The Ukraine Crisis

[houndawg]

Russia's full scale version is much more integrated, just like how the F16 integrates with other systems. They are a part of a bigger whole. Russia is not using that whole capability, just SMO parts. Putin needs governmental approval to go full nuts.

Houndys fat.

Does the full scale system integration work as well as their super missiles not getting shot down?

The government does what putin tells it to do until they get sick of this war and put him out of their misery.

trump is fat. I picture Houndy as a skinny weed smoking flower child.

A weed-smoking svelte 220 on a willowy 5'10" frame.

I'm a hard hitter.

[UNI88]

After a year of fighting in Ukraine, the brutal logic behind Russia's 'human wave' attacks is becoming clear

The life expectancy of a Russian infantryman may depend on a simple question: What kind of infantry is he? Those used as cannon fodder are probably not long for this world, but those assigned to more valued formations may get the training and equipment needed to stay alive.

After the February 2022 invasion, Russian commanders watched their battalion tactical groups — supposedly integrated formations of tanks, artillery, and infantry — flounder due to poor tactics that made Western-style combined-arms warfare infeasible.

So Russia's military reverted to an informal system from the Red Army's playbook: create multiple classes of riflemen, ranging from the most valuable to the most expendable. It now uses four types of infantry — specialized, assault, line, and disposable — according to a recent report by the Royal United Services Institute, a British think tank.
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An army that can afford such a cynical use of troops either has enough manpower to waste — which demographically challenged Russia does not — or is desperate because its forces have proven too ineffective for anything else.

[houndawg]

After a year of fighting in Ukraine, the brutal logic behind Russia's 'human wave' attacks is becoming clear

The life expectancy of a Russian infantryman may depend on a simple question: What kind of infantry is he? Those used as cannon fodder are probably not long for this world, but those assigned to more valued formations may get the training and equipment needed to stay alive.

After the February 2022 invasion, Russian commanders watched their battalion tactical groups — supposedly integrated formations of tanks, artillery, and infantry — flounder due to poor tactics that made Western-style combined-arms warfare infeasible.

So Russia's military reverted to an informal system from the Red Army's playbook: create multiple classes of riflemen, ranging from the most valuable to the most expendable. It now uses four types of infantry — specialized, assault, line, and disposable — according to a recent report by the Royal United Services Institute, a British think tank.
...
An army that can afford such a cynical use of troops either has enough manpower to waste — which demographically challenged Russia does not — or is desperate because its forces have proven too ineffective for anything else.

They're ineffective because they're more interested collecting their pay than dying for their country in a foreign land

[kalm]

[houndawg]

After a year of fighting in Ukraine, the brutal logic behind Russia's 'human wave' attacks is becoming clear

The life expectancy of a Russian infantryman may depend on a simple question: What kind of infantry is he? Those used as cannon fodder are probably not long for this world, but those assigned to more valued formations may get the training and equipment needed to stay alive.

After the February 2022 invasion, Russian commanders watched their battalion tactical groups — supposedly integrated formations of tanks, artillery, and infantry — flounder due to poor tactics that made Western-style combined-arms warfare infeasible.

So Russia's military reverted to an informal system from the Red Army's playbook: create multiple classes of riflemen, ranging from the most valuable to the most expendable. It now uses four types of infantry — specialized, assault, line, and disposable — according to a recent report by the Royal United Services Institute, a British think tank.
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An army that can afford such a cynical use of troops either has enough manpower to waste — which demographically challenged Russia does not — or is desperate because its forces have proven too ineffective for anything else.

They will fight to the last conscripted prisoner.

[SeattleGriz]

After a year of fighting in Ukraine, the brutal logic behind Russia's 'human wave' attacks is becoming clear

They will fight to the last conscripted prisoner.

Uh huh. You and SilentO are hilarious in your weak trolling and/or lack of knowledge.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad ... ssias-way/

As a result, Ukraine has lost literally tens of thousands of killed and wounded, along with enormous quantities of equipment and ammunition, in those four city fights. Based on a likely fire superiority of 10-to-1 on the Russian side, Ukraine no doubt suffered considerably more casualties in those fights than the Russians. But even if the cost were equal, Russia has millions more men from whom to draw more fighters and a major domestic industrial capacity to produce all the ammunition they may require.

Put simply, Ukraine doesn’t have the personnel or industrial capacity to replace their lost men and equipment in comparison to the Russians. Moreover, Russia has been learning from its many tactical mistakes and evidence suggests they are improving tactically while simultaneously expanding their industrial capacity. Even bigger than the dearth of ammunition and equipment for Ukraine, however, is the number of trained and experienced personnel they’ve lost. Many of those skilled troops and leaders simply cannot be replaced in the span of mere months.

[bobbythekidd]

Russians have blown up the Nova Khakova bridge. This is yet another rest crime and one that has caused massive destruction in the region. It is an effort to prevent Ukrainian advancement. It won't prevent that, just delay it. Moreover, it cuts off water supply to Crimea.

The Russians are desperate.

[BDKJMU]

Russians have blown up the Nova Khakova bridge. This is yet another rest crime and one that has caused massive destruction in the region. It is an effort to prevent Ukrainian advancement. It won't prevent that, just delay it. Moreover, it cuts off water supply to Crimea.

The Russians are desperate.

Russians are claiming Ukraine blew it up, and vice versa. Sounds like a he said/she said. We don’t know yet who blew it up.

….Ukraine accused Russian forces of blowing up the dam and hydroelectric power station, while Russian officials blamed Ukrainian military strikes in the contested area.

The fallout could have far-reaching consequences: flooding homes, streets and businesses downstream; depleting water levels upstream that help cool Europe’s largest nuclear power plant; and draining supplies of drinking water to the south in Crimea, which Russia illegally annexed…..

It was not immediately clear whether either side benefits from the damage to the dam, since both Russian-controlled and Ukrainian-held lands are at risk of flooding. The damage could also potentially hinder Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the south, while at the same time Russia depends on the dam to supply water to the Crimea region it annexed illegally in 2014...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russi ... d/1122512/

[bobbythekidd]

Russians have blown up the Nova Khakova bridge. This is yet another rest crime and one that has caused massive destruction in the region. It is an effort to prevent Ukrainian advancement. It won't prevent that, just delay it. Moreover, it cuts off water supply to Crimea.

The Russians are desperate.

Russians are claiming Ukraine blew it up, and vice versa. Sounds like a he said/she said. We don’t know yet who blew it up.

….Ukraine accused Russian forces of blowing up the dam and hydroelectric power station, while Russian officials blamed Ukrainian military strikes in the contested area.

The fallout could have far-reaching consequences: flooding homes, streets and businesses downstream; depleting water levels upstream that help cool Europe’s largest nuclear power plant; and draining supplies of drinking water to the south in Crimea, which Russia illegally annexed…..

It was not immediately clear whether either side benefits from the damage to the dam, since both Russian-controlled and Ukrainian-held lands are at risk of flooding. The damage could also potentially hinder Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the south, while at the same time Russia depends on the dam to supply water to the Crimea region it annexed illegally in 2014...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russi ... d/1122512/

That's fine. I'm willing to wait it out until the culprit is determined. Either way this is a huge event that has short and long term consequences. It will be years before that region is restored.

[Skjellyfetti]

Yeah, it's another event that no side really benefits greatly from.

It will make it harder to conduct an offensive in the area. Maybe Russia did it? The right bank controlled by Ukraine has higher banks - the left bank controlled by Russia is mostly what is getting flooded. Maybe Ukraine did it?

If Ukraine did do it - would have been way smarter to do it when Russia was trapped in Kherson and trying to retreat across the river.

If Russia did it - it seems like pretty good timing as they can deploy a good amount of troops from the area to the NE where the main thrust of the counterattack would be more likely.

[UNI88]

They will fight to the last conscripted prisoner.

Uh huh. You and SilentO are hilarious in your weak trolling and/or lack of knowledge.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad ... ssias-way/

As a result, Ukraine has lost literally tens of thousands of killed and wounded, along with enormous quantities of equipment and ammunition, in those four city fights. Based on a likely fire superiority of 10-to-1 on the Russian side, Ukraine no doubt suffered considerably more casualties in those fights than the Russians. But even if the cost were equal, Russia has millions more men from whom to draw more fighters and a major domestic industrial capacity to produce all the ammunition they may require.

Put simply, Ukraine doesn’t have the personnel or industrial capacity to replace their lost men and equipment in comparison to the Russians. Moreover, Russia has been learning from its many tactical mistakes and evidence suggests they are improving tactically while simultaneously expanding their industrial capacity. Even bigger than the dearth of ammunition and equipment for Ukraine, however, is the number of trained and experienced personnel they’ve lost. Many of those skilled troops and leaders simply cannot be replaced in the span of mere months.

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, who spent months on the ground in Bakhmut, said the
Kremlin's claims about inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine are 'wild and absurd science fiction'

[kalm]

They will fight to the last conscripted prisoner.

Uh huh. You and SilentO are hilarious in your weak trolling and/or lack of knowledge.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad ... ssias-way/

As a result, Ukraine has lost literally tens of thousands of killed and wounded, along with enormous quantities of equipment and ammunition, in those four city fights. Based on a likely fire superiority of 10-to-1 on the Russian side, Ukraine no doubt suffered considerably more casualties in those fights than the Russians. But even if the cost were equal, Russia has millions more men from whom to draw more fighters and a major domestic industrial capacity to produce all the ammunition they may require.

Put simply, Ukraine doesn’t have the personnel or industrial capacity to replace their lost men and equipment in comparison to the Russians. Moreover, Russia has been learning from its many tactical mistakes and evidence suggests they are improving tactically while simultaneously expanding their industrial capacity. Even bigger than the dearth of ammunition and equipment for Ukraine, however, is the number of trained and experienced personnel they’ve lost. Many of those skilled troops and leaders simply cannot be replaced in the span of mere months.

Why haven’t the Russians used that industrial capacity to its fullest extent?

[houndawg]

Uh huh. You and SilentO are hilarious in your weak trolling and/or lack of knowledge.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad ... ssias-way/

Why haven’t the Russians used that industrial capacity to its fullest extent?

You'd think that with the advantages mentioned Russia would have wapped this up a year ago.

[SeattleGriz]

Uh huh. You and SilentO are hilarious in your weak trolling and/or lack of knowledge.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad ... ssias-way/

Why haven’t the Russians used that industrial capacity to its fullest extent?

How are they not? Been explained to you multiple times.

[SeattleGriz]

Uh huh. You and SilentO are hilarious in your weak trolling and/or lack of knowledge.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad ... ssias-way/

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, who spent months on the ground in Bakhmut, said the
Kremlin's claims about inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine are 'wild and absurd science fiction'

Oh, now Putin is a reasonable man and puts up with insubordination? Which is it? You can't keep flip flopping.

[houndawg]

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, who spent months on the ground in Bakhmut, said the
Kremlin's claims about inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine are 'wild and absurd science fiction'

Oh, now Putin is a reasonable man and puts up with insubordination? Which is it? You can't keep flip flopping.

You have a different source?

[kalm]

Why haven’t the Russians used that industrial capacity to its fullest extent?

How are they not? Been explained to you multiple times.

So they’ve fully used yet are having a difficult time even protecting their own borders?

Might want to rethink that reply.

[SeattleGriz]

How are they not? Been explained to you multiple times.

So they’ve fully used yet are having a difficult time even protecting their own borders?

Might want to rethink that reply.

I tell you what I tell my kids. Never try to make yourself look bad. Willfully misconstruing again.

[SeattleGriz]

Oh, now Putin is a reasonable man and puts up with insubordination? Which is it? You can't keep flip flopping.

You have a different source?

You too. Now you're saying Putin is allowing dissent? Thought he was a ruthless dictator?

C'mon man! You're not even trying, just posting nonsense. Klam at least acts like he doesn't understand.

[SeattleGriz]

https://news.yahoo.com/nazi-symbols-ukr ... 25778.html

I thought this was all made up. Now the NYT admits the Nazi influence although they try to write it off as "symbolizing Ukrainian sovereignty and pride, not Nazism".

Oh.

Ukraine has worked for years through legislation and military restructuring to contain a fringe far-right movement whose members proudly wear symbols steeped in Nazi history and espouse views hostile to leftists, LGBTQ movements and ethnic minorities. But some members of these groups have been fighting Russia since the Kremlin illegally annexed part of the Crimea region of Ukraine in 2014 and are now part of the broader military structure. Some are regarded as national heroes, even as the far-right remains marginalized politically

[SeattleGriz]

Huh. Wonder who blew up that dam.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221229064 ... n-donetsk/

Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.

The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off.

[kalm]

So they’ve fully used yet are having a difficult time even protecting their own borders?

Might want to rethink that reply.

I tell you what I tell my kids. Never try to make yourself look bad. Willfully misconstruing again.

That’s sound advice.

[UNI88]

You have a different source?

You too. Now you're saying Putin is allowing dissent? Thought he was a ruthless dictator?

C'mon man! You're not even trying, just posting nonsense. Klam at least acts like he doesn't understand.

I think Putin isn't happy with the defense ministry so he allows the Wagner Nazis to criticize them. If they're fighting with each other they can't be plotting to overthrow him (yet).

[SeattleGriz]

You too. Now you're saying Putin is allowing dissent? Thought he was a ruthless dictator?

C'mon man! You're not even trying, just posting nonsense. Klam at least acts like he doesn't understand.

I think Putin isn't happy with the defense ministry so he allows the Wagner Nazis to criticize them. If they're fighting with each other they can't be plotting to overthrow him (yet).

Outside of overthrowing, that's actually not a bad thought. Pit two different groups against each other to boost performance.

[houndawg]

You have a different source?

You too. Now you're saying Putin is allowing dissent? Thought he was a ruthless dictator?

C'mon man! You're not even trying, just posting nonsense. Klam at least acts like he doesn't understand.

What a fucking halfwitted attempt at analogy - I think all that bike riding was just too much time in oxygen debt

Putin isn't allowing dissent, there's nothing he can do about it. You been sloppin his knob so long that you still think Russia is a super power and not a second-rate second-world wannabe getting their asses handed to them by a smaller neighbor using mostly their (Russia's) own Warsaw pact era Soviet gear. You're getting desperate and becoming unable to disguise your increasing peevishness at the difference between your apologia Putinus and the facts. This is the moment, SGwizz, our enemy is weak and overrated and the time is perfect for some payback that's long overdue and we need to make it a lesson on what happens when you fuck with a superpower that the Chinese can't ignore. We'll deal with them later.