew what was going on over there.

I've acknowledged the Kyiv defense as a big win for Ukraine. I wonder how much material they lost in that defense. From what I've read, Ukraine's mechanized forces have been severely lacking in other theaters of the war ever since then.

Regarding who wins, we'll have to wait and see on that. Baring NATO boots on the ground/no fly zone it's safe to say there is nothing stopping Russia. However much territory they plan to take is totally up to them and what they are willing to expend on this war. Russia's economy isn't nearly impacted as people thought it would, so they may not come out of this nearly as bad. Time will tell.

Zelensky is nothing but a hype man. To his credit, he's been running a good PR campaign (backed by the West of course). I've read his political decisions have been getting in the way of what some of the commanders recommend for the sake of PR instead of the right tactical decision (for example reinforcing Severodonentsk instead of a tactical retreat to a better defensible position). And you gotta wonder here all these weapons that are being sent over there are going...or maybe they are just being used up that fast. Probably being sold elsewhere given the level of corruption of his government.

Yes, I know your wife is from there. Hope her family got out while they could and weren't foolish enough to rely on the West to save them. But spare me the "woe is me" card. You've openly embraced and supported the Marxist policies implemented by the Left that are crushing those most vulnerable (working and middle class, minorities in urban areas) in this country. Your wife's family and those being crushed by Marxist policies would be in a much better place right now if people didn't peddle Russian Collusion to get rid of Orange Man. Never forget that you were one of many pinning for the people that have implemented all this misery.

Policies don't crush those most vulnerable SaDHornet, people do.

[kalm]

Me and the brilliant intel community were claiming this would be over in a matter of days. That's what I get for thinking they knew what was going on over there.

I've acknowledged the Kyiv defense as a big win for Ukraine. I wonder how much material they lost in that defense. From what I've read, Ukraine's mechanized forces have been severely lacking in other theaters of the war ever since then.

Regarding who wins, we'll have to wait and see on that. Baring NATO boots on the ground/no fly zone it's safe to say there is nothing stopping Russia. However much territory they plan to take is totally up to them and what they are willing to expend on this war. Russia's economy isn't nearly impacted as people thought it would, so they may not come out of this nearly as bad. Time will tell.

Zelensky is nothing but a hype man. To his credit, he's been running a good PR campaign (backed by the West of course). I've read his political decisions have been getting in the way of what some of the commanders recommend for the sake of PR instead of the right tactical decision (for example reinforcing Severodonentsk instead of a tactical retreat to a better defensible position). And you gotta wonder here all these weapons that are being sent over there are going...or maybe they are just being used up that fast. Probably being sold elsewhere given the level of corruption of his government.

Yes, I know your wife is from there. Hope her family got out while they could and weren't foolish enough to rely on the West to save them. But spare me the "woe is me" card. You've openly embraced and supported the Marxist policies implemented by the Left that are crushing those most vulnerable (working and middle class, minorities in urban areas) in this country. Your wife's family and those being crushed by Marxist policies would be in a much better place right now if people didn't peddle Russian Collusion to get rid of Orange Man. Never forget that you were one of many pinning for the people that have implemented all this misery.

Policies don't crush those most vulnerable SaDHornet, people do.

I wonder if he’s aware that true marxism is a reaction to crony capitalism?

[houndawg]

I'm not sure what has you so excited in that tweet.

Do you think Russia is not losing troops? You are pretty confident they're losing significantly less than 100 per day... or?

A possible cholera outbreak in Russian-occupied Mariupol? Surely that's not it.

Britain continuing to support Ukraine. Uhhh. Nope. Not it.

Russia lowering interest rates. Really? Is that it?

Of course they are, are they attritioning at a higher rate than Ukraine? If they were, me thinks they wouldn't still be gobbling up territory like they are.

Maripol was packed to the gills with nazi's in the early part of this was (and before then). Not surprised some of their filth is still there even after they have lost.

Britain can throw away whatever resources it wants on this war. Couldn't care less what they and Europe do.

Lowering interest rates indicates the sanctions aren't working...but we all knew that already.

Cope and seethe more, it suits you well.

Its the dead Russians laying around

[houndawg]

Policies don't crush those most vulnerable SaDHornet, people do.

I wonder if he’s aware that true marxism is a reaction to crony capitalism?

7-3 against

[AZGrizFan]

Policies don't crush those most vulnerable SaDHornet, people do.

I wonder if he’s aware that true marxism is a reaction to crony capitalism?

Yep. Just one small, insignificant hurdle to successfully implementing true Marxism: overcoming human nature.

Should be a snap, right? You two…flagellating each other like a couple of twinks.

[UNI88]

I wonder if he’s aware that true marxism is a reaction to crony capitalism?

Yep. Just one small, insignificant hurdle to successfully implementing true Marxism: overcoming human nature.

Should be a snap, right? You two…flagellating each other like a couple of twinks.

Yea, true Marxism has never been implemented on a significant scale because it goes against human nature so I'm not sure how it could be a reaction to crony capitalism.

As for where it's been attempted, I'm not sure you could call Tsarist Russia or the Republic of China crony capitalist states