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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Bobcat wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:07 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:38 am
It’s a 50/50 deal. trump is to blame for immunity while Biden is to blame for the mandate.

Only a complete and utter moron would vote for either of those wrinkled, old twats in 2024.
Wrong, Congress is to blame for both and Biden supports them. I was duped by corrupt Joe and voted for him last time but it won't happen again.
Link to prove that it was Congress/Biden and trump had nothing to do with immunity?
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:56 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:06 am

Thanks to modern medicine, vaccines…science! :clap:

Slow your role, Vizzini. The flu can be deadly and highly contagious too although I don’t remember it being as bad Covid. But if you read the article, they were running out of staff as well. Or do you think they should just bring the virus with them and work through it?

My youngest went from C’s and D’s to straight A’s once remote was employed last time. No one complains that you’ve been able to get an online college degree for years.

Ever heard of Socrates? Plato? Healthcare experts, teachers?

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Please don’t tell me that you’re going to argue that online learning has been good for school children as a whole. Nationwide the results have been a disaster, esp for lower income and minority..The only ones who benefited as a whole from remote were the teacher’s unions and administrators..
I’m not. I’m just not triggered by districts taking temporary precautions nor do I want the virus to be worse than it has to be.
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:45 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:56 am
Please don’t tell me that you’re going to argue that online learning has been good for school children as a whole. Nationwide the results have been a disaster, esp for lower income and minority..The only ones who benefited as a whole from remote were the teacher’s unions and administrators..
I’m not. I’m just not triggered by districts taking temporary precautions nor do I want the virus to be worse than it has to be.
I'm concerned about schools prioritizing the needs of a small percentage of teachers who are most at risk over the needs of the majority of the students.

I'm concerned that schools will just go virtual without providing enough structure, guidance and requirements so that teachers can effectively reach their students rather than just moving their in person methods and assignments to a virtual world.

Alternative schools and individual teachers succeeded at teaching in a virtual environment because they focused on doing it well and keeping students engaged.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:20 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:45 pm

I’m not. I’m just not triggered by districts taking temporary precautions nor do I want the virus to be worse than it has to be.
I'm concerned about schools prioritizing the needs of a small percentage of teachers who are most at risk over the needs of the majority of the students.

I'm concerned that schools will just go virtual without providing enough structure, guidance and requirements so that teachers can effectively reach their students rather than just moving their in person methods and assignments to a virtual world.

Alternative schools and individual teachers succeeded at teaching in a virtual environment because they focused on doing it well and keeping students engaged.
Nothing wrong those concerns.
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:05 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:20 pm

I'm concerned about schools prioritizing the needs of a small percentage of teachers who are most at risk over the needs of the majority of the students.

I'm concerned that schools will just go virtual without providing enough structure, guidance and requirements so that teachers can effectively reach their students rather than just moving their in person methods and assignments to a virtual world.

Alternative schools and individual teachers succeeded at teaching in a virtual environment because they focused on doing it well and keeping students engaged.
Nothing wrong those concerns.
Surprising, as you'd normally say he's prioritizing self over community.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:32 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:05 pm

Nothing wrong those concerns.
Surprising, as you'd normally say he's prioritizing self over community.
He didn’t mention self and his concerns are community driven.
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Another study showing vaccine induced spike protein floating around your body at least 187 days. Small study, but 50% of the vaccinated had the spike protein in their system 69-187 days after vaccination.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... .202300048
The study group, from southern Italy, was 40 subjects, 20 were vaccinated with the full cycle of mRNA vaccine as of April 2022, being part of the health sector, and 20 were unvaccinated with negativity for COVID-19 to nasopharyngeal test and with no titer of any antibodies. Other 20 unvaccinated persons were added that were positive for COVID-19. The specific PP-Spike fragment was found in 50% of the biological samples analyzed (Figures 1C–E and 2). This presence was independent of the SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody titer. The antibody titers had a geometric mean of 629.86 BAU/mL (Figure 1E). The minimum time PP-Spike was detected was 69 days after vaccination, while the maximum time was 187 days. All controls (samples from unvaccinated individuals) were negative. The control group (20 unvaccinated people) was also tested after contracting COVID-19 and was negative for PP-spike.
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https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 42380/full
BNT162b2 COVID-19 vaccination in children alters cytokine responses to heterologous pathogens and Toll-like receptor agonists
What they are saying in weasel words is that children are more susceptible to bacterial infections for about a month after vaccination and susceptible to viral infections for as long as the study ran (6months) and possibly longer.
The main findings of our study in children are that: (i) BNT162b2 vaccination alters heterologous bacterial and viral cytokine responses 28 and 182 days after the primary vaccination schedule, compared to pre-vaccination; (ii) the effect of BNT162b2 vaccination on heterologous immunity persists for viral but not bacterial stimulants; and (iii) there is no correlation between the heterologous immunological effects and vaccine-specific IgG responses to BNT162b2.
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Even CNN acknowledging that Fraudci is a liar..
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:12 am Even CNN acknowledging that Fraudci is a liar..
Fauci knows better than to use observational studies and modeling to make claims, but he just can't help himself.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:16 am
COVID is so last year, son. Try to keep up with the flock, we won't always be here to help you through life.
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houndawg wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:24 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:16 am
COVID is so last year, son. Try to keep up with the flock, we won't always be here to help you through life.
If you want to forget the lies, be my guest. I'm going to point out the jersey switching AND lies about the vaccine for years to come.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:48 am Another study showing vaccine induced spike protein floating around your body at least 187 days. Small study, but 50% of the vaccinated had the spike protein in their system 69-187 days after vaccination.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... .202300048
The study group, from southern Italy, was 40 subjects, 20 were vaccinated with the full cycle of mRNA vaccine as of April 2022, being part of the health sector, and 20 were unvaccinated with negativity for COVID-19 to nasopharyngeal test and with no titer of any antibodies. Other 20 unvaccinated persons were added that were positive for COVID-19. The specific PP-Spike fragment was found in 50% of the biological samples analyzed (Figures 1C–E and 2). This presence was independent of the SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody titer. The antibody titers had a geometric mean of 629.86 BAU/mL (Figure 1E). The minimum time PP-Spike was detected was 69 days after vaccination, while the maximum time was 187 days. All controls (samples from unvaccinated individuals) were negative. The control group (20 unvaccinated people) was also tested after contracting COVID-19 and was negative for PP-spike.
Was just looking over this study some more. The three proposed mechanisms.
1) It is possible that the mRNA may be integrated or re-transcribed in some cells.

2) It is possible that pseudo-uridines at a particular sequence position, as described in the article, induce the formation of a spike protein that is always constitutively active. But it seems very remote as a hypothesis.

3) It is possible that the mRNA-containing nanoparticle will be picked up by bacteria normally present at the basal level in the blood. In fact, the existence of blood microbiota in clinically healthy individuals was proven during the last 50 years. Indeed, indirect evidence by radiometric analyses suggested the existence of living microbial forms in erythrocytes [25]. In addition, the observation of the PP-Spike marker in individuals vaccinated more than 30 days after the vaccine in about 50% of subjects could also be explained by the wide biodiversity of eukaryotic and prokaryotic microbiota identified in blood by next-generation sequencing technologies [25].
Holy fucking shit. We were told these first two would NEVER happen.

1) The modRNA is incorporated back into your genome
2) The modRNA is degraded quickly. Nope, in fact they now speculate due to using Psuedo-uridine in stead of uracil, the spike protein is "always on" (constitutively). Meaning it not only didn't leave your system, it made a version of the spike protein that is bad news.
3) The bacteria in your system integrated the modRNA and are the ones making the spike protein.

In regards to #3, that is a pathway many feel that RoundUp is abusing. Well know humans don't have the biochemical pathways to be concerned over RoundUp ingestion, but your normal microbiota do have that pathway.

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Amazing how this sort of overreach was predicted when all the public health emergencies were declared during COVID and were labeled as conspiracies.

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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:18 pm Amazing how this sort of overreach was predicted when all the public health emergencies were declared during COVID and were labeled as conspiracies.

Conpletely unconstitutional. The state police were tasked with enforceing it, as the Albuquerque police chief said he won’t enforce it, and Bernadillo Co Sheriff indicated the same. It a ‘civil violation’ which will be immediately challenged both in court, and people openly carrying, which New Mex state law says they have a right to do. 0% chance of any civil fine holding up in state or federal court.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 4:05 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:18 pm Amazing how this sort of overreach was predicted when all the public health emergencies were declared during COVID and were labeled as conspiracies.

Conpletely unconstitutional. The state police were tasked with enforceing it, as the Albuquerque police chief said he won’t enforce it, and Bernadillo Co Sheriff indicated the same. It a ‘civil violation’ which will be immediately challenged both in court, and people openly carrying, which New Mex state law says they have a right to do. 0% chance of any civil fine holding up in state or federal court.
Also NM Attny Gen, a donk no less, says he won’t enforce it.
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That didn’t take long. Also proves the NM gov isn’t too bright, esp one that’s supposedly a lawyer.
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This is a big deal. Lawsuit against the Los Angeles Unified School District’s (LAUSD) Covid-19 vaccine mandate, which is still over n place.

https://brownstone.org/articles/oral-ar ... -carvalho/
Oral Argument in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Health Freedom Defense Fund et al. v. Alberto Carvalho
Questions in regards to vaccine effectiveness actually being asked.
Does it matter whether the shot stops transmission? If the shots don’t stop transmission, what’s the argument for them? Is there any law anywhere that qualifies Jacobson? [Jacobson is a lawsuit brought to the US Supreme Court in 1905, which will be explained in further detail below.] What is the rational basis for saying that a vaccine mandated three years ago continues to work today? What if LAUSD is still requiring the shot twenty years from now, when there is no emergency? How did the school district come up with the premise that it doesn’t matter whether the shot is effective or not?
The key tell was this. Despicable.
A final note, after the Court had adjourned and our attorney and LAUSD’s attorney, Connie Michaels, were walking through the gate from the argument lectern to the gallery, she turned and bitterly spat “What are you going to do when the board rescinds the policy!”

She knew that the hearing had not gone well for LAUSD and, in the heat of the moment, she tipped her hand. LAUSD will likely try to rescind the mandate so that the school district can then argue the case is moot to avoid depositions, discovery, and a trial. This would be a cynical move laying bare that neither LAUSD nor its attorneys give a darn about their employees, their rights, whether the injections work, or the Constitution, they just want power – to do virtually anything
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:03 pm This is a big deal. Lawsuit against the Los Angeles Unified School District’s (LAUSD) Covid-19 vaccine mandate, which is still over n place.

https://brownstone.org/articles/oral-ar ... -carvalho/
Oral Argument in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Health Freedom Defense Fund et al. v. Alberto Carvalho
Questions in regards to vaccine effectiveness actually being asked.
Does it matter whether the shot stops transmission? If the shots don’t stop transmission, what’s the argument for them? Is there any law anywhere that qualifies Jacobson? [Jacobson is a lawsuit brought to the US Supreme Court in 1905, which will be explained in further detail below.] What is the rational basis for saying that a vaccine mandated three years ago continues to work today? What if LAUSD is still requiring the shot twenty years from now, when there is no emergency? How did the school district come up with the premise that it doesn’t matter whether the shot is effective or not?
The key tell was this. Despicable.
A final note, after the Court had adjourned and our attorney and LAUSD’s attorney, Connie Michaels, were walking through the gate from the argument lectern to the gallery, she turned and bitterly spat “What are you going to do when the board rescinds the policy!”

She knew that the hearing had not gone well for LAUSD and, in the heat of the moment, she tipped her hand. LAUSD will likely try to rescind the mandate so that the school district can then argue the case is moot to avoid depositions, discovery, and a trial. This would be a cynical move laying bare that neither LAUSD nor its attorneys give a darn about their employees, their rights, whether the injections work, or the Constitution, they just want power – to do virtually anything
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A big salute to the good people of BedSty who told the liberal white elitist they can stick their COVID vax right up their own ass
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:26 am A big salute to the good people of BedSty who told the liberal white elitist they can stick their COVID vax right up their own ass
Actually the Covid vax is supposed to go in the arm. All 4 of mine did. The next one will too.

I do however receive ozone injections in the ass…to reduce neuropathy pain.
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kalm wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:36 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:26 am A big salute to the good people of BedSty who told the liberal white elitist they can stick their COVID vax right up their own ass
Actually the Covid vax is supposed to go in the arm. All 4 of mine did. The next one will too.

I do however receive ozone injections in the ass…to reduce neuropathy pain.
You can have as many as you want no problem

Just remember your Hero told us all .. if you get the vaccine you will not get the virus.. and people actually believed him which kind of explains why the moron got 81 million votes
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:42 am
kalm wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:36 am

Actually the Covid vax is supposed to go in the arm. All 4 of mine did. The next one will too.

I do however receive ozone injections in the ass…to reduce neuropathy pain.
You can have as many as you want no problem

Just remember your Hero told us all .. if you get the vaccine you will not get the virus.. and people actually believed him which kind of explains why the moron got 81 million votes
Ummm…my hero is Mao Zedong. He didn’t need the votes or the vax.
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