Trump's Secret Documents. The World awaits.

[UNI88]

Belongs in both threads (here and trump gaffes).

[houndawg]

Belongs in both threads (here and trump gaffes).

He's fucked and he knows it.

[GannonFan]

Belongs in both threads (here and trump gaffes).

He's fucked and he knows it.

Indeed. His best bet now is to try to delay this as much as possible until he leaves this Earth. He's not a young man, and he's very adroit at stretching out legal proceedings, so it's certainly possible. And all he had to do was just give the boxes back (or even just say here, take them). What a self-inflicted fiasco.

[BDKJMU]

He's fucked and he knows it.

Indeed. His best bet now is to try to delay this as much as possible until he leaves this Earth. He's not a young man, and he's very adroit at stretching out legal proceedings, so it's certainly possible. And all he had to do was just give the boxes back (or even just say here, take them). What a self-inflicted fiasco.

No he’s not.
-If there’s conk in the WH in 25’ he’s pardoned.
-If there’s a donk in the WH in 25’ there’s still a good chance in S FL of a hung jury or an aquittal.

[kalm]

Indeed. His best bet now is to try to delay this as much as possible until he leaves this Earth. He's not a young man, and he's very adroit at stretching out legal proceedings, so it's certainly possible. And all he had to do was just give the boxes back (or even just say here, take them). What a self-inflicted fiasco.

No he’s not.
-If there’s conk in the WH in 25’ he’s pardoned.
-If there’s a donk in the WH in 25’ there’s still a good chance in S FL of a hung jury or an aquittal.

No federal pardon for state convictions.
The j6 investigation is still out there waiting.

Unless it’s a MAGA president or governor, there’s going to be pressure to not pardon.

[GannonFan]

No he’s not.
-If there’s conk in the WH in 25’ he’s pardoned.
-If there’s a donk in the WH in 25’ there’s still a good chance in S FL of a hung jury or an aquittal.

No federal pardon for state convictions.
The j6 investigation is still out there waiting.

Unless it’s a MAGA president or governor, there’s going to be pressure to not pardon.

Which one is the state one, is that NY? That's a weak case, and probably wouldn't have even been brought to where it is if it wasn't Trump involved. And yes, the Jan 6th thing is still out there. However, waiting too long to bring that case to trial will weaken it too. We've known so much of his involvement in it for quite some time now (as I said when it happened, Trump did most of it out in the open, it's not like it was some closely guarded secret). Heck, I thought we had more than enough to impeach and remove and likely would've done that had the Dems not soured the well on impeachment with their poorly thought out and executed first attempt to remove him.

But yes, it depends on who gets elected in 2024 - there's no guarantee that a pro-Trump person is going to be elected. By then they might be just willing to let Trump take his chances with a trial.

[kalm]

No federal pardon for state convictions.
The j6 investigation is still out there waiting.

Unless it’s a MAGA president or governor, there’s going to be pressure to not pardon.

Which one is the state one, is that NY? That's a weak case, and probably wouldn't have even been brought to where it is if it wasn't Trump involved. And yes, the Jan 6th thing is still out there. However, waiting too long to bring that case to trial will weaken it too. We've known so much of his involvement in it for quite some time now (as I said when it happened, Trump did most of it out in the open, it's not like it was some closely guarded secret). Heck, I thought we had more than enough to impeach and remove and likely would've done that had the Dems not soured the well on impeachment with their poorly thought out and executed first attempt to remove him.

But yes, it depends on who gets elected in 2024 - there's no guarantee that a pro-Trump person is going to be elected. By then they might be just willing to let Trump take his chances with a trial.

Georgia seems more legit.

Agreed on the J6. Garland and the DoJ dragged their feet.

[UNI88]

Indeed. His best bet now is to try to delay this as much as possible until he leaves this Earth. He's not a young man, and he's very adroit at stretching out legal proceedings, so it's certainly possible. And all he had to do was just give the boxes back (or even just say here, take them). What a self-inflicted fiasco.

No he’s not.
-If there’s conk in the WH in 25’ he’s pardoned.
-If there’s a donk in the WH in 25’ there’s still a good chance in S FL of a hung jury or an aquittal.

So with a trump judge and a 50/50 jury the trial is biased in trump's favor? The government and the people can't get a fair trial. They need a change of venue.

I'm not opposed to him being pardoned as long as it includes the requirement that his PACs are shut down and he never run for office again. No more fundraising off of his illicit behavior.

[BDKJMU]

No he’s not.
-If there’s conk in the WH in 25’ he’s pardoned.
-If there’s a donk in the WH in 25’ there’s still a good chance in S FL of a hung jury or an aquittal.

So with a trump judge and a 50/50 jury the trial is biased in trump's favor? The government and the people can't get a fair trial. They need a change of venue.

I'm not opposed to him being pardoned as long as it includes the requirement that his PACs are shut down and he never run for office again. No more fundraising off of his illicit behavior.

No, the crooked DOJ is getting a fair trial. Just not one heavily stacked in their favor like they have with other Trump related & J6 trials with Trump hating donk DC DA, judge, and 92-5 jury pool.

If he is pardoned it won’t be till after the 2024 election, whether or not the trial has already happened, and father time would negate any use for a can’t run again requirement.

[UNI88]

So with a trump judge and a 50/50 jury the trial is biased in trump's favor? The government and the people can't get a fair trial. They need a change of venue.

I'm not opposed to him being pardoned as long as it includes the requirement that his PACs are shut down and he never run for office again. No more fundraising off of his illicit behavior.

No, the crooked DOJ is getting a fair trial. Just not one heavily stacked in their favor like they have with other Trump related & J6 trials with Trump hating donk DC DA, judge, and 92-5 jury pool.

If he is pardoned it won’t be till after the 2024 election, whether or not the trial has already happened, and father time would negate any use for a can’t run again requirement.

Fair trial? With a judge appointed by trump and a jury from a pool that is nearly a 50/50 split? That puts it at 75% in trump's favor.

And don't say the prosecutor is against trump, they're offset by the defense attorney.

[BDKJMU]

No, the crooked DOJ is getting a fair trial. Just not one heavily stacked in their favor like they have with other Trump related & J6 trials with Trump hating donk DC DA, judge, and 92-5 jury pool.

If he is pardoned it won’t be till after the 2024 election, whether or not the trial has already happened, and father time would negate any use for a can’t run again requirement.

Fair trial? With a judge appointed by trump and a jury from a pool that is nearly a 50/50 split? That puts it at 75% in trump's favor.

And don't say the prosecutor is against trump, they're offset by the defense attorney.

Well, Trump have only 1 of 3-4 political trials slightly in his favor, with the rest heavily stacked against him.
-NYC with Brag, the donk judge, and 80some% donk voting jury pool.
-Atlanta with donk Atlanta/Fulton County DA, and without looking it up I’m guessing the bluest county in jawjah.

-And if indicted in DC will be 100% stacked against him..

[houndawg]

Fair trial? With a judge appointed by trump and a jury from a pool that is nearly a 50/50 split? That puts it at 75% in trump's favor.

And don't say the prosecutor is against trump, they're offset by the defense attorney.

Well, Trump have only 1 of 3-4 political trials slightly in his favor, with the rest heavily stacked against him.
-NYC with Brag, the donk judge, and 80some% donk voting jury pool.
-Atlanta with donk Atlanta/Fulton County DA, and without looking it up I’m guessing the bluest county in jawjah.

-And if indicted in DC will be 100% stacked against him..

Its hard when you're guilty as fuck.

[SeattleGriz]

Well, Trump have only 1 of 3-4 political trials slightly in his favor, with the rest heavily stacked against him.
-NYC with Brag, the donk judge, and 80some% donk voting jury pool.
-Atlanta with donk Atlanta/Fulton County DA, and without looking it up I’m guessing the bluest county in jawjah.

-And if indicted in DC will be 100% stacked against him..

Its hard when you're guilty as fuck.

Guilty for what?

[kalm]

Its hard when you're guilty as fuck.

Guilty for what?

Nothing so far (although he’s admitting to crimes in interviews and at rally’s)

He’s innocent until proven guilty in his one, two, three, four, criminal investigations. That in itself is amazing as most criminals get investigated one jurisdiction at a time.

[UNI88]

Justice Dept. begins turning over evidence to Trump team in classified documents case

The interviews include an audio-recorded July 2021 meeting with a writer and publisher at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club in which Trump, according to the indictment, showed and described a Pentagon “plan of attack” that he said was prepared for him by the Defense Department. Also turned over to Trump's lawyers are public statements he made that are referenced in the indictment.

Trump Melts Down as DOJ Turns Over Evidence It Plans to Use Against Him

[kalm]

Justice Dept. begins turning over evidence to Trump team in classified documents case

The interviews include an audio-recorded July 2021 meeting with a writer and publisher at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club in which Trump, according to the indictment, showed and described a Pentagon “plan of attack” that he said was prepared for him by the Defense Department. Also turned over to Trump's lawyers are public statements he made that are referenced in the indictment.

Trump Melts Down as DOJ Turns Over Evidence It Plans to Use Against Him

Rolling Stone?!?

Rubbish!

[houndawg]

Guilty for what?

Nothing so far (although he’s admitting to crimes in interviews and at rally’s)

He’s innocent until proven guilty in his one, two, three, four, criminal investigations. That in itself is amazing as most criminals get investigated one jurisdiction at a time.

Making it harder still is that most of them are too smart to admit to a Federal crime at a TV interview

[UNI88]

It's Salon so take it with a grain of salt but it's funny as sh!t and has more than a hint of truth.

"Too stupid to know better": MAGA eats up Trump's idiot president defense

Trump's litany of B.S. is now becoming all too familiar:

• He supposedly declassified the documents. (He's on tape admitting he hasn't.)
• They were his personal property. (Extensive evidence shows he knows they were not.)
• He's "president" and gets to do whatever he wants. (Basically a confession.)

Trump's strategy is to toss off a bunch of excuses, which often contradict each other, just so his followers can grab onto whichever rationalization tickles their fancy.

Watching this new interview, however, what really stands out is how focused Trump is on arguing that, ultimately, he was just too stupid to know any better. He portrays himself as a doddering old man who is both daunted by his own disorganization and too dimwitted to understand this whole "subpoena" business.

[GannonFan]

It's Salon so take it with a grain of salt but it's funny as sh!t and has more than a hint of truth.

"Too stupid to know better": MAGA eats up Trump's idiot president defense

Trump's litany of B.S. is now becoming all too familiar:

• He supposedly declassified the documents. (He's on tape admitting he hasn't.)
• They were his personal property. (Extensive evidence shows he knows they were not.)
• He's "president" and gets to do whatever he wants. (Basically a confession.)

Trump's strategy is to toss off a bunch of excuses, which often contradict each other, just so his followers can grab onto whichever rationalization tickles their fancy.

Watching this new interview, however, what really stands out is how focused Trump is on arguing that, ultimately, he was just too stupid to know any better. He portrays himself as a doddering old man who is both daunted by his own disorganization and too dimwitted to understand this whole "subpoena" business.

All that stuff in bold is right on the mark for Trump.

[houndawg]

It's Salon so take it with a grain of salt but it's funny as sh!t and has more than a hint of truth.

"Too stupid to know better": MAGA eats up Trump's idiot president defense

All that stuff in bold is right on the mark for Trump.

Its finally penetrated into his brain that he's in deep shit, and he really scared. He was shaking in the interview

[SeattleGriz]

Justice Dept. begins turning over evidence to Trump team in classified documents case

The interviews include an audio-recorded July 2021 meeting with a writer and publisher at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club in which Trump, according to the indictment, showed and described a Pentagon “plan of attack” that he said was prepared for him by the Defense Department. Also turned over to Trump's lawyers are public statements he made that are referenced in the indictment.

Trump Melts Down as DOJ Turns Over Evidence It Plans to Use Against Him

But he's not allowed to talk about it. Got it. Must keep that narrative alive with "leak" after "leak".

What do all the leaks on one side tell you?

[UNI88]

Justice Dept. begins turning over evidence to Trump team in classified documents case
Trump Melts Down as DOJ Turns Over Evidence It Plans to Use Against Him

But he's not allowed to talk about it. Got it. Must keep that narrative alive with "leak" after "leak".

What do all the leaks on one side tell you?

If you’re paranoid and look hard enough or take the right psychedelics, you’ll find a conspiracy where none exists.


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[SeattleGriz]

But he's not allowed to talk about it. Got it. Must keep that narrative alive with "leak" after "leak".

What do all the leaks on one side tell you?

If you’re paranoid and look hard enough or take the right psychedelics, you’ll find a conspiracy where none exists.


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It's fact. Rudy Contreas already ruled Trump was not allowed to speak to the "evidence" the DOJ has presented. But we'll continue to see more leaks from Jack Smiths team.

Why are you okay with our Department Of Justice running such a slipshod operation, they can't even control information? It reeks of unprofessionalism and simple hackary.

[UNI88]

If you’re paranoid and look hard enough or take the right psychedelics, you’ll find a conspiracy where none exists.


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It's fact. Rudy Contreas already ruled Trump was not allowed to speak to the "evidence" the DOJ has presented. But we'll continue to see more leaks from Jack Smiths team.

Why are you okay with our Department Of Justice running such a slipshod operation, they can't even control information? It reeks of unprofessionalism and simple hackary.

Why did they have to muzzle trump? Whose past behavior and antics made it a necessity? Let’s put the blame for that where it belongs which is with trump.

Slipshod investigations have been going on for years including while trump was POTUS. Why did you wait so long to be concerned about them? Are you really concerned about the possible slipshod nature of the investigation or are those claims just a distraction and chum in the water for trump’s marks, oops supporters?

trump and his supporters have no room to complain about unprofessionalism and simple hackery.


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[kalm]

If you’re paranoid and look hard enough or take the right psychedelics, you’ll find a conspiracy where none exists.


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It's fact. Rudy Contreas already ruled Trump was not allowed to speak to the "evidence" the DOJ has presented. But we'll continue to see more leaks from Jack Smiths team.

Why are you okay with our Department Of Justice running such a slipshod operation, they can't even control information? It reeks of unprofessionalism and simple hackary.

I’ll help you out with this because it’s quite simple.



Trump supporters…weak on crime..