Coronavirus COVID-19

[houndawg]

Another study showing vaccine induced spike protein floating around your body at least 187 days. Small study, but 50% of the vaccinated had the spike protein in their system 69-187 days after vaccination.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... .202300048

Was just looking over this study some more. The three proposed mechanisms.

1) It is possible that the mRNA may be integrated or re-transcribed in some cells.

2) It is possible that pseudo-uridines at a particular sequence position, as described in the article, induce the formation of a spike protein that is always constitutively active. But it seems very remote as a hypothesis.

3) It is possible that the mRNA-containing nanoparticle will be picked up by bacteria normally present at the basal level in the blood. In fact, the existence of blood microbiota in clinically healthy individuals was proven during the last 50 years. Indeed, indirect evidence by radiometric analyses suggested the existence of living microbial forms in erythrocytes [25]. In addition, the observation of the PP-Spike marker in individuals vaccinated more than 30 days after the vaccine in about 50% of subjects could also be explained by the wide biodiversity of eukaryotic and prokaryotic microbiota identified in blood by next-generation sequencing technologies [25].

Holy fucking shit. We were told these first two would NEVER happen.

1) The modRNA is incorporated back into your genome
2) The modRNA is degraded quickly. Nope, in fact they now speculate due to using Psuedo-uridine in stead of uracil, the spike protein is "always on" (constitutively). Meaning it not only didn't leave your system, it made a version of the spike protein that is bad news.
3) The bacteria in your system integrated the modRNA and are the ones making the spike protein.

In regards to #3, that is a pathway many feel that RoundUp is abusing. Well know humans don't have the biochemical pathways to be concerned over RoundUp ingestion, but your normal microbiota do have that pathway.

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

[Gil Dobie]

Was just looking over this study some more. The three proposed mechanisms.



Holy fucking shit. We were told these first two would NEVER happen.

1) The modRNA is incorporated back into your genome
2) The modRNA is degraded quickly. Nope, in fact they now speculate due to using Psuedo-uridine in stead of uracil, the spike protein is "always on" (constitutively). Meaning it not only didn't leave your system, it made a version of the spike protein that is bad news.
3) The bacteria in your system integrated the modRNA and are the ones making the spike protein.

In regards to #3, that is a pathway many feel that RoundUp is abusing. Well know humans don't have the biochemical pathways to be concerned over RoundUp ingestion, but your normal microbiota do have that pathway.

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

Generally the figurehead at the top can baffle people with BS. The peons down below do the work and have the knowledge.

[houndawg]

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

Generally the figurehead at the top can baffle people with BS. The peons down below do the work and have the knowledge.

Generally true but I think unlikely in this case, in spite of SGs vast experience and Phd in virology.

[UNI88]

Was just looking over this study some more. The three proposed mechanisms.
Holy fucking shit. We were told these first two would NEVER happen.

1) The modRNA is incorporated back into your genome
2) The modRNA is degraded quickly. Nope, in fact they now speculate due to using Psuedo-uridine in stead of uracil, the spike protein is "always on" (constitutively). Meaning it not only didn't leave your system, it made a version of the spike protein that is bad news.
3) The bacteria in your system integrated the modRNA and are the ones making the spike protein.

In regards to #3, that is a pathway many feel that RoundUp is abusing. Well know humans don't have the biochemical pathways to be concerned over RoundUp ingestion, but your normal microbiota do have that pathway.

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this and how to take advantage of the resulting crisis than you do.

FYP


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[SeattleGriz]

Was just looking over this study some more. The three proposed mechanisms.



Holy fucking shit. We were told these first two would NEVER happen.

1) The modRNA is incorporated back into your genome
2) The modRNA is degraded quickly. Nope, in fact they now speculate due to using Psuedo-uridine in stead of uracil, the spike protein is "always on" (constitutively). Meaning it not only didn't leave your system, it made a version of the spike protein that is bad news.
3) The bacteria in your system integrated the modRNA and are the ones making the spike protein.

In regards to #3, that is a pathway many feel that RoundUp is abusing. Well know humans don't have the biochemical pathways to be concerned over RoundUp ingestion, but your normal microbiota do have that pathway.

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

No kidding science changes, but the HUGE point you are missing is that the first two scenarios were brought up by PhDs in the field and were censored and called conspiracy theorists for bringing these risks up.

Now they've been proven right. Science isn't supposed to work that way. I specifically called out #2 when I first heard about it, but on more general terms.

[Caribbean Hen]

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

No kidding science changes, but the HUGE point you are missing is that the first two scenarios were brought up by PhDs in the field and were censored and called conspiracy theorists for bringing these risks up.

Now they've been proven right. Science isn't supposed to work that way. I specifically called out #2 when I first heard about it, but on more general terms.

They see all of this as just fine

[houndawg]

No kidding science changes, but the HUGE point you are missing is that the first two scenarios were brought up by PhDs in the field and were censored and called conspiracy theorists for bringing these risks up.

Now they've been proven right. Science isn't supposed to work that way. I specifically called out #2 when I first heard about it, but on more general terms.

They see all of this as just fine

you have to look at it from the perspective of over-population being our biggest common problem

[Caribbean Hen]

They see all of this as just fine

you have to look at it from the perspective of over-population being our biggest common problem

That depends where you are

[kalm]

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

No kidding science changes, but the HUGE point you are missing is that the first two scenarios were brought up by PhDs in the field and were censored and called conspiracy theorists for bringing these risks up.

Now they've been proven right. Science isn't supposed to work that way. I specifically called out #2 when I first heard about it, but on more general terms.

“But man is so partial to systems and abstract conclusions that he is ready to distort the truth, ready to hear nor see anything, as long as he can justify his logic.”

― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Notes from Underground

[houndawg]

you have to look at it from the perspective of over-population being our biggest common problem

That depends where you are

And who "they" is.

[SeattleGriz]

This is a big deal. Lawsuit against the Los Angeles Unified School District’s (LAUSD) Covid-19 vaccine mandate, which is still over n place.

https://brownstone.org/articles/oral-ar ... -carvalho/

Oral Argument in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Health Freedom Defense Fund et al. v. Alberto Carvalho

Questions in regards to vaccine effectiveness actually being asked.

Does it matter whether the shot stops transmission? If the shots don’t stop transmission, what’s the argument for them? Is there any law anywhere that qualifies Jacobson? [Jacobson is a lawsuit brought to the US Supreme Court in 1905, which will be explained in further detail below.] What is the rational basis for saying that a vaccine mandated three years ago continues to work today? What if LAUSD is still requiring the shot twenty years from now, when there is no emergency? How did the school district come up with the premise that it doesn’t matter whether the shot is effective or not?

The key tell was this. Despicable.

A final note, after the Court had adjourned and our attorney and LAUSD’s attorney, Connie Michaels, were walking through the gate from the argument lectern to the gallery, she turned and bitterly spat “What are you going to do when the board rescinds the policy!”

She knew that the hearing had not gone well for LAUSD and, in the heat of the moment, she tipped her hand. LAUSD will likely try to rescind the mandate so that the school district can then argue the case is moot to avoid depositions, discovery, and a trial. This would be a cynical move laying bare that neither LAUSD nor its attorneys give a darn about their employees, their rights, whether the injections work, or the Constitution, they just want power – to do virtually anything

Pieces of shit dropped the vaccine requirement. Didn't want to show they had no basis for all the bullshit they pulled. It was all about power.

[houndawg]

Science is funny that way - you get new information and you change your thinking.

Fauci's asswipe knows more about this than you do.

No kidding science changes, but the HUGE point you are missing is that the first two scenarios were brought up by PhDs in the field and were censored and called conspiracy theorists for bringing these risks up.

Now they've been proven right. Science isn't supposed to work that way. I specifically called out #2 when I first heard about it, but on more general terms.

Happens that way all the time.

Many game-changing advances have been made by scientists who looked beyond the conventional wisdom.

[SeattleGriz]

No kidding science changes, but the HUGE point you are missing is that the first two scenarios were brought up by PhDs in the field and were censored and called conspiracy theorists for bringing these risks up.

Now they've been proven right. Science isn't supposed to work that way. I specifically called out #2 when I first heard about it, but on more general terms.

Happens that way all the time.

Many game-changing advances have been made by scientists who looked beyond the conventional wisdom.

You're talking out your ass and your example sucks. The mRNA shots had a 20 year history of issues and thus why it was never brought to market before the relaxed standards. Those who were familiar with the technology warned everyone what would happen and they were silenced. No COVID scientist looked beyond conventional wisdom here.

[Caribbean Hen]

The Puerto Rico PD searched the oceans and located and arrested a surfer during the height of the COVID hysteria

A concerned citizen called 911 after seeing the lone surfer out on his board offshore

Breezy hot day, waves and just offshore with nobody on the beach

Ridiculous

Puerto Rico vaccination rate was higher than any state I believe and nobody could understand why COVID ripped through the Island anyway as Jojo the Bozo said if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus … insert drumroll

But hey, at least they stopped talking about it and the vice grip of fear instilled by the government waned and people just got on with their lives = pandemic over

[houndawg]

Happens that way all the time.

Many game-changing advances have been made by scientists who looked beyond the conventional wisdom.

You're talking out your ass and your example sucks. The mRNA shots had a 20 year history of issues and thus why it was never brought to market before the relaxed standards. Those who were familiar with the technology warned everyone what would happen and they were silenced. No COVID scientist looked beyond conventional wisdom here.

Wrong on vaccines, wrong on Ukraine, wrong for America.

[houndawg]

The Puerto Rico PD searched the oceans and located and arrested a surfer during the height of the COVID hysteria

A concerned citizen called 911 after seeing the lone surfer out on his board offshore

Breezy hot day, waves and just offshore with nobody on the beach

Ridiculous

Puerto Rico vaccination rate was higher than any state I believe and nobody could understand why COVID ripped through the Island anyway as Jojo the Bozo said if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus … insert drumroll

But hey, at least they stopped talking about it and the vice grip of fear instilled by the government waned and people just got on with their lives = pandemic over

You're full of shit as a christmas turkey.

Nobody ever said "if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus." This is where a little bit of that college-boy schoolin' might have helped you. When I caught covid I only knew I had because I tested positive for something that had already killed a million people. That's what vaccines do.

[Caribbean Hen]

The Puerto Rico PD searched the oceans and located and arrested a surfer during the height of the COVID hysteria

A concerned citizen called 911 after seeing the lone surfer out on his board offshore

Breezy hot day, waves and just offshore with nobody on the beach

Ridiculous

Puerto Rico vaccination rate was higher than any state I believe and nobody could understand why COVID ripped through the Island anyway as Jojo the Bozo said if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus … insert drumroll

But hey, at least they stopped talking about it and the vice grip of fear instilled by the government waned and people just got on with their lives = pandemic over

You're full of shit as a christmas turkey.

Nobody ever said "if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus." This is where a little bit of that college-boy schoolin' might have helped you. When I caught covid I only knew I had because I tested positive for something that had already killed a million people. That's what vaccines do.

Are you sure Dim Biden didn’t say that?

Nope, passed on college as long as I could

[houndawg]

You're full of shit as a christmas turkey.

Nobody ever said "if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus." This is where a little bit of that college-boy schoolin' might have helped you. When I caught covid I only knew I had because I tested positive for something that had already killed a million people. That's what vaccines do.

Are you sure Dim Biden didn’t say that?

Nope, passed on college as long as I could

The whole world but you understands that vaccines don't keep you from catching, they keep you from dying.

[SeattleGriz]

You're talking out your ass and your example sucks. The mRNA shots had a 20 year history of issues and thus why it was never brought to market before the relaxed standards. Those who were familiar with the technology warned everyone what would happen and they were silenced. No COVID scientist looked beyond conventional wisdom here.

Wrong on vaccines, wrong on Ukraine, wrong for America.

Sounds like a campaign slogan!

[houndawg]

Wrong on vaccines, wrong on Ukraine, wrong for America.

Sounds like a campaign slogan!

Seattle Griz supports gender reassignment surgery for young chidren

Now you can run for governor of Kentucky!

[GannonFan]

The Puerto Rico PD searched the oceans and located and arrested a surfer during the height of the COVID hysteria

A concerned citizen called 911 after seeing the lone surfer out on his board offshore

Breezy hot day, waves and just offshore with nobody on the beach

Ridiculous

Puerto Rico vaccination rate was higher than any state I believe and nobody could understand why COVID ripped through the Island anyway as Jojo the Bozo said if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus … insert drumroll

But hey, at least they stopped talking about it and the vice grip of fear instilled by the government waned and people just got on with their lives = pandemic over

You're full of shit as a christmas turkey.

Nobody ever said "if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus." This is where a little bit of that college-boy schoolin' might have helped you. When I caught covid I only knew I had because I tested positive for something that had already killed a million people. That's what vaccines do.

Why do you repeatedly say that "nobody ever said 'if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus' when you know very well, as does everyone else here, that Biden said that exact thing.

From the link...

But then, during a third exchange, Biden said that since the vaccines “cover” the highly transmissible Delta variant of the virus: “You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations.”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics ... index.html

I don't understand the need to go all Trump/Biden and just keep repeating something you know is patently untrue.

[houndawg]

You're full of shit as a christmas turkey.

Nobody ever said "if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus." This is where a little bit of that college-boy schoolin' might have helped you. When I caught covid I only knew I had because I tested positive for something that had already killed a million people. That's what vaccines do.

Why do you repeatedly say that "nobody ever said 'if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus' when you know very well, as does everyone else here, that Biden said that exact thing.

From the link...

But then, during a third exchange, Biden said that since the vaccines “cover” the highly transmissible Delta variant of the virus: “You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations.”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics ... index.html

I don't understand the need to go all Trump/Biden and just keep repeating something you know is patently untrue.

My bad - I should have phrased it - "nobody knowledgeable ever said...... "

[SeattleGriz]

Are you sure Dim Biden didn’t say that?

Nope, passed on college as long as I could

The whole world but you understands that vaccines don't keep you from catching, they keep you from dying.

You sure walked into that one. Check the definition of vaccine before the covid shot. Vaccines were to prevent infection. It's why they changed the definition, because they were getting hammered over calling it a vaccine.

Why do you think they've referred to the flu shot as a shot instead of vaccine all these years? Because it was never considered a vaccine.

You cannot validate your claim that the vaccine prevented you from getting sick, especially when the IFR for your age range was probably close to 20 in 10,000.

My family never got the shot and we are still not sure if we had COVID. If we did, it was no worse than the numerous other respiratory illnesses we have dealt with through the years with the kids and school.

COVID was mainly a problem for those who are concerned every cold and flu season, as it dipped deeper into this crowd.

[GannonFan]

Why do you repeatedly say that "nobody ever said 'if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus' when you know very well, as does everyone else here, that Biden said that exact thing.

From the link...


https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics ... index.html

I don't understand the need to go all Trump/Biden and just keep repeating something you know is patently untrue.

My bad - I should have phrased it - "nobody knowledgeable ever said...... "

We need to stop putting unknowledgeable people in the White House then. We're in danger of, sorry for the lack of a better word, trumping the 1850's for the worst 3 successive Presidencies ever. Fillmore/Pierce/Buchanan was previously the pits when it came to Presidential mediocrity, but the Trump/Biden/? is saying hold my beer. Bush and Obama weren't great Presidents, but at least they had some working knowledge of what was going on. I'd settle for that right now.

[Caribbean Hen]

Why do you repeatedly say that "nobody ever said 'if you get vaccinated you will not get the virus' when you know very well, as does everyone else here, that Biden said that exact thing.

From the link...


https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics ... index.html

I don't understand the need to go all Trump/Biden and just keep repeating something you know is patently untrue.

My bad - I should have phrased it - "nobody knowledgeable ever said...... "

Go stand in the corner hounddawg