kalm wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:11 am
SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:52 am
Firstly, they weren't pilfered. He went through the proper process and has the right to keep those documents, as do all past Presidents.
Secondly, what do you believe the documents concern? Pretty obvious they will embarrass all the DOJ/FBI guys you love to protect.
You're going to come out of this looking worse than Jelly as well.
How do you know what’s in the documents? Why doesn’t Trump get to keep classified documents in a SCIF?
1. He doesn't have a SCIF at MAL. It was dismantled after he left office. That's part of the reason the FBI needed to get the documents back so urgently. The FBI knew they weren't being stored properly but couldn't go get the docs at the time; hence they told Trump to put another lock on the door. It was a band-aid until they could get the warrant.Trump delayed that as long as he could so the FBI had to execute a search warrant.
2. Trump DID NOT follow the protocols for having those documents declassified. I have said it before and I will say it again here... They are still classified.
3. Yes he stole the documents. The PRA is free to read. Before someone says Obama, Yes, 33,000 documents were moved to Chicago after his second term. They were placed in the custody of the National Archives in CHI-town for use on a rotational basis in his Presidential Library. He does not posses any of them, personally.
4. He does not have the right to possess these documents, nor do any former presidents. However, all living former presidents can access their presidential records. All former presidents can be read in to classified documents with the permission of the current chief executive. Biden, explicitly deigned this privilege to Trump stating that he was too erratic.
5. If this was and illegal search and a violation of Trumps 4th amendment rights, why isn't he filing a suit for that? It would be much less complicated and a much easier case to win.
6. I am of the opinion the FBI/DOJ just wants everything back in a controlled environment and have no intention of inditing Trump. This explains why they constantly drag their feet and aren't playing hardball.