Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

[SeattleGriz]

Exactly. And that's another reason I won't listen to Guilfoyle. You're purposeful misconstruing coupled with her annoying voice are simply too much.

Right. But you totally agree with her post.

Of course!

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

[kalm]

Meanwhile…it’s truly fascinating that Glenn fails to include Fox here. I suppose they’re not corporate media? Or perhaps propaganda is a two way street?

[houndawg]

the FBI has been abusing its power since the day it opened shop but now its a big deal...

[houndawg]

Meanwhile…it’s truly fascinating that Glenn fails to include Fox here. I suppose they’re not corporate media? Or perhaps propaganda is a two way street?

They're entertainment; by their own admission you can't take seriously anything they say.

[SeattleGriz]

Meanwhile…it’s truly fascinating that Glenn fails to include Fox here. I suppose they’re not corporate media? Or perhaps propaganda is a two way street?

Fox isn't included because they were right.

It's truly fascinating you went there. Let's not talk the merits...

[kalm]

Meanwhile…it’s truly fascinating that Glenn fails to include Fox here. I suppose they’re not corporate media? Or perhaps propaganda is a two way street?

Fox isn't included because they were right.

It's truly fascinating you went there. Let's not talk the merits...

Oh please…go ahead. Let’s talk the merits of left and right propaganda.

[SeattleGriz]

Fox isn't included because they were right.

It's truly fascinating you went there. Let's not talk the merits...

Oh please…go ahead. Let’s talk the merits of left and right propaganda.

Fox may be propaganda, but they were correct in this propaganda.

[kalm]

Oh please…go ahead. Let’s talk the merits of left and right propaganda.

Fox may be propaganda, but they were correct in this propaganda.

Interesting. I thought it was a Greenwald tweet?

[BDKJMU]

-Elements within the FBI took part in attempting to subvert an election in 2016, and then an attempted coup by lawfare of a sitting POTUS in 2017 with their fake Trump Russia collusion hoax (see spying on the Trump campaign, lying on FISA warrant applications, Crossfire Hurricane, the Steele Dossier, etc).

-Elements within the FBI attempted to affect the outcome of the 2020 election by colluding with Big Tech and the MSM to suppress Hunter’s laptop. They knew it was real but were saying the opposite to Big Tech and the MSM.

-The FBI has been illegally surveilling Americans for years now with millions of warrantless searches.

-In 2021 the FBI opemed ip multiple domestic terrorism investigations on parents complaining at local school board meetings.

-Their treatment of whistleblowers.

The list goes on. The FBI has become hyper political, and rotten to the core.

Yes…well that’s exactly the explanation that Joe Walsh is speaking to here.

And more govt (US intel agency) corruption

U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Personal Data, U.S. Says

The report was commissioned by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines after Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) requested that the intelligence community detail and make public how it uses commercially available data. Ms. Haines agreed to the request during her 2021 confirmation hearing. The report was completed in January 2022; it was released to the public last week.

It represents the first known attempt by the U.S. government to examine comprehensively how federal agencies acquire, share and use commercially available data sets that are often compiled with minimal awareness by the public that its data is being collected and resold.

A series of articles in The Wall Street Journal has revealed that U.S. intelligence agencies, military units and federal law enforcement agencies buy and sell highly-revealing personal information on Americans…

….“If the government can buy its way around Fourth Amendment due-process, there will be few meaningful limits on government surveillance,” Wyden said in a statement, referring to the U.S. Constitution’s protections against “unreasonable searches and seizures.”……

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-ag ... s-f47ec3ad

There should be bipartisan outrage over this, and the process should be banned.

[kalm]

Yes…well that’s exactly the explanation that Joe Walsh is speaking to here.

And more govt (US intel agency) corruption

U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Personal Data, U.S. Says

The report was commissioned by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines after Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) requested that the intelligence community detail and make public how it uses commercially available data. Ms. Haines agreed to the request during her 2021 confirmation hearing. The report was completed in January 2022; it was released to the public last week.

It represents the first known attempt by the U.S. government to examine comprehensively how federal agencies acquire, share and use commercially available data sets that are often compiled with minimal awareness by the public that its data is being collected and resold.

A series of articles in The Wall Street Journal has revealed that U.S. intelligence agencies, military units and federal law enforcement agencies buy and sell highly-revealing personal information on Americans…

….“If the government can buy its way around Fourth Amendment due-process, there will be few meaningful limits on government surveillance,” Wyden said in a statement, referring to the U.S. Constitution’s protections against “unreasonable searches and seizures.”……

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-ag ... s-f47ec3ad

There should be bipartisan outrage over this, and the process should be banned.

Son, I’ve been saying this and arguing it on here going way back.

We need to limit the power of both government and corporations. The establishment from both parties stands in the way.

[SeattleGriz]

Bidens taking bribes to get rid of Shokin and then Joe brags about it. Jelly says Shokin was crooked.

[kalm]

I guess it wasn’t a hoax after all.

[GannonFan]

I guess it wasn’t a hoax after all.

Has anyone really said that the Russian government, or parts of that government, didn't try to interfere in the election? Heck, I assume they, like us, try to interfere in every election, and have been doing so since at least 1917.

The issue and the topic of this thread, however, was whether there was active involvement by the candidates in the 2016 election with the Russians in an attempt to help them interfere with the election and to use them to help themselves win. But hey, details, I get it.

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

If you get Durham’s reference

[kalm]

I guess it wasn’t a hoax after all.

Has anyone really said that the Russian government, or parts of that government, didn't try to interfere in the election? Heck, I assume they, like us, try to interfere in every election, and have been doing so since at least 1917.

The issue and the topic of this thread, however, was whether there was active involvement by the candidates in the 2016 election with the Russians in an attempt to help them interfere with the election and to use them to help themselves win. But hey, details, I get it.

Oh. I thought it was about collusion.

“The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,” Mueller told the House judiciary committee, adding that Trump could theoretically be indicted after he leaves office.

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

- Robert Mueller

[GannonFan]

Has anyone really said that the Russian government, or parts of that government, didn't try to interfere in the election? Heck, I assume they, like us, try to interfere in every election, and have been doing so since at least 1917.

The issue and the topic of this thread, however, was whether there was active involvement by the candidates in the 2016 election with the Russians in an attempt to help them interfere with the election and to use them to help themselves win. But hey, details, I get it.

Oh. I thought it was about collusion.

“The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,” Mueller told the House judiciary committee, adding that Trump could theoretically be indicted after he leaves office.

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

- Robert Mueller

Running in circles, like you're apt to do. So no collusion, because it's not a legal term, and no conspiracy. From Mueller himself. And Durham's investigation showed about the same thing, albeit with the FBI running to and fro with information they knew was flimsy at best trying to find a conspiracy somewhere. In the end, the Russians didn't even have to do very much, we managed to make this a disaster all by ourselves.

[BDKJMU]

Shifty Schiff and Rep High Pants are lying POS:

[UNI88]

Shifty Schiff and Rep High Pants are lying POS:

I cannot keep track of when lying is bad and when it's acceptable. Is there some sort of guide?

[CID1990]

Klam… I covered this in nauseating detail, numerous times, in this very thread. That you want to re-litigate it is fitting in the spirit of Jacobins (like you) who prefer to ignore or re-write history.

[kalm]

Klam… I covered this in nauseating detail, numerous times, in this very thread. That you want to re-litigate it is fitting in the spirit of Jacobins (like you) who prefer to ignore or re-write history.

Well shit…you’re on to me. I was in the late stages of plotting the overthrow too.

Darn!

[houndawg]

Yes…well that’s exactly the explanation that Joe Walsh is speaking to here.

And more govt (US intel agency) corruption

U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Personal Data, U.S. Says

The report was commissioned by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines after Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) requested that the intelligence community detail and make public how it uses commercially available data. Ms. Haines agreed to the request during her 2021 confirmation hearing. The report was completed in January 2022; it was released to the public last week.

It represents the first known attempt by the U.S. government to examine comprehensively how federal agencies acquire, share and use commercially available data sets that are often compiled with minimal awareness by the public that its data is being collected and resold.

A series of articles in The Wall Street Journal has revealed that U.S. intelligence agencies, military units and federal law enforcement agencies buy and sell highly-revealing personal information on Americans…

….“If the government can buy its way around Fourth Amendment due-process, there will be few meaningful limits on government surveillance,” Wyden said in a statement, referring to the U.S. Constitution’s protections against “unreasonable searches and seizures.”……

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-ag ... s-f47ec3ad

There should be bipartisan outrage over this, and the process should be banned.

Stop the Presses! Water is wet!