Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:54 am
I can work with your correction but disagree on the need for the regulatory state to grow. I see just as much corruption in that as the companies they are supposedly to have oversight on (Banking is the most recent example and the EPA has been caught taking multiple shortcuts, which are against their charter, in the recent years). Who is going to watch the watchers then? Corruption doesn't just take a day off because it runs across a bureaucrat. As a small business owner (or former owner) you can appreciate efficiency I hope. When there is no to limited oversight (as in the EPA, CARB, etc) what is to keep them from acting in their own self interests? (which is very business like, IMHO)
I am not arguing for elimination of oversight, I am advocating for more efficient oversight, oversight that is accountable, and oversight that fits the particular case, not more growth. There is current work I am doing on where the proposed regulations are so low, that they are beyond the means to measure (i.e. there is NO instrument that exists to measure those values in a repeatable manner) and companies are supposed to comply with that. How? And the consequences of none-compliance can be millions of dollars a day depending on the product. That is to say nothing of their proposed rulemaking was based on a study in a different area that was applied to a completely different use case. The authority for this came under the Obama reign.
His "facts" (and I use the term very, very loosely) are confined to particular activity (i.e. Eisenhower started x) but why I called him an idiot and said that you two are peas in a pod (
) is because of his "analysis". Outside of the facts above, the rest is his opinion and poorly reasoned opinion at that, IMHO. Like you noted, Hartmann has an axe to grid, just like your posts and mine, my axe is to look at the past and see what it has gotten us, something Harmann and yourself like to pick and choose over to fit your agenda. I take a more holistic approach.
Biden will wind up costing us Billions more if we are lucky. Unlucky, well let me ask you this. How well do you like your AC system? Or stain resistant carpet? UV resistant plastics or other materials? Like your plastic tooth brush or bristles? IV lines? etc.
Now some (all of the above I listed but others will not) will get exemptions but that goes to my point in the previous post. We are going from a state of have permission to asking for permission due to chemicals that should have never been regulated in this manner. For reference, in my example, 3/4 of the U.S. economy runs on derivations of these chemicals of which some have been used for over 50 years and have a good provenance.
BTW: I am in fact calling your particular political philosophy idiotic in the nicest most well meaning way with a smile. Not saying you do not have good points (you have many), just that your proposed implementation is doomed to failure.
