The Ukraine Crisis

[SDHornet]

Ruskies look to be on the move again, made encirclement movements on Avdiivka and push forward on a lot of fronts.

Good news for Biden and the warmongers in DC is the Israel-Palestine debacle has give them an offramp from the disaster that as been the Ukrainian-Russian War. They would be wise to take it...unless there are folks that actually still believe Ukraine is winning.

[SeattleGriz]

Ruskies look to be on the move again, made encirclement movements on Avdiivka and push forward on a lot of fronts.

Good news for Biden and the warmongers in DC is the Israel-Palestine debacle has give them an offramp from the disaster that as been the Ukrainian-Russian War. They would be wise to take it...unless there are folks that actually still believe Ukraine is winning.

Cue Jelly with "pincer, pincer" statement without having any clue as to Russia's tactics in 3,2,1...

[UNI88]

Ruskies look to be on the move again, made encirclement movements on Avdiivka and push forward on a lot of fronts.

Good news for Biden and the warmongers in DC is the Israel-Palestine debacle has give them an offramp from the disaster that as been the Ukrainian-Russian War. They would be wise to take it...unless there are folks that actually still believe Ukraine is winning.

Cue Jelly with "pincer, pincer" statement without having any clue as to Russia's tactics in 3,2,1...

Harry's back! Lloyd's so happy he just piddled in his pants.

[SDHornet]

Cue Jelly with "pincer, pincer" statement without having any clue as to Russia's tactics in 3,2,1...

Harry's back! Lloyd's so happy he just piddled in his pants.

Honestly stopped paying as much attention to this war when it became evident that Ukraine's big counter attack was one big dud. This war is over and the only thing unsettled is the amount of stacked bodies on either side. Putin secured his land bridge to Crimea and Ukraine and their NATO training and equipment isn't enough to take it back.

[houndawg]

With blood money from Mr. Bone Saw.

Hey Klamala #2. I'll bone saw you.

good luck


I'll hit you so hard you'll starve to death before you quit rolling.

[SeattleGriz]

Hey Klamala #2. I'll bone saw you.

good luck


I'll hit you so hard you'll starve to death before you quit rolling.

One of the best lines I'd heard was when one guy told another that before they got into it, he'd better go outside and practice throwing himself onto the ground, because if they got into it, that's what was going to happen to him.

[houndawg]

good luck


I'll hit you so hard you'll starve to death before you quit rolling.

One of the best lines I'd heard was when one guy told another that before they got into it, he'd better go outside and practice throwing himself onto the ground, because if they got into it, that's what was going to happen to him.

[Skjellyfetti]

[kalm]

[SeattleGriz]

Jelly reduced to Benny Hill videos. After all that professing Ukraine was dominating. Dang.

[Skjellyfetti]

There are scores of videos of Russian convoys being wiped out in Avdiivka I haven't bothered to post if you'd prefer. Or the 20+ attack helicopters taken out in the first ATACMS strikes. Just let me know what content you'd like

[UNI88]

There are scores of videos of Russian convoys being wiped out in Avdiivka I haven't bothered to post if you'd prefer. Or the 20+ attack helicopters taken out in the first ATACMS strikes. Just let me know what content you'd like

That's all fake news. Part of a hoax perpetrated by Nazis and their supporters.







Do I need to including a wink or sarcasm smilie?

[SeattleGriz]

There are scores of videos of Russian convoys being wiped out in Avdiivka I haven't bothered to post if you'd prefer. Or the 20+ attack helicopters taken out in the first ATACMS strikes. Just let me know what content you'd like

Fuck dude. Still hanging on to your bullshit videos? How much damage does Ukraine have to take before you stop wanting to pile bodies?

Edit: Now see what you are saying ATACMs used to strike a helicopter base, not shoot them down.

[kalm]

There are scores of videos of Russian convoys being wiped out in Avdiivka I haven't bothered to post if you'd prefer. Or the 20+ attack helicopters taken out in the first ATACMS strikes. Just let me know what content you'd like

Fuck dude. Still hanging on to your bullshit videos? How much damage does Ukraine have to take before you stop wanting to pile bodies?

What the fuck do helicopters have to do with ATACM strikes. Those aren't used for shooting down helicopters? Just like your glee over Patriot missles. What ever happened to those?

They took out a base, Trolly Trollster. UKR troops are now also east of the Dnipro.

[SeattleGriz]

Fuck dude. Still hanging on to your bullshit videos? How much damage does Ukraine have to take before you stop wanting to pile bodies?

What the fuck do helicopters have to do with ATACM strikes. Those aren't used for shooting down helicopters? Just like your glee over Patriot missles. What ever happened to those?

They took out a base, Trolly Trollster. UKR troops are now also east of the Dnipro.

Yes, I'm sure. Just like how their big offensive was capturing a three house tract of land. How many times do you have to keep falling for the same stuff?

[houndawg]

There are scores of videos of Russian convoys being wiped out in Avdiivka I haven't bothered to post if you'd prefer. Or the 20+ attack helicopters taken out in the first ATACMS strikes. Just let me know what content you'd like

Fuck dude. Still hanging on to your bullshit videos? How much damage does Ukraine have to take before you stop wanting to pile bodies?

What the fuck do helicopters have to do with ATACM strikes. Those aren't used for shooting down helicopters? Just like your glee over Patriot missles. What ever happened to those?

As Russia's invasion contnues to bog down you seem to become ever more peevish.

If you think Russian morale is in the toilet now wait until they've been freezing their asses off in the mud this winter and the missiles are taking out their supply train and the only choice they have is which way the want to die: starve, freeze, a bullet from the Ukrainians if they go forward, a bullet from the Russians if they retreat.


Where would you set the over/under for number of Russian convicts that surrender this winter?

[SeattleGriz]

Fuck dude. Still hanging on to your bullshit videos? How much damage does Ukraine have to take before you stop wanting to pile bodies?

What the fuck do helicopters have to do with ATACM strikes. Those aren't used for shooting down helicopters? Just like your glee over Patriot missles. What ever happened to those?

As Russia's invasion contnues to bog down you seem to become ever more peevish.

If you think Russian morale is in the toilet now wait until they've been freezing their asses off in the mud this winter and the missiles are taking out their supply train and the only choice they have is which way the want to die: starve, freeze, a bullet from the Ukrainians if they go forward, a bullet from the Russians if they retreat.


Where would you set the over/under for number of Russian convicts that surrender this winter?

I'm more worried about the Ukrainians. Will they have any able bodied men left over, excluding the super wealthy kids? Average age of their military is ridiculously high.

In regards to Russia, they're fine. They keep rotating troops as Ukraine fails to make a dent.

[houndawg]

As Russia's invasion contnues to bog down you seem to become ever more peevish.

If you think Russian morale is in the toilet now wait until they've been freezing their asses off in the mud this winter and the missiles are taking out their supply train and the only choice they have is which way the want to die: starve, freeze, a bullet from the Ukrainians if they go forward, a bullet from the Russians if they retreat.


Where would you set the over/under for number of Russian convicts that surrender this winter?

I'm more worried about the Ukrainians. Will they have any able bodied men left over, excluding the super wealthy kids? Average age of their military is ridiculously high.

In regards to Russia, they're fine. They keep rotating troops as Ukraine fails to make a dent.

No, they keep replacing them. Big difference.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm more worried about the Ukrainians. Will they have any able bodied men left over, excluding the super wealthy kids? Average age of their military is ridiculously high.

In regards to Russia, they're fine. They keep rotating troops as Ukraine fails to make a dent.

No, they keep replacing them. Big difference.

No. It's very obvious Ukraine doesn't have much left in the way of fighting. For some reason, you're just like GannonFan in your belief Russia just keeps sending thousands of troops to their deaths. Russia has been very slow and methodical.

Now if you want to talk about Wagner, that's a different story, because those battles were Russian mercenaries vs Ukrainian mercenaries. It's the Ukrainian mercenaries that Putin refers to as the Nazis.

[houndawg]

No, they keep replacing them. Big difference.

No. It's very obvious Ukraine doesn't have much left in the way of fighting. For some reason, you're just like GannonFan in your belief Russia just keeps sending thousands of troops to their deaths. Russia has been very slow and methodical.

Now if you want to talk about Wagner, that's a different story, because those battles were Russian mercenaries vs Ukrainian mercenaries. It's the Ukrainian mercenaries that Putin refers to as the Nazis.

They're done for this winter. Putin has bigger things to worry about - like how he gets out of this alive. Not to mention that the brain drain alone will set Russia's "progress" back 20 years as the west takes their pick of Russian talent fleeing the draft.

[SDHornet]

Lots of Ukrainian Brosint accounts shutting down or "pivoting" to cover the Israeli War. The CIA propaganda money must be drying up.

[SeattleGriz]

Lots of Ukrainian Brosint accounts shutting down or "pivoting" to cover the Israeli War. The CIA propaganda money must be drying up.

Hardest hit: "Russia collusion" Jelly, SilentO and Hyundai.

[kalm]

Lots of Ukrainian Brosint accounts shutting down or "pivoting" to cover the Israeli War. The CIA propaganda money must be drying up.

Hardest hit: "Russia collusion" Jelly, SilentO and Hyundai.

Found a hat for you tankies…

[SeattleGriz]

Hardest hit: "Russia collusion" Jelly, SilentO and Hyundai.

Found a hat for you tankies…

Noted. You're upset your propaganda is being shut down too.

[kalm]

Found a hat for you tankies…

Noted. You're upset your propaganda is being shut down too.

This might help you.

Naomi Klein examines the mushrooming of conspiracism in her new book Doppelganger, noting that people often come under its sway because they are searching for a practical solution to a sense of unfairness. Conspiracists have a “fantasy of justice”, hoping that the evil-doing elites can be arrested and stopped. “Conspiracy theorists get the facts wrong but often get the feelings right,” she writes. “The feeling that every human misery is someone else’s profit … the feeling that important truths are being hidden.” She quotes digital journalism scholar Marcus Gilroy-Ware’s conclusion that: “Conspiracy theories are a misfiring of a healthy and justifiable political instinct: suspicion.”

Lee’s appetite for conspiracies started to wane when the “alt-right” US broadcaster Alex Jones began claiming that the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax, that no one died and the parents of the 20 children who died were “crisis actors” – hired to play disaster victims. Lee found this implausible and felt irritated by other wild theories swirling around the internet – that Justin Bieber and Eminem were Illuminati clones, that a paedophile ring, involving people at the highest level of the Democratic party, was operating out of a Washington pizza restaurant. “I looked at Pizzagate and thought, ‘Well that’s just stupid.’” (He spends six podcast episodes debunking the Pizzagate conspiracy; this seems a pithier summary.)


When Covid triggered a popularity surge for conspiracy theorists, Lee was already done with it, and simply noted that if there really was a global movement working to establish a new world order through the pandemic, they were going about it in a strikingly ill-coordinated and muddled manner. “The governments weren’t acting in lockstep with each other. There was no well-oiled machine; it was disorganised. No one was in charge.”

He understands why other people were attracted to the idea: “Just like 9/11 brought people into conspiracies, Covid was another moment when people were scared and wanted answers, and they found conspiracy influencers saying: ‘Don’t worry about it, it’s not real.’”

Lee was an early adopter of ideas that have surged in popularity as people spend more time online, and as trust in the mainstream media falters with the suggestion (much propagated by the former US president Donald Trump) that they are spreaders of fake news. The emergence of QAnon (which propagates the baseless theory that Trump was battling a cabal of sex-trafficking satanists, some of whom were Democrats) has attracted more people to this world. Lee’s interests preceded the arrival of powerful opinion-shaping algorithms pushing people into closed loops of fact-free narratives. Since leaving the fold he has developed a sharp clarity about the self-interested financial motivations of conspiracists who work to monetise their online presence with increasingly wild, clickbaity dispatches.

We’re no longer talking about minor fringe movements – radicalisation is spreading through a complex system of beliefs “It’s a big problem that’s getting much worse. People are being manipulated with misinformation,” he says. He was disturbed by the death in 2021 of Ashli Babbitt, the woman shot by a police officer during the 6 January riots inside the US Capitol. Her Twitter feed was full of references to QAnon conspiracies. “That could have been me or my partner,” he says of Babbitt. “She believed what we believed. That’s what made me think I should speak out, tell my story to help bring other conspiracists out, so they don’t become the next Ashli.”

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... us-beliefs