I support the liberal position ALL the time. It’s clearly on display.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:29 pmYou’re a post partisan legend in your own mind.kalm wrote:
Yes Burr does. Did I say otherwise? His comedy is just more refined now as it should be. I’ve listened to a number of comedy podcasts from Two Bears, to Rogan, to Band Friends and they all acknowledge this.
I like Nina Turner for her strong voice on working class issues. Something many Democrats could learn from. I don’t expect you to like her or those sentiments.
So my post-partisan track record is still intact.
But yet again, another distraction from the point of the posts. You still got nothin…in either instance.
If Bannon or Alex Jones or Prosobeic or whover it is you follow makes a solid point I’d simply let it stand. Or recognize it if asked.
Not all of us can be post-partisan I guess.
I’ll put my post partisan credentials against yours. I’d put Ganny or Ibanez’s creds against yours as well.
Hint: if you’re supporting/defending the illiberal position 90+% of the time you aren’t post partisan.
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How very partisan of you.kalm wrote:I support the illiberal position ALL the time. It’s clearly on display.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:29 pm You’re a post partisan legend in your own mind.
I’ll put my post partisan credentials against yours. I’d put Ganny or Ibanez’s creds against yours as well.
Hint: if you’re supporting/defending the illiberal position 90+% of the time you aren’t post partisan.
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Yep. I support no party.
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Democrat and illiberal are almost interchangeable. You're supporting/defending the Democratic Party position 90+% of the time. A true post partisan would be in the 40-60% range.
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Indeed they certainly can be. Which is why I’m post partisan.
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Yet here you are agreeing with Baldy…
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I disagree with BDK as often as I disagree with you. At least BDK is self aware enough to know that he's a partisan conservative. You sir, are lacking that self awareness when it comes to your partisanship.
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You're a liberal claiming to be post partisan. Why couldn't a conservative claim to be post partisan?
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Exactly. A conservative CAN be post partisan as well. I’m a lefty, or liberal in American political parlance, but I’m not a partisan Democrat. We have one center right party in the US and one currently extremist right wing party. Unless we change the influence of the duopoly and eliminate money in politics, I’m in strong favor of sanity returning to to the Republican Party. That’s good for the nation as a whole.
Now…do you still want to support Baldy’s denial of the truth in both tweets he took issue with?
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We've been over this before, today's lefty's are illiberals not liberals.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:38 pmExactly. A conservative CAN be post partisan as well. I’m a lefty, or liberal in American political parlance, but I’m not a partisan Democrat. We have one center right party in the US and one currently extremist right wing party. Unless we change the influence of the duopoly and eliminate money in politics, I’m in strong favor of sanity returning to to the Republican Party. That’s good for the nation as a whole.
Now…do you still want to support Baldy’s denial of the truth in both tweets he took issue with?
We have two parties with extremist wings. One is a full fledged kitchen fire at the moment while the other is simmering, just waiting for the right opportunity to blow up (bookmark this post, because it's going to happen). You don't see the nutjobs in the Democratic Party as as big of a problem because their views are closer to your own (i.e. you're biased).
Eliminate money in politics? trump didn't rely on the big money donors so you should be all for him and populists like him. Money has a role in politics. It can be reformed but it should not be eliminated.
I'm strongly in favor of sanity returning to both parties.
Baldy was spot on when he said "Look at the pot trying to call the kettle black." I posted the mirror because you calling out someone for shooting the liberal crackpot messenger was hypocritical and I'll believe you'll let a conservative crackpot's tweet or comment stand if it's a good point when I see it.
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There you go again trying to claim that the party that pushes:kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:38 pmExactly. A conservative CAN be post partisan as well. I’m a lefty, or liberal in American political parlance, but I’m not a partisan Democrat. We have one center right party in the US and one currently extremist right wing party. Unless we change the influence of the duopoly and eliminate money in politics, I’m in strong favor of sanity returning to to the Republican Party. That’s good for the nation as a whole.
Now…do you still want to support Baldy’s denial of the truth in both tweets he took issue with?
-for gender mutilation & puberty blockers for kids,
-for boys/men to be able to play girls/women’s sports,
-the idea there are more than 2 genders
-the reinvention of the use of pronouns,
-the idea men can menstrate,
-the idea men can have babies
-the idea that life doesn’t begin until the baby is born
-a climate agenda where we have to make drastic changes to our way of life because of so call human caused ‘climate change’.
-for trying to eliminate fossil fuels
-for runaway spending despite a debt that is 130+% of GDP,
-for higher taxes
-for bigger govt
-for more govt regulation
-for single payer health care
-for being soft on illegal immigration
-for a quasi open border
-being soft on crime in the name of social justkce sometbing something
-for kowtowing to BLM,
-for tearing down statutes, remaning schools, buildings, military installations
-to ban modern sporting rifles
-for Covid insanity (mask & vaccine mamdates, school closures)
etc, etc, etc,
is ‘center right’…
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All that is offset by the other party kowtowing to a narcissistic sociopathic rapist grifter and buying in to the con that he’s fighting the deep state on their behalf.BDKJMU wrote:There you go again trying to claim that the party that pushes:kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:38 pm Exactly. A conservative CAN be post partisan as well. I’m a lefty, or liberal in American political parlance, but I’m not a partisan Democrat. We have one center right party in the US and one currently extremist right wing party. Unless we change the influence of the duopoly and eliminate money in politics, I’m in strong favor of sanity returning to to the Republican Party. That’s good for the nation as a whole.
Now…do you still want to support Baldy’s denial of the truth in both tweets he took issue with?
-for gender mutilation & puberty blockers for kids,
-for boys/men to be able to play girls/women’s sports,
-the idea there are more than 2 genders
-the reinvention of the use of pronouns,
-the idea men can menstrate,
-the idea men can have babies
-the idea that life doesn’t begin until the baby is born
-a climate agenda where we have to make drastic changes to our way of life because of so call human caused ‘climate change’.
-for trying to eliminate fossil fuels
-for runaway spending despite a debt that is 130+% of GDP,
-for higher taxes
-for bigger govt
-for more govt regulation
-for single payer health care
-for being soft on illegal immigration
-for a quasi open border
-being soft on crime in the name of social justkce sometbing something
-for kowtowing to BLM,
-for tearing down statutes, remaning schools, buildings, military installations
-to ban modern sporting rifles
-for Covid insanity (mask & vaccine mamdates, school closures)
etc, etc, etc,
is ‘center right’…
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They’re trying to eliminate fossil fuels????BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:39 pmThere you go again trying to claim that the party that pushes:kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:38 pm
Exactly. A conservative CAN be post partisan as well. I’m a lefty, or liberal in American political parlance, but I’m not a partisan Democrat. We have one center right party in the US and one currently extremist right wing party. Unless we change the influence of the duopoly and eliminate money in politics, I’m in strong favor of sanity returning to to the Republican Party. That’s good for the nation as a whole.
Now…do you still want to support Baldy’s denial of the truth in both tweets he took issue with?
-for gender mutilation & puberty blockers for kids,
-for boys/men to be able to play girls/women’s sports,
-the idea there are more than 2 genders
-the reinvention of the use of pronouns,
-the idea men can menstrate,
-the idea men can have babies
-the idea that life doesn’t begin until the baby is born
-a climate agenda where we have to make drastic changes to our way of life because of so call human caused ‘climate change’.
-for trying to eliminate fossil fuels
-for runaway spending despite a debt that is 130+% of GDP,
-for higher taxes
-for bigger govt
-for more govt regulation
-for single payer health care
-for being soft on illegal immigration
-for a quasi open border
-being soft on crime in the name of social justkce sometbing something
-for kowtowing to BLM,
-for tearing down statutes, remaning schools, buildings, military installations
-to ban modern sporting rifles
-for Covid insanity (mask & vaccine mamdates, school closures)
etc, etc, etc,
is ‘center right’…
That’s going to take a lot more drilling!
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Again with the sources. Baldy’s favorite response forever with things he doesn’t like is to attack the messenger. Do you think I wasn’t aware of Nina Turner’s popularity with you guys?UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:50 pmWe've been over this before, today's lefty's are illiberals not liberals.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:38 pm
Exactly. A conservative CAN be post partisan as well. I’m a lefty, or liberal in American political parlance, but I’m not a partisan Democrat. We have one center right party in the US and one currently extremist right wing party. Unless we change the influence of the duopoly and eliminate money in politics, I’m in strong favor of sanity returning to to the Republican Party. That’s good for the nation as a whole.
Now…do you still want to support Baldy’s denial of the truth in both tweets he took issue with?
We have two parties with extremist wings. One is a full fledged kitchen fire at the moment while the other is simmering, just waiting for the right opportunity to blow up (bookmark this post, because it's going to happen). You don't see the nutjobs in the Democratic Party as as big of a problem because their views are closer to your own (i.e. you're biased).
Eliminate money in politics? trump didn't rely on the big money donors so you should be all for him and populists like him. Money has a role in politics. It can be reformed but it should not be eliminated.
I'm strongly in favor of sanity returning to both parties.
Baldy was spot on when he said "Look at the pot trying to call the kettle black." I posted the mirror because you calling out someone for shooting the liberal crackpot messenger was hypocritical and I'll believe you'll let a conservative crackpot's tweet or comment stand if it's a good point when I see it.
You are living, breathing proof that we can't all be post-partisan despite however many attempts you make to identify as such.
I’m not worried about agreeing with right wing crack pots. They can and have made some solid points of which I’ve occasionally agreed with publicly. Much of the time I simply don’t feel a need to respond to the obvious. Something you and Baldy could have done here.
It’s not my fault one side (as you just acknowledged, thank you) is more irrational and conspiracy theory based than the other right now.
And yes…I’m biased. So are you. No matter how much you try and teeter on the fence. That’s ok…it’s human.
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Your favorite response with things you don't like is also to attack the messenger thus the mirror and the pot calling the kettle black responses.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:43 amAgain with the sources. Baldy’s favorite response forever with things he doesn’t like is to attack the messenger. Do you think I wasn’t aware of Nina Turner’s popularity with you guys?UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:50 pm
We've been over this before, today's lefty's are illiberals not liberals.
We have two parties with extremist wings. One is a full fledged kitchen fire at the moment while the other is simmering, just waiting for the right opportunity to blow up (bookmark this post, because it's going to happen). You don't see the nutjobs in the Democratic Party as as big of a problem because their views are closer to your own (i.e. you're biased).
Eliminate money in politics? trump didn't rely on the big money donors so you should be all for him and populists like him. Money has a role in politics. It can be reformed but it should not be eliminated.
I'm strongly in favor of sanity returning to both parties.
Baldy was spot on when he said "Look at the pot trying to call the kettle black." I posted the mirror because you calling out someone for shooting the liberal crackpot messenger was hypocritical and I'll believe you'll let a conservative crackpot's tweet or comment stand if it's a good point when I see it.
You are living, breathing proof that we can't all be post-partisan despite however many attempts you make to identify as such.
I’m not worried about agreeing with right wing crack pots. They can and have made some solid points of which I’ve occasionally agreed with publicly. Much of the time I simply don’t feel a need to respond to the obvious. Something you and Baldy could have done here.
It’s not my fault one side (as you just acknowledged, thank you) is more irrational and conspiracy theory based than the other right now.
And yes…I’m biased. So are you. No matter how much you try and teeter on the fence. That’s ok…it’s human.
You guys? I knew little about Nina Turner before this debate and I still know little about her (she isn't important enough for me to look up). Baldy and I aren't in lockstep, we agree on probably 60% of things.
You and I must have very different definitions of post partisan. To me, it means that you moved beyond partisan debates and neither of us have. My partisanship (and my biases) tends to be more balanced between right and left while yours skews hard to the left.
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Damn…I was about to donate too. I mean who doesn’t support Mom’s for Liberty?
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Do you think that is a true statement?He who owns the youth owns the future
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True or not, it's carelessly moronic or intentionally fascist to quote Hitler. You can find another way to get the point across. They probably don't want to quote that communist FDR but ""We can not always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future" works better.
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“Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.”
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Proof that Lenin (like Hitler and Mom's For Liberty) was (is) a groomer.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:54 am “Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.”
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Mom's For Liberty would flip out if a leftwing organization quoted Lenin but they think it's ok to quote Hitler.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:54 am “Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.”
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