Huh. Why do they keep pulling that move then? Remember all the Russia collusion that wasn't?kalm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:41 pmNo.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:06 pm
Isn't that how our DOJ works? Threaten people and their families with crazy charges. Remember how they went after Flynn's son to get him to plead guilty.
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Exactly. Surprisingly I've not heard one "leak" from the Hunter special counsel. They must be super professional compared to the Jack Smith and Mueller special counsels that leaked like sieves.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:07 amLol The DOJ has done everything they can to protect the Biden crime familySkjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:24 am
ohhhhhhh. that explains the hunter biden stuff. thank you!
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Trump not guilty. Hardest hit: UNI and his foil hat "Trump's installing his grift".
https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-cl ... stigation/Former President Donald Trump has been cleared of at least one of the many nuisance charges Democrats have thrown at him since he left office in 2020.
After a lengthy, four-year review, a Department of Justice watchdog has officially found that Trump did not improperly influence the FBI’s decision to keep its headquarters in Washington, D.C., instead of moving it to Virginia or Maryland, according to a DOJ report.
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I didn't even know he'd been in court for this. Doesn't change my option one bit.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:35 pm Trump not guilty. Hardest hit: UNI and his foil hat "Trump's installing his grift".
https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-cl ... stigation/Former President Donald Trump has been cleared of at least one of the many nuisance charges Democrats have thrown at him since he left office in 2020.
After a lengthy, four-year review, a Department of Justice watchdog has officially found that Trump did not improperly influence the FBI’s decision to keep its headquarters in Washington, D.C., instead of moving it to Virginia or Maryland, according to a DOJ report.
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Goose/gander.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:06 pmIsn't that how our DOJ works? Threaten people and their families with crazy charges. Remember how they went after Flynn's son to get him to plead guilty.
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More likely they don't have anything to leak. If they did it would be out there in campaign ads.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:24 amExactly. Surprisingly I've not heard one "leak" from the Hunter special counsel. They must be super professional compared to the Jack Smith and Mueller special counsels that leaked like sieves.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:07 am
Lol The DOJ has done everything they can to protect the Biden crime family
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Yeah sure. Felonies reduced to misdemeanor and won't end up on their records in addition to them not having to admit guilty.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:29 pmMore likely they don't have anything to leak. If they did it would be out there in campaign ads.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:24 am
Exactly. Surprisingly I've not heard one "leak" from the Hunter special counsel. They must be super professional compared to the Jack Smith and Mueller special counsels that leaked like sieves.
Republicans are some weird mofos - everybody knows the election was legit but if you say it out loud you can't be Speaker of the House. No matter that the lawyers that cooked up the scheme are copping guilty pleas right and left.
They all know what the game is. Overcharge heavily in the hopes people don't want to spend the time and money proving innocence.
This is simply to trot out some "guilty" verdicts in front of the jury when they fail at getting Trump.
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Innocence ain’t cheap for some is it?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:16 pmYeah sure. Felonies reduced to misdemeanor and won't end up on their records in addition to them not having to admit guilty.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:29 pm
More likely they don't have anything to leak. If they did it would be out there in campaign ads.
Republicans are some weird mofos - everybody knows the election was legit but if you say it out loud you can't be Speaker of the House. No matter that the lawyers that cooked up the scheme are copping guilty pleas right and left.
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This is simply to trot out some "guilty" verdicts in front of the jury when they fail at getting Trump.
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Especially when you're trump and you've done nothing wrong. This is all a witch hunt by a weaponized DoJ and America hating liberal judges.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:15 pmInnocence ain’t cheap for some is it?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:16 pm
Yeah sure. Felonies reduced to misdemeanor and won't end up on their records in addition to them not having to admit guilty.
They all know what the game is. Overcharge heavily in the hopes people don't want to spend the time and money proving innocence.
This is simply to trot out some "guilty" verdicts in front of the jury when they fail at getting Trump.
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So do you think he’ll eventually plead guilty to a lesser charge too? Maybe to avoid jail time?
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I don't know. If convicted, it will be conflict between his hubris (he can do no wrong) and his cowardice (jail is scary).
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No it's not, and it isn't just the DOJ that pulls this trick. The wealthy (yes Trump) pull this trick on the less affluent all the time.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:15 pmInnocence ain’t cheap for some is it?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:16 pm
Yeah sure. Felonies reduced to misdemeanor and won't end up on their records in addition to them not having to admit guilty.
They all know what the game is. Overcharge heavily in the hopes people don't want to spend the time and money proving innocence.
This is simply to trot out some "guilty" verdicts in front of the jury when they fail at getting Trump.
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Cheesebro got a felony, and the deals don't get better with time.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:16 pmYeah sure. Felonies reduced to misdemeanor and won't end up on their records in addition to them not having to admit guilty.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:29 pm
More likely they don't have anything to leak. If they did it would be out there in campaign ads.
Republicans are some weird mofos - everybody knows the election was legit but if you say it out loud you can't be Speaker of the House. No matter that the lawyers that cooked up the scheme are copping guilty pleas right and left.
They all know what the game is. Overcharge heavily in the hopes people don't want to spend the time and money proving innocence.
This is simply to trot out some "guilty" verdicts in front of the jury when they fail at getting Trump.
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I don't think they will let him cop a plea, I think they will want to make an example of him for future challengers, domestic and foreign.
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The publishers of Mark Meadows book are now suing him for lying in his book. They want all of their money back plus a million dollars for damages.
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Everybody who interacts with him comes away diminished by the experience. You can't scrape him off of your shoe.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:28 am The publishers of Mark Meadows book are now suing him for lying in his book. They want all of their money back plus a million dollars for damages.
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So today’s testimony is going smooth.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/donald ... fies-in-nyTrump was then asked if he continued to stand by the inflated valuations in his 2014 financial statements. He responded, "People like you go around and try to demean me and hurt me ... there was a disclaimer clause ... This is disgraceful." Then addressing AG Letitia James he said, "She's a political hack and using this case to become Governor ... this is a political witch hunt ... the fraud is her."
Trump then started rambling again about the disclaimer clause and Judge Engoron interrupted, saying that they weren't going back over that again and if he was confused about his ruling about it then he should go back and read the decision. (He said that those clauses don't mean the statement can't be relied upon because you have a duty to try to provide accurate information despite a disclaimer).
Trump responded to the judge, "He called me a fraud and he doesn't even know me ... He said Mar-a-Lago was worth $18 million, what a fraud. As President of the United States, we did a great job. Just look at the president we have today. It's a terrible thing you've done. You believed that political hack sitting back there." (Gesturing at James).
The prosecutor then asked Trump who in Trump Org was responsible for making sure that the financial statements submitted by his accounting firm were accurate. Trump responded, "Everybody. I tell people, if anybody sees anything wrong, report it."
Trump was then shown an article by Forbes, which broke the story that he wildly inflated the size of his New York apartment. He then attacked Forbes, "They're owned by China. Now, they sold it to Russia. I have very little respect for Forbes. I haven't dealt with Forbes in years. I think they're out of business."
Trump was then shown a statement from 2015 that showed he was losing millions of dollars on 40 Wall Street. Trump claimed the reason for that was because he was investing a lot of money into the property "fixing it up. We rebuilt the elevators, the lobbies." Trump then motioned back to AG Letitia James and said, "She doesn't know what 40 Wall Street is worth. She doesn't even know where 40 Wall Street is. It's going to do very well in the future." (This caused James to briefly start laughing as her office is right next to 40 Wall Street).
Trump was asked what method he used to value 40 Wall Street: "I can look at buildings and tell you what they're worth. You have to spend money to make money. Now they said take away all his properties like they do in communist China. In this country today, a certain judge can do it."
Trump then claimed he doesn't remember telling a reporter that 40 Wall Street had been appraised for $600 million. He was then shown an email from Don Jr to Trump Org executives in 2012 where he said that his father had just told a reporter it was appraised at $600 million and was hoping it would get printed in a story.
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kalm wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 am So today’s testimony is going smooth.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/donald ... fies-in-nyTrump was then asked if he continued to stand by the inflated valuations in his 2014 financial statements. He responded, "People like you go around and try to demean me and hurt me ... there was a disclaimer clause ... This is disgraceful." Then addressing AG Letitia James he said, "She's a political hack and using this case to become Governor ... this is a political witch hunt ... the fraud is her."
Trump then started rambling again about the disclaimer clause and Judge Engoron interrupted, saying that they weren't going back over that again and if he was confused about his ruling about it then he should go back and read the decision. (He said that those clauses don't mean the statement can't be relied upon because you have a duty to try to provide accurate information despite a disclaimer).
Trump responded to the judge, "He called me a fraud and he doesn't even know me ... He said Mar-a-Lago was worth $18 million, what a fraud. As President of the United States, we did a great job. Just look at the president we have today. It's a terrible thing you've done. You believed that political hack sitting back there." (Gesturing at James).
The prosecutor then asked Trump who in Trump Org was responsible for making sure that the financial statements submitted by his accounting firm were accurate. Trump responded, "Everybody. I tell people, if anybody sees anything wrong, report it."
Trump was then shown an article by Forbes, which broke the story that he wildly inflated the size of his New York apartment. He then attacked Forbes, "They're owned by China. Now, they sold it to Russia. I have very little respect for Forbes. I haven't dealt with Forbes in years. I think they're out of business."
Trump was then shown a statement from 2015 that showed he was losing millions of dollars on 40 Wall Street. Trump claimed the reason for that was because he was investing a lot of money into the property "fixing it up. We rebuilt the elevators, the lobbies." Trump then motioned back to AG Letitia James and said, "She doesn't know what 40 Wall Street is worth. She doesn't even know where 40 Wall Street is. It's going to do very well in the future." (This caused James to briefly start laughing as her office is right next to 40 Wall Street).
Trump was asked what method he used to value 40 Wall Street: "I can look at buildings and tell you what they're worth. You have to spend money to make money. Now they said take away all his properties like they do in communist China. In this country today, a certain judge can do it."
Trump then claimed he doesn't remember telling a reporter that 40 Wall Street had been appraised for $600 million. He was then shown an email from Don Jr to Trump Org executives in 2012 where he said that his father had just told a reporter it was appraised at $600 million and was hoping it would get printed in a story.
SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:52 am Who'd vote for this person? Please have your head checked after you punch yourself in the face.
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The world's smallest violin plays for poor Habba ...
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...a change in strategy - (them lawyers better demand payment, pronto) - goad the judge, try to get him to fuck up. If that doesn't work fire the lawyers to stall for time
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Look at the one to his left - that dude knows he's going get stiffed...
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Maybe not everyone is against trumpkins.
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