Culture Wars

[Caribbean Hen]

Not the Onion or Babylon Bee..

Tampons and sanitary napkins are now available in men’s bathrooms at the Canadian Parliament under a new policy from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that requires all federally regulated employers — including airports and military bases — to offer free menstrual products in all washrooms, regardless of gender noted on the door.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tamp ... bathrooms/

[UNI88]

Trump hits Ohio governor over veto on proposed gender-affirming health care ban

Is he referring to just puberty blockers and genital mutilation treatments, or is he including lesser treatments of minors in that statement that wouldn’t be banned by the bill?

How many/what % of those children who get irreversible puberty blockers and gender mutilation later regret it and kill themselves, who would otherwise be alive today? Yeah, I know, this is only a recent thing with children so probably not enough data to say.

And he also vetoed probibiting mem from playing womens’ sports. You’re either for womens’ sports, or you’re for allowing mem to play womens’ sports. You can’t be both.

Apparently this bill passed with a. eto proof majority, so we’ll see if Deeine’s veto gets overridden.

Moving this to the Culture Wars thread where it belongs.

It is too early to know for sure which approach will cause the most harm. Mistakes will be made with gender-affirming care but in my opinion, banning treatment will cause more damage than will be made if those decisions are left to parents and medical professionals. There are individuals who need that care including puberty blockers and/or surgery and as I've stated, I trust parents and medical professionals to make those decisions more than I do politicians and bureaucrats.

This isn't just about the Ohio bill, it's about a concerted effort to ban gender-affirming care to the greatest extent possible and wherever possible. The American Taliban wants to keep the focus on the most extreme examples of gender-affirming care to help convince the public and demonstrate their righteousness rather than on their efforts to marginalize, exclude, and punish anyone who doesn't fit their standards. Delaying care until after a child turns 18 when it will usually be too late is intentional.

It's a complicated issue but I'm against transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth from playing on sports teams designated for women.

The party of life and parents rights only cares about life until birth and parents rights when convenient.

[BDKJMU]

Is he referring to just puberty blockers and genital mutilation treatments, or is he including lesser treatments of minors in that statement that wouldn’t be banned by the bill?

How many/what % of those children who get irreversible puberty blockers and gender mutilation later regret it and kill themselves, who would otherwise be alive today? Yeah, I know, this is only a recent thing with children so probably not enough data to say.

And he also vetoed probibiting mem from playing womens’ sports. You’re either for womens’ sports, or you’re for allowing mem to play womens’ sports. You can’t be both.

Apparently this bill passed with a. eto proof majority, so we’ll see if Deeine’s veto gets overridden.

Moving this to the Culture Wars thread where it belongs.

It is too early to know for sure which approach will cause the most harm. Mistakes will be made with gender-affirming care but in my opinion, banning treatment will cause more damage than will be made if those decisions are left to parents and medical professionals. There are individuals who need that care including puberty blockers and/or surgery and as I've stated, I trust parents and medical professionals to make those decisions more than I do politicians and bureaucrats.

This isn't just about the Ohio bill, it's about a concerted effort to ban gender-affirming care to the greatest extent possible and wherever possible. The American Taliban wants to keep the focus on the most extreme examples of gender-affirming care to help convince the public and demonstrate their righteousness rather than on their efforts to marginalize, exclude, and punish anyone who doesn't fit their standards. Delaying care until after a child turns 18 when it will usually be too late is intentional.

It's a complicated issue but I'm against transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth from playing on sports teams designated for women.

The party of life and parents rights only cares about life until birth and parents rights when convenient.

Not facilitating their mental illness by giving them puberty blockers or performing gender mutilation until they’re 18 isn’t too late, and of course its intentional.

Lol you took a mouthful to simply say ‘men’. Glad to see you aren’t for men playing womens’ sports. And no, its not a complicated issue at all.

[UNI88]

Moving this to the Culture Wars thread where it belongs.

It is too early to know for sure which approach will cause the most harm. Mistakes will be made with gender-affirming care but in my opinion, banning treatment will cause more damage than will be made if those decisions are left to parents and medical professionals. There are individuals who need that care including puberty blockers and/or surgery and as I've stated, I trust parents and medical professionals to make those decisions more than I do politicians and bureaucrats.

This isn't just about the Ohio bill, it's about a concerted effort to ban gender-affirming care to the greatest extent possible and wherever possible. The American Taliban wants to keep the focus on the most extreme examples of gender-affirming care to help convince the public and demonstrate their righteousness rather than on their efforts to marginalize, exclude, and punish anyone who doesn't fit their standards. Delaying care until after a child turns 18 when it will usually be too late is intentional.

It's a complicated issue but I'm against transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth from playing on sports teams designated for women.

The party of life and parents' rights only cares about life until birth and parents' rights when convenient.

Not facilitating their mental illness by giving them puberty blockers or performing gender mutilation until they’re 18 isn’t too late, and of course its intentional.

Lol you took a mouthful to simply say ‘men’. Glad to see you aren’t for men playing womens’ sports. And no, its not a complicated issue at all.

People wanting to be who they are rather than who some stick-up their-ass puritans want to force them to be isn't a mental illness.

Mental illness is complaining about the woke left and then one-upping them in attempting to force your moral standards on everyone. Mental illness is being a narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic grifter. Mental illness is gullibly believing that narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic grifter when he says an election was stolen, that he's the innocent victim of a witch hunt, etc.

Transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth wanting to play women's sports is a complicated issue because many of those athletes have been through a lot and I want to be sensitive to those issues and the impact on their mental health. Unlike MAGAt yahoos, I try to care about peoples' well-being throughout their life not just from conception to birth.

[houndawg]

Is he referring to just puberty blockers and genital mutilation treatments, or is he including lesser treatments of minors in that statement that wouldn’t be banned by the bill?

How many/what % of those children who get irreversible puberty blockers and gender mutilation later regret it and kill themselves, who would otherwise be alive today? Yeah, I know, this is only a recent thing with children so probably not enough data to say.

And he also vetoed probibiting mem from playing womens’ sports. You’re either for womens’ sports, or you’re for allowing mem to play womens’ sports. You can’t be both.

Apparently this bill passed with a. eto proof majority, so we’ll see if Deeine’s veto gets overridden.

Moving this to the Culture Wars thread where it belongs.

It is too early to know for sure which approach will cause the most harm. Mistakes will be made with gender-affirming care but in my opinion, banning treatment will cause more damage than will be made if those decisions are left to parents and medical professionals. There are individuals who need that care including puberty blockers and/or surgery and as I've stated, I trust parents and medical professionals to make those decisions more than I do politicians and bureaucrats.

This isn't just about the Ohio bill, it's about a concerted effort to ban gender-affirming care to the greatest extent possible and wherever possible. The American Taliban wants to keep the focus on the most extreme examples of gender-affirming care to help convince the public and demonstrate their righteousness rather than on their efforts to marginalize, exclude, and punish anyone who doesn't fit their standards. Delaying care until after a child turns 18 when it will usually be too late is intentional.

It's a complicated issue but I'm against transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth from playing on sports teams designated for women.

The party of life and parents rights only cares about life until birth and parents rights when convenient.

Any real athlete would be embarrassed to compete thusly

[houndawg]

Is he referring to just puberty blockers and genital mutilation treatments, or is he including lesser treatments of minors in that statement that wouldn’t be banned by the bill?

How many/what % of those children who get irreversible puberty blockers and gender mutilation later regret it and kill themselves, who would otherwise be alive today? Yeah, I know, this is only a recent thing with children so probably not enough data to say.

And he also vetoed probibiting mem from playing womens’ sports. You’re either for womens’ sports, or you’re for allowing mem to play womens’ sports. You can’t be both.

Apparently this bill passed with a. eto proof majority, so we’ll see if Deeine’s veto gets overridden.

Moving this to the Culture Wars thread where it belongs.

It is too early to know for sure which approach will cause the most harm. Mistakes will be made with gender-affirming care but in my opinion, banning treatment will cause more damage than will be made if those decisions are left to parents and medical professionals. There are individuals who need that care including puberty blockers and/or surgery and as I've stated, I trust parents and medical professionals to make those decisions more than I do politicians and bureaucrats.

This isn't just about the Ohio bill, it's about a concerted effort to ban gender-affirming care to the greatest extent possible and wherever possible. The American Taliban wants to keep the focus on the most extreme examples of gender-affirming care to help convince the public and demonstrate their righteousness rather than on their efforts to marginalize, exclude, and punish anyone who doesn't fit their standards. Delaying care until after a child turns 18 when it will usually be too late is intentional.

It's a complicated issue but I'm against transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth from playing on sports teams designated for women.

The party of life and parents rights only cares about life until birth and parents rights when convenient.

Any real athlete would be embarrassed to compete thusly

[BDKJMU]

Not facilitating their mental illness by giving them puberty blockers or performing gender mutilation until they’re 18 isn’t too late, and of course its intentional.

Lol you took a mouthful to simply say ‘men’. Glad to see you aren’t for men playing womens’ sports. And no, its not a complicated issue at all.

People wanting to be who they are rather than who some stick-up their-ass puritans want to force them to be isn't a mental illness.

Mental illness is complaining about the woke left and then one-upping them in attempting to force your moral standards on everyone. Mental illness is being a narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic grifter. Mental illness is gullibly believing that narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic grifter when he says an election was stolen, that he's the innocent victim of a witch hunt, etc.

Transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth wanting to play women's sports is a complicated issue because many of those athletes have been through a lot and I want to be sensitive to those issues and the impact on their mental health. Unlike MAGAt yahoos, I try to care about peoples' well-being throughout their life not just from conception to birth.

Lol people can’t be what they’re not. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to acknowledge reality and acknowledge the emperor has no clothes. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to say a guy dressed in womanface isn’t a woman any more than it would be to say say a white person dressed in blackface isn’t black

And no lol the issue of men playing womens’ sports is SIMPLE. Its the left that’s trying to make it a complicated issue.

[UNI88]

People wanting to be who they are rather than who some stick-up their-ass puritans want to force them to be isn't a mental illness.

Mental illness is complaining about the woke left and then one-upping them in attempting to force your moral standards on everyone. Mental illness is being a narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic grifter. Mental illness is gullibly believing that narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic grifter when he says an election was stolen, that he's the innocent victim of a witch hunt, etc.

Transgender athletes who weren’t assigned female at birth wanting to play women's sports is a complicated issue because many of those athletes have been through a lot and I want to be sensitive to those issues and the impact on their mental health. Unlike MAGAt yahoos, I try to care about peoples' well-being throughout their life not just from conception to birth.

Lol people can’t be what they’re not. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to acknowledge reality and acknowledge the emperor has no clothes. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to say a guy dressed in womanface isn’t a woman any more than it would be to say say a white person dressed in blackface isn’t black

And no lol the issue of men playing womens’ sports is SIMPLE. Its the left that’s trying to make it a complicated issue.

The world isn't that black and white. LGBTQ+ people have been around for thousands of years but have mostly had to hide. There are just as natural as you or I.

You would rather attempt to force someone to fit your narrow stereotypes even if many of them will suffer from mental health issues and some will commit suicide as a result. People who are truly pro-life support LGBTQ+ because they care about all lives throughout their lives.

[kalm]

Lol people can’t be what they’re not. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to acknowledge reality and acknowledge the emperor has no clothes. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to say a guy dressed in womanface isn’t a woman any more than it would be to say say a white person dressed in blackface isn’t black

And no lol the issue of men playing womens’ sports is SIMPLE. Its the left that’s trying to make it a complicated issue.

The world isn't that black and white. LGBTQ+ people have been around for thousands of years but have mostly had to hide. There are just as natural as you or I.

You would rather attempt to force someone to fit your narrow stereotypes even if many of them will suffer from mental health issues and some will commit suicide as a result. People who are truly pro-life support LGBTQ+ because they care about all lives throughout their lives.

This world is full of people being what they’re not. For better or for worse. Intentionally or without realizing it.

[BDKJMU]

Lol people can’t be what they’re not. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to acknowledge reality and acknowledge the emperor has no clothes. Its not stick up your ass puritanism to say a guy dressed in womanface isn’t a woman any more than it would be to say say a white person dressed in blackface isn’t black

And no lol the issue of men playing womens’ sports is SIMPLE. Its the left that’s trying to make it a complicated issue.

The world isn't that black and white. LGBTQ+ people have been around for thousands of years but have mostly had to hide. There are just as natural as you or I.

You would rather attempt to force someone to fit your narrow stereotypes even if many of them will suffer from mental health issues and some will commit suicide as a result. People who are truly pro-life support LGBTQ+ because they care about all lives throughout their lives.

Lawl is that was the case men could get pregnant.

No. I don’t care what the mentally ill alphabet people do as adults, as long as they don’t bother me or negatively effect my life in some way.

[Caribbean Hen]

The world isn't that black and white. LGBTQ+ people have been around for thousands of years but have mostly had to hide. There are just as natural as you or I.

You would rather attempt to force someone to fit your narrow stereotypes even if many of them will suffer from mental health issues and some will commit suicide as a result. People who are truly pro-life support LGBTQ+ because they care about all lives throughout their lives.

Lawl is that was the case men could get pregnant.

No. I don’t care what the mentally ill alphabet people do as adults, as long as they don’t bother me or negatively effect my life in some way.

Let them have their own Transgender league but whatever they do keep those creeps out of the swimming pool …. Disgusting, no woman should have to share a locker room with these fruit loops

[kalm]

Virginia Fox is VERY concerned.

House Education Committee Chair Virginia Foxx, who infamously screamed, "Shut up!" at a reporter attempting to asked Speaker Johnson a question right after his election, just announced that she is launching an investigation into "wokeness" on college campuses.

"I very much believe that the campuses have been taken over by extremely liberal people, woke people, who have a very different worldview from the average person in this country. There has definitely been a takeover of the campuses by people who really do have an extremely biased set of values, and those are not the values of average Americans. So, I'm very concerned about that."

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/virgin ... e-campuses

[houndawg]

Virginia Fox is VERY concerned.

House Education Committee Chair Virginia Foxx, who infamously screamed, "Shut up!" at a reporter attempting to asked Speaker Johnson a question right after his election, just announced that she is launching an investigation into "wokeness" on college campuses.

"I very much believe that the campuses have been taken over by extremely liberal people, woke people, who have a very different worldview from the average person in this country. There has definitely been a takeover of the campuses by people who really do have an extremely biased set of values, and those are not the values of average Americans. So, I'm very concerned about that."

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/virgin ... e-campuses

Always seems to happen in places where the locals have more than the average education. I wonder if anbody notices

[UNI88]

Virginia Fox is VERY concerned.

House Education Committee Chair Virginia Foxx, who infamously screamed, "Shut up!" at a reporter attempting to asked Speaker Johnson a question right after his election, just announced that she is launching an investigation into "wokeness" on college campuses.

"I very much believe that the campuses have been taken over by extremely liberal people, woke people, who have a very different worldview from the average person in this country. There has definitely been a takeover of the campuses by people who really do have an extremely biased set of values, and those are not the values of average Americans. So, I'm very concerned about that."

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/virgin ... e-campuses

Change campuses to schools and liberal to conservative and you have education in florida, texas, etc.

[Caribbean Hen]

Virginia Fox is VERY concerned.

House Education Committee Chair Virginia Foxx, who infamously screamed, "Shut up!" at a reporter attempting to asked Speaker Johnson a question right after his election, just announced that she is launching an investigation into "wokeness" on college campuses.

"I very much believe that the campuses have been taken over by extremely liberal people, woke people, who have a very different worldview from the average person in this country. There has definitely been a takeover of the campuses by people who really do have an extremely biased set of values, and those are not the values of average Americans. So, I'm very concerned about that."

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/virgin ... e-campuses

Didn’t you already agree that what’s going on the hate farm campuses was a concern

[Caribbean Hen]

Virginia Fox is VERY concerned.



https://www.meidastouch.com/news/virgin ... e-campuses

Always seems to happen in places where the locals have more than the average indoctrination. I wonder if anbody notices

True

[kalm]

Virginia Fox is VERY concerned.



https://www.meidastouch.com/news/virgin ... e-campuses

Didn’t you already agree that what’s going on the hate farm campuses was a concern

Concern? Yes. But Foxx is not the person to address it. And “extremely liberal and woke people” have their upsides too.

[Caribbean Hen]

Didn’t you already agree that what’s going on the hate farm campuses was a concern

Concern? Yes. But Foxx is not the person to address it. And “extremely liberal and woke people” have their upsides too.

Biden should be the one to address it but he’s not going to do it

Don’t know anything about Foxx

[UNI88]

Concern? Yes. But Foxx is not the person to address it. And “extremely liberal and woke people” have their upsides too.

Biden should be the one to address it but he’s not going to do it

Don’t know anything about Foxx

Maybe biden has his hands full addressing the extremely conservative and zealous people attempting to indoctrinate students at hate farm elementary, middle and high schools?

[Caribbean Hen]

Biden should be the one to address it but he’s not going to do it

Don’t know anything about Foxx

Maybe biden has his hands full addressing the extremely conservative and zealous people attempting to indoctrinate students at hate farm elementary, middle and high schools?

Nah, Biden’s hands are as empty as his head

[UNI88]

Maybe biden has his hands full addressing the extremely conservative and zealous people attempting to indoctrinate students at hate farm elementary, middle and high schools?

Nah, Biden’s hands are as empty as his head

Are they as empty as trump's hands when he's spanking the monkey?

Who's going to address the extremely conservative and zealous people attempting to indoctrinate students at hate farm elementary, middle and high schools? They're just as dangerous as the extremely liberal and woke people.

[BDKJMU]

Trump hits Ohio governor over veto on proposed gender-affirming health care ban

“These are truly complex issues, and reasonable people draw vastly different conclusions,” DeWine said during a press conference on Friday. “This bill would impact a very small number of Ohio’s children, but for those children who face gender dysphoria, and for their families, the consequences of this could not be more profound.”

“Ultimately, I believe this is about protecting human life,” DeWine added. “Many parents have told me that their child would not have survived — would be dead today — if they had not received the treatment they received from one of Ohio’s children’s hospitals.”

Thoughtful, rational leadership. This guy gets it.

Veto overriden by Ohio legislature. Ohio becomes the 24th state (mas or menos) to ban genital mutilation & puberty blockers for children and banning boys playing girls’ sports in secondary schools..

[UNI88]

Trump hits Ohio governor over veto on proposed gender-affirming health care ban

Thoughtful, rational leadership. This guy gets it.

Veto overriden by Ohio legislature. Ohio becomes the 24th state (mas or menos) to ban genital mutilation & puberty blockers for children and banning boys playing girls’ sports in secondary schools..

It also restricts mental health care for transgender individuals under 18. If these people are "mentally ill" don't they need mental health care? This is about forcing an ideology on people who disagree with them more than protecting lives or health.

The zealous right is no better than the woke left.

[kalm]

Veto overriden by Ohio legislature. Ohio becomes the 24th state (mas or menos) to ban genital mutilation & puberty blockers for children and banning boys playing girls’ sports in secondary schools..

It also restricts mental health care for transgender individuals under 18. If these people are "mentally ill" don't they need mental health care? This is about forcing an ideology on people who disagree with them more than protecting lives or health.

The zealous right is no better than the woke left.

Not to mention big government knows more than parents do regarding their child’s health.

[BDKJMU]

It also restricts mental health care for transgender individuals under 18. If these people are "mentally ill" don't they need mental health care? This is about forcing an ideology on people who disagree with them more than protecting lives or health.

The zealous right is no better than the woke left.

Not to mention big government knows more than parents do regarding their child’s health.

Glad you agree then that govt has no say any aspects of a child’s health care or treatment, to include vaccines, or how a parent chooses to disipline.