Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

[houndawg]

After he loses his re-election and is no longer a member of Congress we'll extradite him to Brasil. Two of my bandmates are from Brazil; they don't like his chances if he's sent back.

Didn't they drop the charges in Brazil for this nutcase? Do we extradite people for theft of that quantity?

As for him in Congress, I'm all in favor of him staying - if the lazy voters and media where he lives couldn't see through his act and elected him, that's on them. If they want to kick him out then that's also up to them. At some point voters need to be accountable for their decisions. I'm glad this nut doesn't represent me, but then again, I pay attention to who runs in my district. The beauty of the House elections is that people can screw it up again just two years later.

I don't know, I'll ask at band practice. My friends said it was identity theft that they wanted him for. I don't know about extradition, why wouldn't we let them have him if they wanted him if he weren't in Congress?

[houndawg]

All semi-auto guns capable of holding more than five rounds should be placed in the same BATF category as machine guns.

And millions of law abiding Americans rightfully would not comply to such an anti 2A, unconstitutional edict, that would be overturned by SCOTUS, if it even made it that far.

The BATF should be abolished. The US existed for close to 200 years before the BATF was established in 1972. And we had semi autos capable of handling more than 5 rounds for nearly a century before the BATF existed, with less mass shootings. Shootings INCREASED AFTER the BATF was created, and after they started background checks in the 80s. That tells you how worthless the BATF is.

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a govt agency.

Edit: And your proposal would be 100% impractical even of it weren’t unconstitutional.

Nothing anti-2A about it - it prevents nobody from owning one. Nothing impractical either, stroke of a pen.

The militia will have one waiting for you at the armory if you need one.

Best way to get them banned would be to start showing pictures of what the AR did at Uvalde, et. al.

[kalm]

The more he has to reload the better the chances for the targets - in this case more than one person was killed while rushing the shooter. Nobody needs more than five rounds for any kind of hunting, you're limited to three shells bird hunting, and the same should apply to people, especially school kids. They deserve a sporting chance and if you have to reload after five rounds that will give them a chance to make a break for it. Once they're running around the small ones are much harder to hit.

Spoken like a typical leftist who doesn’t understand 2A has zero to do with hunting. That’s ok, I’m here to enlighten on such matters.

It also has zero to do with modern firearms or mass murder.

[houndawg]

The more he has to reload the better the chances for the targets - in this case more than one person was killed while rushing the shooter. Nobody needs more than five rounds for any kind of hunting, you're limited to three shells bird hunting, and the same should apply to people, especially school kids. They deserve a sporting chance and if you have to reload after five rounds that will give them a chance to make a break for it. Once they're running around the small ones are much harder to hit.

Spoken like a typical leftist who doesn’t understand 2A has zero to do with hunting. That’s ok, I’m here to enlighten on such matters.

I understand that perfectly and as I said above The militia has your arms waiting at the armory should you need them - not to mention that "militia" meant fighting age males when the 2A was written.

[GannonFan]

Didn't they drop the charges in Brazil for this nutcase? Do we extradite people for theft of that quantity?

As for him in Congress, I'm all in favor of him staying - if the lazy voters and media where he lives couldn't see through his act and elected him, that's on them. If they want to kick him out then that's also up to them. At some point voters need to be accountable for their decisions. I'm glad this nut doesn't represent me, but then again, I pay attention to who runs in my district. The beauty of the House elections is that people can screw it up again just two years later.

I don't know, I'll ask at band practice. My friends said it was identity theft that they wanted him for. I don't know about extradition, why wouldn't we let them have him if they wanted him if he weren't in Congress?

I think he wrote phony checks to pay for things. Probably a cross-section of identity theft for the purpose of outright theft. But they don't need to extradite him - Brazil's not asking for him, the case was closed (pretty sure he pled guilty and paid a fine). So extradition is off the books for this guy.

[GannonFan]

Spoken like a typical leftist who doesn’t understand 2A has zero to do with hunting. That’s ok, I’m here to enlighten on such matters.

I understand that perfectly and as I said above The militia has your arms waiting at the armory should you need them - not to mention that "militia" meant fighting age males when the 2A was written.

Where you getting this armory idea from? Private possession of firearms has been the norm from the get-go, and the SCOTUS reaffirmed it in Heller. You're not going to get a different SCOTUS view, given its current construction, for at least another 20-30 years, and even then it would be a pretty seismic shift to say they have to be stored away in a 3rd party controlled location.

[UNI88]

I understand that perfectly and as I said above The militia has your arms waiting at the armory should you need them - not to mention that "militia" meant fighting age males when the 2A was written.

Where you getting this armory idea from? Private possession of firearms has been the norm from the get-go, and the SCOTUS reaffirmed it in Heller. You're not going to get a different SCOTUS view, given its current construction, for at least another 20-30 years, and even then it would be a pretty seismic shift to say they have to be stored away in a 3rd party controlled location.

My guess, Houndie's trying to put the focus on the "well regulated militia" and away from the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms" part of the 1A. A well regulated militia's arms could theoretically be kept at an armory.

[BDKJMU]

And millions of law abiding Americans rightfully would not comply to such an anti 2A, unconstitutional edict, that would be overturned by SCOTUS, if it even made it that far.

The BATF should be abolished. The US existed for close to 200 years before the BATF was established in 1972. And we had semi autos capable of handling more than 5 rounds for nearly a century before the BATF existed, with less mass shootings. Shootings INCREASED AFTER the BATF was created, and after they started background checks in the 80s. That tells you how worthless the BATF is.

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a govt agency.

Edit: And your proposal would be 100% impractical even of it weren’t unconstitutional.

Nothing anti-2A about it - it prevents nobody from owning one. Nothing impractical either, stroke of a pen.

The militia will have one waiting for you at the armory if you need one.

Best way to get them banned would be to start showing pictures of what the AR did at Uvalde, et. al.

Even if it somehow passed Congress (not a single conk and some donks) wouldn’t ever vote for it, and somehow passed Constitutional muster (it wouldn’t) it would be 100% impractical to implement.

Because if anything that held or was capable of holding a magazine that held more than 5 rounds became NFA Class III, currently would go from probably a fraction of 1% of firearms in private possession as Class III (currently only full auto, SBRs, short barrelled shotguns) to 80%-90% of all privately owmed firearms . Virtually all handguns and MSRs, a lot of semi auto shotguns, and most WWII era military surps hold more than 5 rounds. Basically almost everything other than bolt actions, some shot guns, older milsurps, and muzzle loader. Basically 350-400 million firearms (out of an estimated 450 million) Upwards of 100 million gun owners would all of a sudden need a Class 3 FFL/tax stamp (with accompaning application packet & $200 fee). The ATF maybe only processes a couple hundred thousand if that Class III FFLs a year. It would literally take not years, not decades, but centuries at current size and funding levels for the ATF to do what you’re proposing. In addition, the ATF can conduct warrantless annual compliance inspections of any Class III holders. Obviously that wouldn’t work if they had 100 times the firearms owners to inspect, nor would the ATF being allowed to conduct annual warrantless inspections of most firearms holders go over too well with the general public. And the $200 tax stamp wouldn’t come remotely close to covering covering the cost of this. Good luck trying to make the ATF 100x as big.

Another factor would be it would essentially add a $200 federal tax to most gun owners, with libs like you calling for the tax to be drastically increased, making them unaffordable for low income, and disproportionately minority people. Why do you hate poor and minorities?

[BDKJMU]

Where you getting this armory idea from? Private possession of firearms has been the norm from the get-go, and the SCOTUS reaffirmed it in Heller. You're not going to get a different SCOTUS view, given its current construction, for at least another 20-30 years, and even then it would be a pretty seismic shift to say they have to be stored away in a 3rd party controlled location.

My guess, Houndie's trying to put the focus on the "well regulated militia" and away from the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms" part of the 1A. A well regulated militia's arms could theoretically be kept at an armory.

Well regulated means proficient in marksmanship in 18th lingo.

“ the right of the people to KEEP and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” puts the kaboosh on Densedawg’s loony armory idea.

[GannonFan]

Thankfully for the bird-watching community, bird species currently with names that refer to people will now be renamed so that some birds don't carry on names from unpleasant or undesirable people from the past. Bird watching is finally safe for everyone!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67298103

[BDKJMU]

Spoken like a typical leftist who doesn’t understand 2A has zero to do with hunting. That’s ok, I’m here to enlighten on such matters.

I understand that perfectly and as I said above The militia has your arms waiting at the armory should you need them - not to mention that "militia" meant fighting age males when the 2A was written.

It meant fighting age white males. So you don’t want women and minorities to have access to firearms.

Like has been said on here multiple times to all the teeth gnashing from the left over firearms: Amend the Constitution or STFU.

[BDKJMU]

Wrong thread.

[BDKJMU]

Wrong thread

[BDKJMU]

Wrong thread.

[houndawg]

I understand that perfectly and as I said above The militia has your arms waiting at the armory should you need them - not to mention that "militia" meant fighting age males when the 2A was written.

Where you getting this armory idea from? Private possession of firearms has been the norm from the get-go, and the SCOTUS reaffirmed it in Heller. You're not going to get a different SCOTUS view, given its current construction, for at least another 20-30 years, and even then it would be a pretty seismic shift to say they have to be stored away in a 3rd party controlled location.

An armory is part of a well regulated militia. The national Guard has armories all over the nation

Private posession of firearms isn't being disputed. Privately posessed firearms are no longer used by our militia.

[houndawg]

I understand that perfectly and as I said above The militia has your arms waiting at the armory should you need them - not to mention that "militia" meant fighting age males when the 2A was written.

It meant fighting age white males. So you don’t want women and minorities to have access to firearms.

Like has been said on here multiple times to all the teeth gnashing from the left over firearms: Amend the Constitution or STFU.

Nonsense, you're just deflecting.

[kalm]

Thankfully for the bird-watching community, bird species currently with names that refer to people will now be renamed so that some birds don't carry on names from unpleasant or undesirable people from the past. Bird watching is finally safe for everyone!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67298103

Meh…it seems like a thoughtful and welcome change for the birding community. It’s also more scientifically accurate.

The impacts will be both minor and major, but only positive, he says: birders are used to bird names changing. That’s because it happens fairly often, either because the old name was inappropriate (oldsquaw became long-tailed duck) or, more often, because science improves our understanding of certain species, and split one species into several, which is what happened when the sooty grouse became dusky grouse and blue grouse; or the western scrub-jay split into the California scrub-jay and Woodhouse’s scrub-jay. “Birders have to and do absorb these changes.”

But while birders are used to some names changing, this announcement brings a reconsideration on a scale unknown until now. “Bird names are meaningless – they’re just codes that we all agree on to describe something – but until now the power to decide those names was held by only a few white men hundreds of years ago,” said Lund.

This means there’s a huge opportunity to figure out what names actually make sense for birds living today. “We can, for the first time, take a fresh look at what these birds should be called – what makes them unique or most easily separates them from other species. Never before have modern people been given the opportunity to debate this,” he said. “It’ll be a blast. We’ll get to look at these birds with fresh eyes, and it’ll certainly inspire us to think of these birds in new, fresh ways, and may ultimately work to raise interest and awareness.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... al-society

[SeattleGriz]

Justice served. Santos remains to fulfill his duty to his constituents.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... rcna122521

After he loses his re-election and is no longer a member of Congress we'll extradite him to Brasil. Two of my bandmates are from Brazil; they don't like his chances if he's sent back.

KPop?

[houndawg]

After he loses his re-election and is no longer a member of Congress we'll extradite him to Brasil. Two of my bandmates are from Brazil; they don't like his chances if he's sent back.

KPop?

Thats more your generation.

[GannonFan]

Where you getting this armory idea from? Private possession of firearms has been the norm from the get-go, and the SCOTUS reaffirmed it in Heller. You're not going to get a different SCOTUS view, given its current construction, for at least another 20-30 years, and even then it would be a pretty seismic shift to say they have to be stored away in a 3rd party controlled location.

An armory is part of a well regulated militia. The national Guard has armories all over the nation

Private posession of firearms isn't being disputed. Privately posessed firearms are no longer used by our militia.

They had armories back when they wrote the Constitution, yet they also had weapons kept in people's houses too.

[houndawg]

An armory is part of a well regulated militia. The national Guard has armories all over the nation

Private posession of firearms isn't being disputed. Privately posessed firearms are no longer used by our militia.

They had armories back when they wrote the Constitution, yet they also had weapons kept in people's houses too.

The well-regulated militia no longer uses muskets. The game has evolved

[UNI88]

They had armories back when they wrote the Constitution, yet they also had weapons kept in people's houses too.

The well-regulated militia no longer uses muskets. The game has evolved

You're nitpicking on this one is at a BDKKKaren super expert level. Congratulations!

[houndawg]

The well-regulated militia no longer uses muskets. The game has evolved

You're nitpicking on this one is at a BDKKKaren super expert level. Congratulations!

I'm here to help.

[GannonFan]

They had armories back when they wrote the Constitution, yet they also had weapons kept in people's houses too.

The well-regulated militia no longer uses muskets. The game has evolved

Not to echo the arch-conservatives on here regarding this, but on this one they have a decent point. If the game has evolved, then evolve the Constitution. It even has a method of how to evolve the Constitution built right into it - amend it.

[houndawg]

The well-regulated militia no longer uses muskets. The game has evolved

Not to echo the arch-conservatives on here regarding this, but on this one they have a decent point. If the game has evolved, then evolve the Constitution. It even has a method of how to evolve the Constitution built right into it - amend it.

Their point has nothing to do with what I'm talking about - there are already higher bars to clear to own fully automatic weapons. I'm saying that high capacity semi-auto weapons should be moved into that classification. Not bolt or lever action rifles, not revolvers, not shotguns... you all keep avoiding the actual point