Kennedy Should Resign

[HI54UNI]

Kennedy should resign


.....

"Today Kennedy is gravely ill with brain cancer, but his political instincts are as sharp as ever. Given his condition, the letter he sent to Massachusetts political leaders last week could not help but generate a fresh wave of sympathy. “I am now writing to you,’’ it reads, “about an issue that concerns me deeply - the continuity of representation for Massachusetts, should a vacancy occur.’’ As a human being, Kennedy is surely grateful for that sympathy. As a canny political navigator, he reckons it may provide the cover needed to change Massachusetts law to benefit his party.

Kennedy wants the Legislature to upend the succession law it passed in 2004, when - at his urging - it stripped away the governor’s longstanding power to temporarily fill a Senate vacancy. Back then, John Kerry was a presidential candidate and Republican Mitt Romney was governor; Kennedy lobbied state Democrats to change the law so that Romney couldn’t name Kerry’s successor."

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Needless to say, Kennedy’s letter says nothing about raw politics. No, it’s all lofty principle and good government. “It is vital for this commonwealth to have two voices speaking for the needs of its citizens and two votes in the Senate during the approximately five months between a vacancy and an election,’’ he writes.

If Kennedy is sincere - if his chief concern is that Massachusetts not be left for months without the services of a full-time senator - then he should do the right thing right now: He should resign.

For well over a year, Massachusetts has not had the “two voices . . . and two votes in the Senate’’ that Kennedy says its voters are entitled to. Sickness has kept him away from Capitol Hill for most of the last 15 months. He has missed all but a handful of the 270 roll-calls taken in the Senate so far this year. Through no fault of his own, he is unable to carry out the job he was reelected to in 2006. As a matter of integrity, he should bow out and allow his constituents to choose a replacement.


http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/edito ... ld_resign/

[AshevilleApp]

Kennedy should resign


.....

"Today Kennedy is gravely ill with brain cancer, but his political instincts are as sharp as ever. Given his condition, the letter he sent to Massachusetts political leaders last week could not help but generate a fresh wave of sympathy. “I am now writing to you,’’ it reads, “about an issue that concerns me deeply - the continuity of representation for Massachusetts, should a vacancy occur.’’ As a human being, Kennedy is surely grateful for that sympathy. As a canny political navigator, he reckons it may provide the cover needed to change Massachusetts law to benefit his party.

Kennedy wants the Legislature to upend the succession law it passed in 2004, when - at his urging - it stripped away the governor’s longstanding power to temporarily fill a Senate vacancy. Back then, John Kerry was a presidential candidate and Republican Mitt Romney was governor; Kennedy lobbied state Democrats to change the law so that Romney couldn’t name Kerry’s successor."

.....

Needless to say, Kennedy’s letter says nothing about raw politics. No, it’s all lofty principle and good government. “It is vital for this commonwealth to have two voices speaking for the needs of its citizens and two votes in the Senate during the approximately five months between a vacancy and an election,’’ he writes.

If Kennedy is sincere - if his chief concern is that Massachusetts not be left for months without the services of a full-time senator - then he should do the right thing right now: He should resign.

For well over a year, Massachusetts has not had the “two voices . . . and two votes in the Senate’’ that Kennedy says its voters are entitled to. Sickness has kept him away from Capitol Hill for most of the last 15 months. He has missed all but a handful of the 270 roll-calls taken in the Senate so far this year. Through no fault of his own, he is unable to carry out the job he was reelected to in 2006. As a matter of integrity, he should bow out and allow his constituents to choose a replacement.


http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/edito ... ld_resign/

Agreed.

[AZGrizFan]

You have GOT to love partisan politics. Played by NOONE better than the Kennedys. WAFJ.

[dbackjon]

Pathetic attempts by Conks to smear a great American.

SMFH

[clenz]

Seems pretty partisan to me.

He doesn't want a Conk to name a replacement, but a Donk to name it....Shit that is ok

[AZGrizFan]

Pathetic attempts by Conks to smear a great American.

SMFH

Pathetic attempt by donks to apply the "great American" label to a murderer, liar, and a cheat. If THAT'S the best you donks can come up with, it's no WONDER you had to wait for the worst Republican president in 30 years to get the White House back.

[Appaholic]

Pathetic attempts by Conks to smear a great American.

SMFH

That's similar to what conks were saying about donks when Jesse Helms was in play.....at least the partisans are consistent in execution though not in principles.....

[HI54UNI]

Pathetic attempts by Conks to smear a great American.

SMFH

Great American?

[Ivytalk]

What's the "over" on the Ted Kennedy deathwatch? I say November 15.

[travelinman67]

...Yup...

...a real stellar American.







Funny how everyone else would've been charged with manslaughter or murder, and sent to prison...



...yet the liberals hail him as a hero.


Speaks volumes.

[travelinman67]

Good stuff...

Spoiler: show

What Really Happened
at Chappaquiddick?

- INTRODUCTION -

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
" Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty? "
~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973

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- Chappaquiddick has been called "the most brilliant cover-up ever achieved in a nation where investigative procedures are well developed and where the principles of equal justice prevail, at least during some of those moments where people are watching."
~ The Last Kennedy by Robert Sherrill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- The mysteries of the case continue to haunt Ted Kennedy as well as the authorities who investigated them. Charges of ineptitude and lack of diligence abounded, as did insinuations that the machinery of justice crumbled beneath the power and prestige of the Kennedy family. George Killen, former State Police Detective-Lieutenant, and chief of a never-revealed investigation, lamented that the failure to bring the case to a satisfactory conclusion was "the biggest mistake" of a long and distinguished police career. Senator Kennedy, he said, "killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger."
~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore



Cape Cod with Martha's Vineyard and Chappaquiddick

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Regatta Weekend - July 1969
( excerpts from Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore )
- Every summer, the Edgartown Yacht Club sponsored the Edgartown Regatta off Martha's Vineyard. The Kennedys had been attending the regatta for years, and their celebrations were the stuff of legend. Their 1966 regatta party had been "riotous," and 1967 equally festive, leaving a rented cottage in shambles. The assassination of Robert Kennedy had kept the family away in 1968, but in the spring of 1969 plans were under way to resume the festivities.

The Lawrence Cottage ~ Chappaquiddick
- Two Kennedy boats, the Resolute and the Victura, were entered in the 1969 races, and Ted Kennedy felt that the weekend's festivities provided the perfect situation to reunite the members of Bobby's campaign staff, affectionately known as the "Boiler Room Girls" because of the tough back room work they did.

Joseph A. Gargan - Joseph Gargan, Ted Kennedy's cousin and lawyer, agreed to make the arrangements. He reserved rooms for the women at the Katama Shores Inn near Edgartown on Martha's Vineyard. Teddy and the other men would be put up at the Shiretown Inn. Gargan also searched for a cottage on the water which would serve as the site for their cookout and party after the races.
- When he discovered that all suitable accommodations on the water in Edgartown had already been taken, Gargan settled on the Lawrence Cottage on the nearby island of Chappaquiddick. This cottage was near the beach, and allowed the party-goers to stay through Sunday. "That's the main reason I rented the place", Gargan said.
- The island, separated from Martha's Vineyard by a narrow channel, was accessible only a ferry which operated between the hours of 7:30 AM and midnight. Gargan's choice of Chappaquiddick as the site for the party would ultimately lead to disaster.

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- Beginning in 1940, a young Joey Gargan had been sent to spend summers in Hyannis Port with his cousin Ted Kennedy. An overweight, good natured 8-year-old, Teddy was delighted with his new playmate. Muscular and athletic, Joey Gargan could take care of himself and, it turned out, Teddy too.
- Used to doing chores, Gargan was handy with tools, something alien to his cousin who couldn't change a tire on a bicycle or use a screwdriver. So resourceful was his cousin, that Teddy came to rely on him, confident that whatever the problem, "Joey'll fix it."
- This relationship would continue into their adult years, and was put to the ultimate test after the accident at Chappaquiddick. For nearly 20 years, Gargan suffered in silence from the wounds inflicted on him by the tragedy that killed Mary Jo Kopechne.

Mary Jo Kopechne



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At the Party: Ted Kennedy: US Senator from Massachusetts and co-host of the party at Chappaquiddick
Joseph A. Gargan: Lawyer, Ted Kennedy's cousin, and co-host of the party
Paul Markham: Lawyer and former US Attorney for Massachusetts
Ray LaRosa: Former fireman and Kennedy campaign worker
Charles Tretter: Lawyer, head of the Boston Redevelopment Commission, and a Kennedy campaign aide
John Crimmins: Senator Kennedy's part-time chauffeur
The Boiler Room Girls: Members of Bobby Kennedy's campaign staff:
Mary Jo Kopechne
Rosemary Keough
Esther Newberg Susan Tannenbaum
Nance Lyons
Mary Ellen Lyons


* Note:
- Senator Kennedy would later explain that his wife Joan did not attend the Regatta weekend because of "health reasons" ( she was pregnant )

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Background: - Following his brother Bobby's death, "a general discouragement with Ted's off-hour antics" was being privately expressed within the Kennedy circle.
~ The Education of Edward Kennedy by Burton Hersh
- Time reported that Ted had been drinking more heavily since his brother's death, and "he has been a different and deeply-troubled man". Those close to Kennedy saw signs of a recklessness at odds with his expanding presidential prospects. Accepting an assignment from Life to cover Ted Kennedy after his brother's assassination, writer Brock Brower concluded that the insecurities, fatalism and fast-living showed Ted was seeking to escape the inevitable candidacy for President. "Some thought his drinking had got beyond the strains it was supposed to relieve," he said.
~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore

- John Lindsay of Newsweek saw "an all too-familiar pattern emerging." Kennedy was slipping out of control toward some unavoidable crackup.


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Senator Kennedy's Driver's License had Expired
- Senator Kennedy's driver's license had expired on February 22, 1969 (nearly 5 months before the accident) and had not been renewed.
- Although driving with an expired license was only a misdemeanor, it did provide the evidence of negligence needed to prove a manslaughter charge in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.
- The license problem was "fixed" by officials at the Registry of Motor Vehicles, under the direction of Registrar Richard McLaughlin, before the legal proceedings began.

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Ted Kennedy's Driving Record:
- Ted Kennedy had a record of serious traffic violations. Their nature formed a pattern of deliberate and repeated negligent operation. Particularly bothersome was a June, 1958 conviction for "reckless driving."
- On March 14, 1958, Deputy Sheriff Thomas Whitten had been on routine highway patrol outside Charlottesville, Virginia, when an Oldsmobile convertible ran a red light, sped off, then cut its tail lights to elude pursuit. A license check revealed the car belonged to Edward M. Kennedy, a 26-year-old law student attending the University of Virginia. Kennedy had previously been fined $15 for speeding in March 1957.
- Whitten was on patrol at the same intersection a week later, he testified, "And here comes the same car. And to my surprise, he did exactly the same thing. He raced through the same red light, cut his lights when he got to the corner and made the right turn." Whitten gave chase. He found the car in a driveway, apparently unoccupied. Looking inside, he discovered the driver, Teddy Kennedy, stretched out on the front seat and hiding. Whitten issued a ticket for "reckless driving; racing with an officer to avoid arrest; and operating a motor vehicle without an operator's license (Mass. registration.)"
- Kennedy's attorneys were able to win numerous postponements, but eventually he was convicted on all charges and paid a $35 fine. Court officials never filed the mandatory notice of the case in the public docket, however, and Kennedy's name had not appeared on any arrest blotter. Instead, a local reporter discovered the case when he spotted 5 warrants in Kennedy's name in a court cash drawer.

- Three weeks after his trial, Ted Kennedy was caught speeding again, and still operating without a valid license.

- In December 1959, Kennedy was stopped again for running a red light and fined $10 and costs. In Whitten's view, "That boy had a heavy foot and a mental block against the color red. He was a careless, reckless driver who didn't seem to have any regard for speed limits or traffic ordinances."


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- The offenses in Virginia had occurred on Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts driver's license, but mysteriously neither the Registry of Motor Vehicles nor the office of probation in Cambridge had any record of the out-of-state convictions. Had it been revealed at the inquest, the Senator's history of negligence and reckless driving would have been further evidence to support a charge of manslaughter in the Chappaquiddick accident.


~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Manslaughter in Massachusetts :
"Any person who wantonly or in a reckless or grossly negligent manner did that which resulted in the death of a human being was guilty of manslaughter, although he did not contemplate such a result." In other words, negligence in exposing another to injury by doing an act, supplied all the intention the law required to make a defendant responsible for the consequences.
- "It's automatic in Massachusetts when a person is killed in an accident for the prosecutor to bring an action for criminal manslaughter." ~ Joseph Gargan

- Less than a week after the accident at Chappaquiddick, the Oregonian (Portland, Oregon ~ 7-24-69 ) reported an accident in Salem, Oregon, in which a car crashed through the chain on a ferry while crossing the Willamette River. A passenger riding in the car had drowned, but the driver escaped from the car and swam to shore. The driver was charged with negligent homicide.


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End of Introduction

[dbackjon]

Death Counts:

Kennedy: 1
Laura Bush: 1
George W. Bush 100,000s of thousands
Reagan: Millions

[UNHWildCats]

You have GOT to love partisan politics. Played by NOONE better than the Kennedys. WAFJ.

Teddy shoulda taken Bush, Rush and AZGriz for a car ride across some bridges.

[UNHWildCats]

Good stuff...

Spoiler: show

What Really Happened
at Chappaquiddick?

- INTRODUCTION -

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
" Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty? "
~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Chappaquiddick has been called "the most brilliant cover-up ever achieved in a nation where investigative procedures are well developed and where the principles of equal justice prevail, at least during some of those moments where people are watching."
~ The Last Kennedy by Robert Sherrill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- The mysteries of the case continue to haunt Ted Kennedy as well as the authorities who investigated them. Charges of ineptitude and lack of diligence abounded, as did insinuations that the machinery of justice crumbled beneath the power and prestige of the Kennedy family. George Killen, former State Police Detective-Lieutenant, and chief of a never-revealed investigation, lamented that the failure to bring the case to a satisfactory conclusion was "the biggest mistake" of a long and distinguished police career. Senator Kennedy, he said, "killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger."
~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore



Cape Cod with Martha's Vineyard and Chappaquiddick

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Regatta Weekend - July 1969
( excerpts from Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore )
- Every summer, the Edgartown Yacht Club sponsored the Edgartown Regatta off Martha's Vineyard. The Kennedys had been attending the regatta for years, and their celebrations were the stuff of legend. Their 1966 regatta party had been "riotous," and 1967 equally festive, leaving a rented cottage in shambles. The assassination of Robert Kennedy had kept the family away in 1968, but in the spring of 1969 plans were under way to resume the festivities.

The Lawrence Cottage ~ Chappaquiddick
- Two Kennedy boats, the Resolute and the Victura, were entered in the 1969 races, and Ted Kennedy felt that the weekend's festivities provided the perfect situation to reunite the members of Bobby's campaign staff, affectionately known as the "Boiler Room Girls" because of the tough back room work they did.

Joseph A. Gargan - Joseph Gargan, Ted Kennedy's cousin and lawyer, agreed to make the arrangements. He reserved rooms for the women at the Katama Shores Inn near Edgartown on Martha's Vineyard. Teddy and the other men would be put up at the Shiretown Inn. Gargan also searched for a cottage on the water which would serve as the site for their cookout and party after the races.
- When he discovered that all suitable accommodations on the water in Edgartown had already been taken, Gargan settled on the Lawrence Cottage on the nearby island of Chappaquiddick. This cottage was near the beach, and allowed the party-goers to stay through Sunday. "That's the main reason I rented the place", Gargan said.
- The island, separated from Martha's Vineyard by a narrow channel, was accessible only a ferry which operated between the hours of 7:30 AM and midnight. Gargan's choice of Chappaquiddick as the site for the party would ultimately lead to disaster.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Beginning in 1940, a young Joey Gargan had been sent to spend summers in Hyannis Port with his cousin Ted Kennedy. An overweight, good natured 8-year-old, Teddy was delighted with his new playmate. Muscular and athletic, Joey Gargan could take care of himself and, it turned out, Teddy too.
- Used to doing chores, Gargan was handy with tools, something alien to his cousin who couldn't change a tire on a bicycle or use a screwdriver. So resourceful was his cousin, that Teddy came to rely on him, confident that whatever the problem, "Joey'll fix it."
- This relationship would continue into their adult years, and was put to the ultimate test after the accident at Chappaquiddick. For nearly 20 years, Gargan suffered in silence from the wounds inflicted on him by the tragedy that killed Mary Jo Kopechne.

Mary Jo Kopechne



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
At the Party: Ted Kennedy: US Senator from Massachusetts and co-host of the party at Chappaquiddick
Joseph A. Gargan: Lawyer, Ted Kennedy's cousin, and co-host of the party
Paul Markham: Lawyer and former US Attorney for Massachusetts
Ray LaRosa: Former fireman and Kennedy campaign worker
Charles Tretter: Lawyer, head of the Boston Redevelopment Commission, and a Kennedy campaign aide
John Crimmins: Senator Kennedy's part-time chauffeur
The Boiler Room Girls: Members of Bobby Kennedy's campaign staff:
Mary Jo Kopechne
Rosemary Keough
Esther Newberg Susan Tannenbaum
Nance Lyons
Mary Ellen Lyons


* Note:
- Senator Kennedy would later explain that his wife Joan did not attend the Regatta weekend because of "health reasons" ( she was pregnant )

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Background: - Following his brother Bobby's death, "a general discouragement with Ted's off-hour antics" was being privately expressed within the Kennedy circle.
~ The Education of Edward Kennedy by Burton Hersh
- Time reported that Ted had been drinking more heavily since his brother's death, and "he has been a different and deeply-troubled man". Those close to Kennedy saw signs of a recklessness at odds with his expanding presidential prospects. Accepting an assignment from Life to cover Ted Kennedy after his brother's assassination, writer Brock Brower concluded that the insecurities, fatalism and fast-living showed Ted was seeking to escape the inevitable candidacy for President. "Some thought his drinking had got beyond the strains it was supposed to relieve," he said.
~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore

- John Lindsay of Newsweek saw "an all too-familiar pattern emerging." Kennedy was slipping out of control toward some unavoidable crackup.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Senator Kennedy's Driver's License had Expired
- Senator Kennedy's driver's license had expired on February 22, 1969 (nearly 5 months before the accident) and had not been renewed.
- Although driving with an expired license was only a misdemeanor, it did provide the evidence of negligence needed to prove a manslaughter charge in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.
- The license problem was "fixed" by officials at the Registry of Motor Vehicles, under the direction of Registrar Richard McLaughlin, before the legal proceedings began.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted Kennedy's Driving Record:
- Ted Kennedy had a record of serious traffic violations. Their nature formed a pattern of deliberate and repeated negligent operation. Particularly bothersome was a June, 1958 conviction for "reckless driving."
- On March 14, 1958, Deputy Sheriff Thomas Whitten had been on routine highway patrol outside Charlottesville, Virginia, when an Oldsmobile convertible ran a red light, sped off, then cut its tail lights to elude pursuit. A license check revealed the car belonged to Edward M. Kennedy, a 26-year-old law student attending the University of Virginia. Kennedy had previously been fined $15 for speeding in March 1957.
- Whitten was on patrol at the same intersection a week later, he testified, "And here comes the same car. And to my surprise, he did exactly the same thing. He raced through the same red light, cut his lights when he got to the corner and made the right turn." Whitten gave chase. He found the car in a driveway, apparently unoccupied. Looking inside, he discovered the driver, Teddy Kennedy, stretched out on the front seat and hiding. Whitten issued a ticket for "reckless driving; racing with an officer to avoid arrest; and operating a motor vehicle without an operator's license (Mass. registration.)"
- Kennedy's attorneys were able to win numerous postponements, but eventually he was convicted on all charges and paid a $35 fine. Court officials never filed the mandatory notice of the case in the public docket, however, and Kennedy's name had not appeared on any arrest blotter. Instead, a local reporter discovered the case when he spotted 5 warrants in Kennedy's name in a court cash drawer.

- Three weeks after his trial, Ted Kennedy was caught speeding again, and still operating without a valid license.

- In December 1959, Kennedy was stopped again for running a red light and fined $10 and costs. In Whitten's view, "That boy had a heavy foot and a mental block against the color red. He was a careless, reckless driver who didn't seem to have any regard for speed limits or traffic ordinances."


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- The offenses in Virginia had occurred on Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts driver's license, but mysteriously neither the Registry of Motor Vehicles nor the office of probation in Cambridge had any record of the out-of-state convictions. Had it been revealed at the inquest, the Senator's history of negligence and reckless driving would have been further evidence to support a charge of manslaughter in the Chappaquiddick accident.


~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Manslaughter in Massachusetts :
"Any person who wantonly or in a reckless or grossly negligent manner did that which resulted in the death of a human being was guilty of manslaughter, although he did not contemplate such a result." In other words, negligence in exposing another to injury by doing an act, supplied all the intention the law required to make a defendant responsible for the consequences.
- "It's automatic in Massachusetts when a person is killed in an accident for the prosecutor to bring an action for criminal manslaughter." ~ Joseph Gargan

- Less than a week after the accident at Chappaquiddick, the Oregonian (Portland, Oregon ~ 7-24-69 ) reported an accident in Salem, Oregon, in which a car crashed through the chain on a ferry while crossing the Willamette River. A passenger riding in the car had drowned, but the driver escaped from the car and swam to shore. The driver was charged with negligent homicide.


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End of Introduction

Im generally very much for gun control... the less guns the better... but then everytime I read something by you I just wish everyone would use their guns on you.

[HI54UNI]

Good stuff...

Spoiler: show

Im generally very much for gun control... the less guns the better... but then everytime I read something by you I just wish everyone would use their guns on you.

More tolerance from the left.

[UNI88]

Death Counts:

Kennedy: 1
Laura Bush: 1
George W. Bush 100,000s of thousands
Reagan: Millions

Might be a little thick this morning but I don't quite understand how Reagan is responsible for millions of deaths.

And if GWB is responsible for 100,000's of thousands (which is also millions) than it would only be fair to assign responsibility for the deaths in southeast Asia to JFK/LBJ, bastions of liberal thought & idolatry.

[clenz]

Death Counts:

Kennedy: 1
Laura Bush: 1
George W. Bush 100,000s of thousands
Reagan: Millions

So because he only killed one man he shouldn't be in jail, but instead idolized?

[Appaholic]

[bandl]

Good stuff...

Spoiler: show

Im generally very much for gun control... the less guns the better... but then everytime I read something by you I just wish everyone would use their guns on you.

Funny, by that logic I would venture to say that most people here would say they want the same for you....

[AZGrizFan]

You have GOT to love partisan politics. Played by NOONE better than the Kennedys. WAFJ.

Teddy shoulda taken Bush, Rush and AZGriz for a car ride across some bridges.

Never let facts get in the way of a good argument.

You're a proven idiot, UNH.

[AZGrizFan]

Death Counts:

Kennedy: 1
Laura Bush: 1
George W. Bush 100,000s of thousands
Reagan: Millions

Might be a little thick this morning but I don't quite understand how Reagan is responsible for millions of deaths.

And if GWB is responsible for 100,000's of thousands (which is also millions) than it would only be fair to assign responsibility for the deaths in southeast Asia to JFK/LBJ, bastions of liberal thought & idolatry.

It's because dbackjon SAYS it is. That's all you need to know.

[death dealer]

I guess this thread is sort of unneccessary now, eh?

[Wedgebuster]

Yeah, he resigned.

[AshevilleApp]

RIP

[wildkyle]

I didn't like his politics but even I'm sad he died.