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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:50 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:55 pm

Great reasoning. That's like saying tax loophole, when it's the law.

Kushner was legal and transparent. Your President and his son's actions were not.
So codified law is always right? :lol:

How was Kushner transparent? Have Hunter and Joe been convicted? Especially regarding Ukraine? :suspicious:
It was transparent because it was legal. Wasn't it out in the media almost immediately?

It's very similar to the Clinton's and their CGI. I don't like them, but CGI was set up legally and the donations are pretty easy to find out about.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:56 am
houndawg wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:39 am

...and it looks like I called it once again - Trump was too busy lining his pockets to make an attempt at governance. :coffee:

Given that some of the missing classified documents haven't yet been found four years later I think that we all know why the Chinese, at least, and who knows who else, gave him $8,000,000. And of course the Saudis giving a few billion to Kushner had nothing to do with Kushner being his son-in-law...you don't even believe that bullshit yourself :lol:
Oh, so you know what documents are missing? :lol:

Once again, as I've already informed you, what was the Saudi money invested in? Israeli businesses. What better person than Kushner as he worked on the Abraham accords.

It's hilarious how badly you, Klam and UNI want Trump to be guilty of something, but ignore it when it's right in front of your faces with the politicians you support. :ohno:
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:56 am
houndawg wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:39 am

...and it looks like I called it once again - Trump was too busy lining his pockets to make an attempt at governance. :coffee:

Given that some of the missing classified documents haven't yet been found four years later I think that we all know why the Chinese, at least, and who knows who else, gave him $8,000,000. And of course the Saudis giving a few billion to Kushner had nothing to do with Kushner being his son-in-law...you don't even believe that bullshit yourself :lol:
Oh, so you know what documents are missing? :lol:

Once again, as I've already informed you, what was the Saudi money invested in? Israeli businesses. What better person than Kushner as he worked on the Abraham accords.

It's hilarious how badly you, Klam and UNI want Trump to be guilty of something, but ignore it when it's right in front of your faces with the politicians you support. :ohno:
I'm fine with prosecuting Hunter Biden - he's not my kind of politician - but in the US we only do that after we have evidence that he did something wrong. Tell us about your evidence, son. We're all ears.
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Hunter is being prosecuted and he’s not technically a politician, although he advises his Dunce King Daddy

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“Two brave IRS whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, placed their careers on the line to blow the whistle on misconduct and politicization in the Hunter Biden criminal investigation. The Department of Justice got caught in its attempt to give Hunter Biden an unprecedented sweetheart plea deal and today’s charges filed against Hunter Biden are the result of Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler’s efforts to ensure all Americans are treated equally under the law. Every American should applaud these men for their courage to expose the truth.

“IRS whistleblowers also revealed investigators were prevented from following evidence that could have led to Joe Biden. The House Oversight Committee’s investigation of the Bidens’ influence peddling schemes reveals how Joe Biden knew about, participated in, and benefitted from his family cashing in on the Biden name. In fact, Hunter Biden’s corporate entities implicated by today’s indictments funneled foreign cash that landed in Joe Biden’s bank account. Unless U.S. Attorney Weiss investigates everyone involved in the Bidens’ fraud schemes and influence peddling, it will be clear President Biden’s DOJ is protecting Hunter Biden and the big guy.”
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:50 am Hunter is being prosecuted and he’s not technically a politician, although he advises his Dunce King Daddy

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“Two brave IRS whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, placed their careers on the line to blow the whistle on misconduct and politicization in the Hunter Biden criminal investigation. The Department of Justice got caught in its attempt to give Hunter Biden an unprecedented sweetheart plea deal and today’s charges filed against Hunter Biden are the result of Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler’s efforts to ensure all Americans are treated equally under the law. Every American should applaud these men for their courage to expose the truth.

“IRS whistleblowers also revealed investigators were prevented from following evidence that could have led to Joe Biden. The House Oversight Committee’s investigation of the Bidens’ influence peddling schemes reveals how Joe Biden knew about, participated in, and benefitted from his family cashing in on the Biden name. In fact, Hunter Biden’s corporate entities implicated by today’s indictments funneled foreign cash that landed in Joe Biden’s bank account. Unless U.S. Attorney Weiss investigates everyone involved in the Bidens’ fraud schemes and influence peddling, it will be clear President Biden’s DOJ is protecting Hunter Biden and the big guy.”
CH, it’s customary here to provide a link to the article you are posting.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:05 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:50 am Hunter is being prosecuted and he’s not technically a politician, although he advises his Dunce King Daddy

return:

“Two brave IRS whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, placed their careers on the line to blow the whistle on misconduct and politicization in the Hunter Biden criminal investigation. The Department of Justice got caught in its attempt to give Hunter Biden an unprecedented sweetheart plea deal and today’s charges filed against Hunter Biden are the result of Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler’s efforts to ensure all Americans are treated equally under the law. Every American should applaud these men for their courage to expose the truth.

“IRS whistleblowers also revealed investigators were prevented from following evidence that could have led to Joe Biden. The House Oversight Committee’s investigation of the Bidens’ influence peddling schemes reveals how Joe Biden knew about, participated in, and benefitted from his family cashing in on the Biden name. In fact, Hunter Biden’s corporate entities implicated by today’s indictments funneled foreign cash that landed in Joe Biden’s bank account. Unless U.S. Attorney Weiss investigates everyone involved in the Bidens’ fraud schemes and influence peddling, it will be clear President Biden’s DOJ is protecting Hunter Biden and the big guy.”
CH, it’s customary here to provide a link to the article you are posting.
I know but I didn’t come here to follow the rules
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:50 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:05 am

CH, it’s customary here to provide a link to the article you are posting.
I know but I didn’t come here to follow the rules
So you’d prefer to make arguments in bad faith. Got it.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:01 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:50 am

I know but I didn’t come here to follow the rules
So you’d prefer to make arguments in bad faith. Got it.
No, he prefers to not waste his time as it's common knowledge the first thing you will do is levy an ad hominem against the author of the article and then follow it up with another ad hominem on the org that published the article, while refusing to address any of the substance. You'll argue that 2+2 does not equal 4.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:12 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:01 am

So you’d prefer to make arguments in bad faith. Got it.
No, he prefers to not waste his time as it's common knowledge the first thing you will do is levy an ad hominem against the author of the article and then follow it up with another ad hominem on the org that published the article, while refusing to address any of the substance. You'll argue that 2+2 does not equal 4.
Just looking for context within the article he posted. An ad hominem would be attacking CH rather than the article excerpt he’s posting.

Sorry you’re so confused.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:01 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:50 am

I know but I didn’t come here to follow the rules
So you’d prefer to make arguments in bad faith. Got it.
He's a man of faith. Someday they'll find something.....no like that awful Benghazi investigation with year after year of nothing and Hillary sitting in front of Congress and laughing in Trey Gowdy's face...no sir, this time its gonna be different
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:21 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:12 am

No, he prefers to not waste his time as it's common knowledge the first thing you will do is levy an ad hominem against the author of the article and then follow it up with another ad hominem on the org that published the article, while refusing to address any of the substance. You'll argue that 2+2 does not equal 4.
Just looking for context within the article he posted. An ad hominem would be attacking CH rather than the article excerpt he’s posting.

Sorry you’re so confused.
No, I'm sorry you're confused and don't understand.
Essentially, any argument that targets the source of an opposing argument, rather than addressing the opposing argument itself, is an ad hominem argument, regardless of its exact structure. Some of these arguments are almost always fallacious, while others can be reasonable, depending on how they're used.
https://effectiviology.com/ad-hominem-f ... 're%20used.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:21 am

Just looking for context within the article he posted. An ad hominem would be attacking CH rather than the article excerpt he’s posting.

Sorry you’re so confused.
No, I'm sorry you're confused and don't understand.
Essentially, any argument that targets the source of an opposing argument, rather than addressing the opposing argument itself, is an ad hominem argument, regardless of its exact structure. Some of these arguments are almost always fallacious, while others can be reasonable, depending on how they're used.
https://effectiviology.com/ad-hominem-f ... 're%20used.
Ad Hominem

(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument
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https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resourc ... 20argument.

Me asking CH for a link is not an ad hominem attack.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:12 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:01 am

So you’d prefer to make arguments in bad faith. Got it.
No, he prefers to not waste his time as it's common knowledge the first thing you will do is levy an ad hominem against the author of the article and then follow it up with another ad hominem on the org that published the article, while refusing to address any of the substance. You'll argue that 2+2 does not equal 4.
Here's the ad hominem right here, and he wasn't even talking to you.

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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:09 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:12 am

No, he prefers to not waste his time as it's common knowledge the first thing you will do is levy an ad hominem against the author of the article and then follow it up with another ad hominem on the org that published the article, while refusing to address any of the substance. You'll argue that 2+2 does not equal 4.
Here's the ad hominem right here, and he wasn't even talking to you.

Have you ever thought of running for President of something like an HOA? SeattleKaren :ohno:
:lol:

He does have a strong HOA pres. vibe.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote:
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:21 am Just looking for context within the article he posted. An ad hominem would be attacking CH rather than the article excerpt he’s posting.

Sorry you’re so confused.
No, I'm sorry you're confused and don't understand.
Essentially, any argument that targets the source of an opposing argument, rather than addressing the opposing argument itself, is an ad hominem argument, regardless of its exact structure. Some of these arguments are almost always fallacious, while others can be reasonable, depending on how they're used.
https://effectiviology.com/ad-hominem-f ... 're%20used.
So attacking the MSM and calling anything they publish that you don’t like fake news.


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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:39 am

No, I'm sorry you're confused and don't understand.



https://effectiviology.com/ad-hominem-f ... 're%20used.
Ad Hominem

(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument
.

https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resourc ... 20argument.

Me asking CH for a link is not an ad hominem attack.
I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 am

.

https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resourc ... 20argument.

Me asking CH for a link is not an ad hominem attack.
I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
your usual ad hominem response :coffee:

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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:59 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm

I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
your usual ad hominem response :coffee:

:mrgreen:
Well yer Stoopid, so what you say doesn't matter. :lol:
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 am

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https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resourc ... 20argument.

Me asking CH for a link is not an ad hominem attack.
I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
So your premise is based on imaginary ad hominem attacks.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:00 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:59 pm

your usual ad hominem response :coffee:

:mrgreen:
Well yer Stoopid, so what you say doesn't matter. :lol:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:00 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:59 pm

your usual ad hominem response :coffee:

:mrgreen:
Well yer Stoopid, so what you say doesn't matter. :lol:
neener neener
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 am

.

https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resourc ... 20argument.

Me asking CH for a link is not an ad hominem attack.
I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:10 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm

I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
Bingo
Rather than wasting our time with untrustworthy sources you’re afraid to link to?

Critical thinking is your friend.

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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 am

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https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resourc ... 20argument.

Me asking CH for a link is not an ad hominem attack.
I didn't say that. I said you would waste his time by attacking his source...like you do all the time.
.......from the man Trump called "the most powerful man in America":..."this is your legacy and there's smoke coming out of the Capitol."

Nowthat's an ad hominem, especially from your closest advisor... :shock:
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Re: Team Trump v/s Everyone

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kalm wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:34 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:10 am

Bingo
Rather than wasting our time with untrustworthy sources you’re afraid to link to?

Critical thinking is your friend.

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You could find it if you wanted too

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