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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:42 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:13 pm

He was never a brain surgeon anyway. Like I said, I think he means well and his heart is in the right place. But I don't Oz is a bad guy either so it's not like any of these guys are awful human beings. But I expect more out of a US Senator. I told my wife the governor's race is easy (I wouldn't vote for Mastrioni on a bet) and my local rep is a Donk and she's been good in office so I'm voting for her again. But I haven't decided in the Senate race yet and I don't vote for party I vote for the person. Fetterman needs to show a little more than just having a campaign team that's good at snarky internet memes and tweets.
So I take it she's not a CPC (congressional progressive caucus) type left winger?
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Baldy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:17 am
houndawg wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:53 am

Isn't that normal procedure for the candidate with the lead? :?
Depends on which party is doing the dodging.
If Oz was in the lead and dodging debates, he would be in the direct cross hairs of the national media.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:22 pm

Have you not seen the guy to to put together a coherent sentence? He's worse off mentally than Biden.
Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
Sounds like he isn't fit for the job. :coffee:
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Should have probably nominated someone other than Dr Oz.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:16 am Should have probably nominated someone other than Dr Oz.
For real. Pennsylvania is going to lose either way.
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Baldy wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:55 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm

Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
Sounds like he isn't fit for the job. :coffee:
Maybe? Speech issues don’t always indicate cognitive issues. :coffee:

(Same with grammer :mrgreen: )
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:22 pm
Have you not seen the guy to to put together a coherent sentence? He's worse off mentally than Biden.
Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
:suspicious: Not everyone recovers from a stroke.

Fetterman seems likes he's more style than substance so maybe it doesn't matter as much for him.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:10 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm

Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
:suspicious: Not everyone recovers from a stroke.

Fetterman seems likes he's more style than substance so maybe it doesn't matter as much for him.
True. Not everyone.

And yes…he’s a politician so style is all that matters to most people.

What are his policy positions that you disagree with.
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:10 am

:suspicious: Not everyone recovers from a stroke.

Fetterman seems likes he's more style than substance so maybe it doesn't matter as much for him.
True. Not everyone.

And yes…he’s a politician so style is all that matters to most people.

What are his policy positions that you disagree with.
He's not really a policy guy, unless you think how many homes Oz is and where those homes are are policy. I get it, it's a winning move in a race where you're ahead and when people do look to smarmy tweets and memes to determine who's winning the social media battle. But it also hides the fact that he's the opposite of a policy wonk. Even on his more signature positions, like say criminal justice reform (an area I'm actually in agreement) he's real light on what the solutions look like. His main policy on that to date is to sit on the prison reform board (as Lt Gov that's one of the jobs) - but that just goes after individual cases that warrant reform, not any far reaching, system-wide ideas on how to rectify what's wrong. And that's easily one of his strongest policy areas. I think he's probably a nice guy. Heck, I think Oz is probably a nice guy. I guess I'm looking for more in my Senators, though.
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:46 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:19 am
True. Not everyone.

And yes…he’s a politician so style is all that matters to most people.

What are his policy positions that you disagree with.
He's not really a policy guy, unless you think how many homes Oz is and where those homes are are policy. I get it, it's a winning move in a race where you're ahead and when people do look to smarmy tweets and memes to determine who's winning the social media battle. But it also hides the fact that he's the opposite of a policy wonk. Even on his more signature positions, like say criminal justice reform (an area I'm actually in agreement) he's real light on what the solutions look like. His main policy on that to date is to sit on the prison reform board (as Lt Gov that's one of the jobs) - but that just goes after individual cases that warrant reform, not any far reaching, system-wide ideas on how to rectify what's wrong. And that's easily one of his strongest policy areas. I think he's probably a nice guy. Heck, I think Oz is probably a nice guy. I guess I'm looking for more in my Senators, though.
Seems like he's mostly bluster and show.

Didn't we just have an elected official like that? Could Fetterman be a fascist too? :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:46 pm
GannonFan wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:46 am

He's not really a policy guy, unless you think how many homes Oz is and where those homes are are policy. I get it, it's a winning move in a race where you're ahead and when people do look to smarmy tweets and memes to determine who's winning the social media battle. But it also hides the fact that he's the opposite of a policy wonk. Even on his more signature positions, like say criminal justice reform (an area I'm actually in agreement) he's real light on what the solutions look like. His main policy on that to date is to sit on the prison reform board (as Lt Gov that's one of the jobs) - but that just goes after individual cases that warrant reform, not any far reaching, system-wide ideas on how to rectify what's wrong. And that's easily one of his strongest policy areas. I think he's probably a nice guy. Heck, I think Oz is probably a nice guy. I guess I'm looking for more in my Senators, though.
Seems like he's mostly bluster and show.

Didn't we just have an elected official like that? Could Fetterman be a fascist too? :coffee:
No, Fascists aren't nice people. Except maybe to other fascists. :thumb:
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:10 am

:suspicious: Not everyone recovers from a stroke.

Fetterman seems likes he's more style than substance so maybe it doesn't matter as much for him.
True. Not everyone.

And yes…he’s a politician so style is all that matters to most people.

What are his policy positions that you disagree with.
Well, he agrees with the entire Bernie Sanders agenda (he said so). Positions he has openly stated he wants:
-to ban fracking (which is huge in PA)
-get rid of fossil fuels (he has signed a "no fossil fuels" pledge)
-raise taxes
-increase spending
-to release 1/3 of all prisoners in PA (despite current high crime rates (record high in PA cities).
-to decriminalize ALL illegal drugs
-open borders
-sanctuary cities
-against voter id
-abortion on demand with no restrictions, including partial birth
-for boys to be able to play on girls sports teams
-to ban modern sporting rifles

etc, etc, etc. He's basically you're typical far leftist masquerading behind his shaved head, goatee, tats, hoodie "i'm just like one of you union guys" blue collar shtick, which is a complete fraud. He was born to a wealthy family, lived with his parents until he was almost 40, bought his house from his sister for $1, and never had a real job before he somehow got elected mayor of a small town in PA at age 35.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:28 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:19 am

True. Not everyone.

And yes…he’s a politician so style is all that matters to most people.

What are his policy positions that you disagree with.
Well, he agrees with the entire Bernie Sanders agenda (he said so). Positions he has openly stated he wants:
-to ban fracking (which is huge in PA)
-get rid of fossil fuels (he has signed a "no fossil fuels" pledge)
-raise taxes
-increase spending
-to release 1/3 of all prisoners in PA (despite current high crime rates (record high in PA cities).
-to decriminalize ALL illegal drugs
-open borders
-sanctuary cities
-against voter id
-abortion on demand with no restrictions, including partial birth
-for boys to be able to play on girls sports teams
-to ban modern sporting rifles

etc, etc, etc. He's basically you're typical far leftist masquerading behind his shaved head, goatee, tats, hoodie "i'm just like one of you union guys" blue collar shtick, which is a complete fraud. He was born to a wealthy family, lived with his parents until he was almost 40, bought his house from his sister for $1, and never had a real job before he somehow got elected mayor of a small town in PA at age 35.
And his brain is fucking FRIED. He’s a damned train wreck.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:01 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm

Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
((Sadly…Oz’s douchebaggery might be terminal))
I'm surprised the conks would nominate somebody who is a good friend of Oprah.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:44 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:28 pm
Well, he agrees with the entire Bernie Sanders agenda (he said so). Positions he has openly stated he wants:
-to ban fracking (which is huge in PA)
-get rid of fossil fuels (he has signed a "no fossil fuels" pledge)
-raise taxes
-increase spending
-to release 1/3 of all prisoners in PA (despite current high crime rates (record high in PA cities).
-to decriminalize ALL illegal drugs
-open borders
-sanctuary cities
-against voter id
-abortion on demand with no restrictions, including partial birth
-for boys to be able to play on girls sports teams
-to ban modern sporting rifles

etc, etc, etc. He's basically you're typical far leftist masquerading behind his shaved head, goatee, tats, hoodie "i'm just like one of you union guys" blue collar shtick, which is a complete fraud. He was born to a wealthy family, lived with his parents until he was almost 40, bought his house from his sister for $1, and never had a real job before he somehow got elected mayor of a small town in PA at age 35.
And his brain is fucking FRIED. He’s a damned train wreck.
Well what can you do in that situation but run for the Senate? Its about the only thing he's qualified for...
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houndawg wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:19 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:44 pm

And his brain is fucking FRIED. He’s a damned train wreck.
Well what can you do in that situation but run for the Senate? Its about the only thing he's qualified for...
First coherent post you’ve made in months.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:08 am Obvioulsy not well. No wonder he is ducking debating Oz.
What the hell is giving away the ‘lieutenant governor governor’ :suspicious:

Maybe this guy is some kind of idiot savant..
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:16 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:08 am Obvioulsy not well. No wonder he is ducking debating Oz.
What the hell is giving away the ‘lieutenant governor governor’ :suspicious:

Maybe this guy is some kind of idiot savant..
At least he isn't being controlled by Oprah - wait til the conks find out about that!
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A majority of Americans believe MAGA is a threat to Democracy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/most-a ... 022-09-07/
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:59 am
If true, that would mean that both major party candidates do.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:05 am
kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:59 am
If true, that would mean that both major party candidates do.
It’s a prerequisite.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:22 pm

Have you not seen the guy to to put together a coherent sentence? He's worse off mentally than Biden.
Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
Yes, then he shouldn't be running if he is not medically capable.
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Baldy wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:28 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:16 am Should have probably nominated someone other than Dr Oz.
For real. Pennsylvania is going to lose either way.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:04 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:00 pm

Well he did have a stroke.

(They take time to recover from…including speech. But they do recover).
Yes, then he shouldn't be running if he is not medically capable.
My mom had a major stroke when she was 41. She returned to work within a few months and continued her career. Her speech was one of the last things to return. She has lingering issues for the rest of her life but it didn’t hamper her job.
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